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If a teacher is not enlightened, does it affect the student?

A teacher's enlightenment matters only if the student seeks validation; true connection transcends labels and dissolves the ego.

— Osho
According to Osho, whether a teacher is unenlightened affects the student only according to the student's motive. If you relate in love and presence, labels do not matter; the real work is ego dissolution; no one can be enlightened, nirvana is no-self. But if you seek out of greed for status or guarantees, doubt will collapse the relationship.

If you learn with love, the teacher’s title doesn’t matter; if you chase promises, doubt stops your learning.

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Come Come Yet Again Come · Discourse 7
1980-11-02 · Buddha Hall · English

Beloved Osho, is it possible that you are not enlightened? If it is the case, would that make any difference for me?

If you become absolutely certain that I am not enlightened, then your relationship with me is finished. Then you will start searching for somebody else who is enlightened; then you have to move to some other master. You will be caught by someone who brags, by someone who has a very subtle spiritual ego, who claims, who tries to prove his enlightenment through the scriptures or through miracles or through some other things. You need to be convinced that you are with the right person. The greedy person asks for proofs; love never asks for any proofs. The people who were with Jesus were very greedy. They were all Jews -- obviously they could not have been otherwise. They were continuously asking him, "Are you really the son of God -- REALLY?" In their question there is suspicion, doubt. They want Jesus to do miracles -- walk on water, raise…
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From Unconciousness To Consciousness · Discourse 20
1984-11-18 · Lao Tzu Grove · English
Question: BELOVED OSHO, ARE YOU THE WORLD TEACHER? All these religions up to now have been simply working on these brain centers unknowingly, putting ideas at certain centers in your mind through exercises, disciplines, fasting. Yoga is nothing but changing your body chemistry and making it possible that you start controlling your mind centers. That's why a yogi can remain without food as long as he wants. It is that he is not hungry. He simply goes on pressing, through a certain discipline that he has learned -- you may not be aware of it, the discipline is such. He knows the posture in which to sit, and then in that posture hunger cannot happen. In that posture a particular brain center is pressed and you feel as if you have just eaten. He can remain without water for days. He can remain without breathing.
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Ecstasy The Forgotten Language · Discourse 10
1976-12-20 · Buddha Hall · English

Are you the only enlightened person in this ashram? If yes, is it impossible to enlighten or to be enlightened near an enlightened person?

SINCE I BECAME ENLIGHTENED I have never come across a person who is not enlightened. You see only that which you are. Before I became enlightened, the same was the case with me -- the whole world used to appear tremendously asleep, in darkness, in death, unenlightened, because you are reflected continuously everywhere. Every other person is just a mirror; you see yourself. So don't be worried about others; think about yourself. That should be your problem. Others are not your problems. Whether they are enlightened or not, how does it concern you? Why should you be worried about it? If somebody wants to remain unenlightened, it is absolutely his business to decide about it. If they want to play the game of being unenlightened, it's perfectly okay. If you have become fed up with the world, if you are fed up with your anguish and anxiety and you have…
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The Beloved Vol 1 · Discourse 4
1976-06-24 · Buddha Hall · English

It is said that unless one is in contact with one who is awakened, it is impossible to come out of one's ignorance or deep sleep. How to find out that one is awakened?

And the same happens with the follower of Krishna. He knows the flute, singing, dancing. He cannot believe for what Jesus was on the cross. If you ask him he will say, "He must have done some very wrong deeds in his past life. Otherwise, how is he crucified? Crucifixion happens only to great sinners. He must have done something great, a very great sin. That is why he is suffering -- because no Hindu AVATAR has ever suffered like this. This is not possible." Hindus have the theory of KARMA; whatsoever happens is your karma: Krishna is playing on the flute because he has beautiful KARMAS which sing in him, and Jesus must have been a sinner. It is not a question that others have forced him on the cross. Nobody can force anybody except your KARMAS. It is not that Judas has betrayed him; it is his own…
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I Am That · Discourse 1
1980-10-11 · Buddha Hall · English
Question: AUM THAT IS THE WHOLE. THIS IS THE WHOLE. FROM WHOLENESS EMERGES WHOLENESS. WHOLENESS COMING FROM WHOLENESS, WHOLENESS STILL REMAINS. AT THE HEART OF THIS PHENOMENAL WORLD, WITHIN ALL ITS CHANGING FORMS, DWELLS THE UNCHANGING LORD. SO, GO BEYOND THE CHANGING, AND, ENJOYING THE INNER, CEASE TO TAKE FOR YOURSELF WHAT TO OTHERS ARE RICHES. CONTINUING TO ACT IN THE WORLD, ONE MAY ASPIRE TO BE ONE HUNDRED. THUS, AND ONLY THUS, CAN A MAN BE FREE FROM THE BINDING INFLUENCE OF ACTION. UNILLUMINED INDEED ARE THOSE WORLDS CLOUDED BY THE BLINDING DARKNESS OF IGNORANCE. INTO THIS DEATH SINK ALL THOSE WHO SLAY THE SELF. AUM PURNAMADAH PURNAMIDAM PURNAT PURNAMUDACHYATE PURNASYA PURNAMADAYA PURNAMEVA VASHISHYATE. What Carl Gustav Jung calls synchronicity explains exactly what happens between a Master and a disciple. It is not the same as what happens between a teacher and a student.
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