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Did he achieve wholeness immediately?

Wholeness can be immediate, for truth exists in the here and now; yet the path to it depends on your inner nature—embrace your unique journey, for neither effort nor ease is superior.

— Osho
According to Osho, wholeness can be immediate because truth is here-now, but whether he achieved it at once depends on his inner type: a Krishna-like temperament accepts effortless realization; a Mahavira-like temperament attains through toil. Neither way is higher; alignment with one’s nature is decisive.

Truth is already here; some people realize it right away by relaxing, while others reach it by working hard—both are fine.

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Questioner: did he come to wholeness straightaway?

To us it seems difficult to understand how one can come straightaway to wholeness. We think one must pass through a criss-crossing of roads before he arrives. Again, this is the same question that pilgrims asked of the Zen monk Lying near a cave. The monk says he does not have to do a thing, because he is already there where one should be. The pilgrims wonder how one could arrive without traveling, it seems impossible. They all had to walk long distances before they reached the place of pilgrimage, but the sage says to them, "If you cannot attain to truth right here, how can you attain to it by going to the mountain top? Truth is everywhere. It is here and now. This is not something that one needs any traveling to arrive at." But there are some types who cannot arrive without making a long journey. Even…

Osho, there seems to be another contradiction. You have said that Krishna is accomplished from birth and Mahavira is a seeker. Yet in the Kashmir camp you said about Mahavira that he had completed all his practice in previous lives. In this life he had nothing to practice, only to express. Then Mahavira too was accomplished from birth and was like Krishna.

No, I did not say that. I only said that whatever Mahavira became, he became through becoming—through practice. Whether he practiced in the last life or the one before that makes no difference. Whatever he is, he is through sadhana. Before his state of perfection there is a journey of practice. Krishna, in no life, ever practiced. Straightaway complete? We find that difficult. We find it difficult that one could be complete straightaway. We feel one can become perfect only by walking in zigzags. We feel… It is the same question as with that fakir. People passing by say to him, “So, you reached just lying here? We climbed all the way up to the shrine to reach—how could you reach lying here? That can’t be!” But the fakir says, “If you cannot reach while lying here, how will you reach by climbing up? Where there is to be reached…
Maha Geeta · Discourse 2Question 2 1976-09-12 Pune Hindi

Osho, seekers have always observed that God-realization is an extremely arduous event. But enlightened ones like you have always emphasized that the divine can happen here and now. Is saying this again and again a challenge and a way to make people try—a method, a device?

He began to beg. Twenty years passed. He forgot. If someone begs for twenty years, to keep remembering “I am a prince” would be impossible, painful; it would make begging difficult. So it is only fitting that he forgot. He had to forget, otherwise how could he beg? A prince—and he begs? Door to door, standing with a begging bowl at thresholds! Begging outside hotels and restaurants, asking for leftovers! A prince! He had to forget the prince entirely, had to consign it to oblivion. That chapter was closed. As if it had been some dream, some story read, a film seen—what did it have to do with him? After twenty years, when the emperor—his father—grew old, he became anxious: there was only one son! He alone was the heir. He told his ministers: Go find him, and wherever he is, bring him back. Tell him his father has forgiven…

Osho, I have a question regarding oneness. Until now I have understood that when a person becomes enlightened, his oneness is simultaneously with the whole cosmos— not that if it is with the inanimate it is not with the animate; or if it is with the animate it is not with the inanimate. But from what you said it seemed as if when Mahavira’s oneness is with the inert, with trees, then it is not with human beings. Otherwise the person who was driving nails into his ears would not have been able to. So I have always believed that when oneness happens, it happens simultaneously with all. Does it h

Absolutely right—what you say is right. When total oneness happens it is simultaneous, but that happens only in moksha. And what I said was that Mahavira is among those who returned before attaining complete liberation—there is oneness, but then Mahavira would disappear. In complete oneness, Mahavira is no more. Therefore there remains no way to send a message. One who is liberated becomes a part of the divine. The divine does not send you messages. Its oneness is with you. To bring a message, Mahavira has returned—one step before. Knowledge is complete, but he has not yet dissolved into the ocean. Like a river that has reached the shore of the ocean and, just before it merges, turns back to call out once. Gibran has used this symbol: “I am like that river which has come close to falling into the ocean, and before I fall, I remember all those…
The Mahageeta Vol 1 · Discourse 2Question 2 1976-09-12 Gautam the Buddha Auditorium English

Beloved Osho, it has always been the observation of seekers that the realization of godliness is a very arduous phenomenon. But enlightened ones like you always emphasize that it can happen right here, right now. Is saying this again and again a provocation? And a method or device to arouse thirst in us?

Don't laugh, because most people are just like Chinmaya. Don't think that your laughing proves that you are different than Chinmaya. Chinmaya at least got up the courage to ask -- you didn't even ask. This is the only difference. You are just like him. If you haven't become God by the time the Ashtavakra Gita discourses are over, then know: there is no difference, you are just like him. But if while listening you wake up and become God, then just the shadow of the whip has worked. "It has always been the observation of seekers that the realization of God is a very arduous phenomenon." The seeker is off track from the very beginning. The very meaning of seeker assumes that God has to be sought, that he has lost God somewhere. The seeker accepts that he has lost the divine somewhere. What a strange idea. He has…
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