Geeta

Osho, a part of my earlier question remained to be taken up. It is this: by combining Shankara’s supermoralism and Tilak’s activism, do you think the Gita would be complete? Because the supra-morality you speak of is what Shankara speaks of, not Tilak. Tilak is intensely moralistic. And the engagement you speak of is what Tilak speaks of; Shankara does not—he follows the path of renunciation (nivritti-marga).

A dead sum is only the complete total of its parts. A living whole is a little more than its parts. Consider yourself: if we calculate all the constituents of your body—how much iron, copper, aluminum, salt, water, phosphorus—we could list it all. In a human body, at best there are only a few rupees’ worth of materials; most of it—perhaps ninety percent—is just water. If we were to put all this on paper, add it up, the sum would be complete. But you would not be in it. Everything would be there—except you. Because you are a living person, something more than that sum. You are within the sum, yet you are not the sum. The total can be complete, and yet you will be absent. Krishna’s life-vision is an organic unity. A thousand commentaries have been written on its many facets. Ramanuja says one thing, Shankara another, Nimbarka…

Questioner: a part of my question remains unanswered. Do you think the geeta will be complete if shankara's supra-moralism and tilak's activism are made into one piece? Because the supra-rationality that you speak about is echoed by shankara, not tilak; the latter is out and out a moralist. On the other hand tilak, not shankara echoes your positivism, your dynamism. Shankara is for renunciation.

Putting different parts together is a mechanical process, it cannot be organic. We can break up a machine into its parts and remake it by putting the parts together again. But we cannot do the same with a live, organic body. Please bear in mind this fundamental difference between organic unity and mechanical togetherness. While a mechanical combination is equal to the totality of parts, an organic unity is much more than the sum total of its parts. For example. if we make a list of all the ingredients that make up a human body -- like iron, copper, sodium, aluminum, phosphorus and the rest of it, they will be worth four to five rupees, not more, Nine-tenths of a human body is water, which does not cost anything at the moment. And the rest of these things are available in the market. If however, you put them all together…

Osho, will you regard the Gita as the authentic words of Krishna?

You ask whether I will regard the Gita as the authentic words of Krishna? If there has been a person like Krishna, then a discourse like the Gita would indeed be authentic. The question is not whether Krishna actually spoke it or not. The question is that if Krishna were to speak, he could only speak like this. And even if Krishna did not speak and Vyasa alone wrote the Gita, it doesn’t make much difference, because Vyasa could not write it unless there were a person like Krishna. In the end one has to say—let it be Vyasa who wrote it, it makes no difference—but Vyasa too would be speaking the Gita, no! What difference does it make? It makes no difference. Whether Krishna speaks, or Vyasa speaks, or A, B, C—someone else—speaks, to speak the Gita there must be someone within. This Gita doesn’t drop out of the…

Questioner: do you take the geeta as the authentic voice of krishna?

You ask if I take the GEETA to be the authentic voice of Krishna. If a person like Krishna has happened then the GEETA has to be authentic. It is not relevant if Krishna said it or not, what is relevant is that if a person like Krishna says something, he will only say something like the GEETA. Even if the GEETA is taken to be written by Vyasa, and not delivered by Krishna, it does not make a difference. A Vyasa cannot write the GEETA without a Krishna being there. Even if it is taken to have been said by Vyasa and not by Krishna, it is the GEETA that he spoke, and it remains the same. It is immaterial whether Krishna, Vyasa or some xyz is the author of the GEETA. Authorship is not important, what is important is the GEETA itself. It has not appeared from the…