Sangha

Osho, because women were admitted into the sangha, the religion of Lord Buddha lasted only five hundred years in India instead of five thousand. You, however, are allowing women free entry into your sangha; would you kindly tell us how long-lived your religion will be?

Worrying about the future is part of ignorance. Let tomorrow take care of what tomorrow will be. There is a story that Buddha worried about this, but how true that story is is hard to say. I have also told you many times that Buddha said, “Now my religion will last only five hundred years; women have been admitted.” This can have only one meaning; it certainly cannot mean that Buddha was concerned about the future. Whether a religion lasts five hundred years, five thousand, or fifty thousand—what use is that to Buddha? So the purpose must have been something else. That purpose is simply this: the life-discipline of Buddha was fundamentally developed for men. Mahavira’s life-discipline too was fundamentally developed for men. Both paths are of resolve, not surrender; of austerity, not of the Lord’s grace. In both their paths there is no place for God; there is no…

Osho, the Buddha wanted to avoid giving sannyas to women. Shankara too was not in favor of giving sannyas to women. What incompatibility is there between the life of sannyas and women? Is there no harmony between them, or only a little? Do women need sannyas less than men?

Man and woman have essentially different paths. The man’s path is meditation; the woman’s path is love. The man’s path is knowledge; the woman’s path is devotion. Their inner climates are very different, even opposite. To man, love seems a bondage; to woman, love seems a liberation. So even when a man loves, he does it while running, fearful that he may get bound. And when a woman loves, she wants to be bound wholly, because in bondage she has known freedom. Therefore the man’s language is: How to get free? How to be liberated from the world? And the woman’s search is: How to drown totally so that nothing remains behind? So sannyas is fundamentally masculine. That is why even Buddha hesitated. Women were moved—women are moved easily, for their hearts are more sensitive—and they began to ask: Give us sannyas too. Buddha was afraid. Mahavira even told them…

Why was the buddha so reluctant to allow women into his sangha? Why did he feel, what did he feel about women?

They said, "Either he is going to become a chakravartin, a world conqueror, a world emperor, who will rule all the six continents, or he is going to become a renunciate, a sannyasin, who will renounce the world and live like a beggar. These are the two possibilities. Both are open, and we cannot say decisively which is going to happen." Then the father was very much afraid. He had been hoping for so long, and now, in his old age, the son was born -- it would have been better if he had not been born. In old age now, all his hopes were on him -- he was going to carry out all his incomplete ambitions -- and if he were to renounce the world that would be a great shock to him, he might die of the shock. He could not conceive or accept the possibility. Very…

It was continuously reported to me by women sannyasins, "What has happened to your sannyasins? They find excuses to escape." I said, "Nothing has happened. I have allowed you both total freedom, and freedom brings understanding. They have seen that in sexual relationship they are the losers, they are the fools. Next day, they have the hang-over. Naturally, everybody wants to protect himself, and everybody has the right to protect himself." But Buddha was afraid, because he would not allow a man even to see women. He would not allow a man to touch a woman, he will not allow a man to talk with a woman. Now if this is the situation, then naturally women have to be kept out of the sangha, of the initiated commune. But finally he reluctantly agreed, he had to agree.