Is it possible for scientists to develop enlightened people in a test-tube?

Beloved Osho, could it be possible for scientists to develop enlightened people in a test-tube?

Never. Don't wait for such stupid things. In the test-tube the scientist can produce a great painter, a great artist, a great dancer, a great musician, a great poet. But the scientist cannot produce an enlightened man in the test-tube, because that is the only quality which you have to work for. Nobody can give it to you. You have to become more conscious. It does not matter whether you are born in a test-tube or in a mother's womb -- both are wombs. It does not matter at all. Enlightenment is the only thing in human life which will remain forever and forever the glory of individuality. Everything else can be produced; enlightenment you have to grow yourself. It is something so intrinsic to you, it is your very soul. The scientist can give you a better, stronger body, he can give you a longer life, he can give…

Many people in the west are engaged in the creation of a science or technology of enlightenment. The need is certainly there, but how do you see the possibility? Is it irresponsible to engage in its creation without having reached the state of enlightenment? Is the arica method a valid approach?

Arica has chosen from different schools. Arica is very greedy, eclectic; but there exists no center. It is not an orchestra, it is a market noise. First thing: if you follow the Arica method too much, you will not arrive to your center. You will come to many experiences on the periphery, but you will never arrive to your center. And all your experiences will not be of a family, but fragmentary. And it is dangerous; you can fall into pieces. The second thing: there is no love, because there is no center -- and love arises only from the center. This collection of so many methods is soul-less, there is no soul in it. So you can become very, very efficient in the methods, and yet you will see that your heart is not flowering. You will become efficient, but you will not become blissful. You may become less…

Osho, you discussed how science could organize the creation of superior human bodies. But what will be achieved by superior bodies alone? How can science choose superior souls? And how will it ensure that only superior souls enter excellent bodies? This task would have to be done by a pure, enlightened soul like you. Science may be able to produce a scientist or a Hitler, but how could one arrange to bring forth a Krishna, a Mahavira, or a Buddha? Please shed light on this.

And souls are eager; infinite souls are always wandering, ready to enter wombs. And you will be surprised to know: ordinary souls enter immediately, because ordinary wombs are always available—thousands of fools are engaged in intercourse, twenty-four hours somewhere or other... somewhere it is night. And now the modern man doesn’t even count day and night; he is at sex day or night—who cares! Everywhere there are wombs available for ordinary people to be born. But extraordinary beings have to wait for many years to take birth, because such an extraordinary womb is not available. If we can provide extraordinary wombs, we can fill the earth with Buddhas, with Mahaviras. And certainly, if people are healthy, prosperous, intelligent, then what you say, Anand Veetrag—that this work will have to be done by a pure, enlightened soul like you—my work will become simple. The work of awakening the soul will become…

Osho, what are the reasons that very few persons in the world are interested in transforming their inner heat into spiritual light? Do you feel that the present generation is capable of creating enlightened ones like krishna, lao tzu and christ?

That also did not do because you cannot force yourself to be a Buddha, you cannot imitate. But Devadatta is forgotten and Buddha remains. The whole age is forgotten; only Buddha remains. Everything has disappeared; only Buddha remains. And then we compare Buddha with our own age. Because of that, this problem arises over whether a Buddha or a Jesus can be born today. It looks impossible. How is it possible in "this age of darkness, corruption, immorality"? How is this possible! Another factor also enters: whenever a person is dead for twenty centuries, we forget how we behaved with him when he was alive. Jesus was crucified not because he was a great Teacher or a great Enlightened One, but only because he was "immoral, undisciplined -- against the code and against the tradition". This behaviour was not that of a respectable man. And when he was killed, it…

It is exactly like when you love someone. Now the feeling of that love is one thing, and when you say to the person, "I love you," you know these words "I love you" do not express what you feel. The feeling is so big, so alive, and the words are so dead and so small, that in fact people start saying to each other "I love you" when they stop loving. Only husbands and wives say to each other, "I love you." Lovers hesitate. They may rather hold each other's hand and sit silently; perhaps something transpires hand to hand. You may give a roseflower rather than saying "I love you". That roseflower can say more, much more. But the experience of one's being is millions of times bigger than love. No roseflower can help. So all that can be done is to point the way.