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Does the survival of communes depend on social structure and affluence of society?

The survival of communes is not determined by the wealth of society, but by their willingness to challenge and transcend the power structures that seek to suppress them.

— Osho
According to Osho, the survival of communes hinges less on a society’s affluence and more on their alignment with its power structures. Buddha and Mahavira’s followers endured because they depended on and upheld prevailing morality. His commune, a self-sufficient revolt against church, state, and culture, inevitably attracted annihilation. Any alternative society that refuses dependence and challenges the established order will be crushed, however rich the surrounding society.

Communes last when they fit in and rely on society; if they try to stand alone and fight the system, society shuts them down, rich or not.

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Beloved Osho, the communes of mahavira and buddha survived even after their lifetimes, but your communes are not surviving in your lifetime although they are self-sufficient. Does survival of communes depend on social structure, affluence of the society, prevalent religions, or national and international politics? Please comment.

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I Am That · Discourse 15Question 1 1980-10-25 Buddha Hall English

Osho, you have been speaking on several occasions against socialism, and yet I feel that in this commune the first experiment of an alive socialism is happening. Is this another of your contradictions?

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Beloved Osho, rajneeshpuram was a rare experiment in the history of human consciousness where for the first time seekers of truth from the whole world gathered around a master. It was an international commune for the most intense and the fastest growth of human consciousness. The rajneeshpuram commune could not survive because of orthodox religions and international politics. Is there any hope of such a rare experiment happening again around you? Or is there any alternative experiment possible on an individual scale in the present situation? Or is it destined that such a rare opportunity for h

The commune in America was only a beginning; a beginning of many communes around the world. They will go on spreading -- because it is not only a question of orthodox religions and dirty politics, it is also a question of the future of humanity. And the future is always more important than the past. The past is heavy and long. The future is light, unknown. But the past is dead, and life belongs to the future -- and death cannot win over life. One commune can be destroyed. Thousands of other communes will arise. Of course my way of functioning will be different because the experiment in Rajneeshpuram needed me to be there, it was the first commune.... Every step had to be taken carefully. And within five years, so much was done that is not possible to do even in fifty years. But now the basic rules are…
Light On The Path · Discourse 1Question 6 1985-12-03 Kathmandu, Nepal English
Question: BELOVED OSHO, WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNES? I don't think much about the future because the future is born of the present. If we can take care of the present, we have taken care of the future. It is not going to come from nowhere, it is going to grow from this moment. The next moment will be growing out of this moment. If this moment is beautiful, silent, blissful, the next moment is bound to be more silent, more blissful. Now there are communes all over the world, and they are rejoicing in the present. Naturally, whatever comes in the future will be better.
The Last Testament Vol 5 · Discourse 11Para 1 1985-12-26 Kulu/Manali, India English
[NOTE: This is a typed tape transcript and has not been edited or published, as of August 1992. It is for reference use only.] INTERVIEW WITH SWAMI JAY PRAKASH FOR DAINIK NAW PRABHAT, INDIA Q: BHAGWAN, AFTER THE FAILURE OF RAJNEESHPURAM COMMUNE, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNES? A: First, it was not a failure. Do you think murdering Socrates by poison was a failure of Socrates and his philosophy. In fact, that was the ultimate victory of the man. He proved that a single man and his truth is more powerful than the whole society with all its powers, riches, population, armies. They could do only one thing to this man: they could kill him. But by killing the man the truth is not killed. In fact, on the contrary, by killing Socrates they have made his truth immortal.
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