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What is the relevance of Gestalt therapy and Voice Dialogue in modern psychotherapy?

Real transformation demands meditation, for it is only by stepping out of the mind that problems wither and lose their nourishment.

— Osho
According to Osho, Gestalt therapy and the newer Voice Dialogue are merely sophisticated mind games: they can unburden you, tidy and lubricate the mind, and keep you ‘normal,’ but they never touch the root. Psychotherapies serve social adjustment, prune symptoms, and remain inside mind’s limits; thus problems regenerate. Since no therapy has yielded enlightenment, real transformation demands meditation—stepping out of mind altogether—where problems wither because the mind loses its nourishment.

These therapies can tidy your thoughts for a while, but only meditation really ends the mess by stepping outside the thought-machine.

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The Invitation · Discourse 26Question 3 1987-09-03 Chuang Tzu Auditorium English

Beloved Osho, you often talked about psychoanalysis and related therapies. Would you please comment on more recent developments like fritz perls' gestalt therapy and -- the latest fashion -- voice dialogue? Can these therapies help a person who is already meditating to see himself and his games more clearly?

He was continually asked, "Give a public demonstration of your levitation" -- and he could not. A case was brought in the Supreme Court of America by seven of his own disciples, who had been working hard on levitation and found that it was absolute nonsense -- they were just hopping! So they had brought a case against him, demanding ninety million dollars. He has been cheating the whole world, and he has accumulated tremendous money. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi dropped that idea because he could not give a public demonstration. He came with a new idea, and this new idea is yogic flying -- even greater. And what is the purpose of yogic flying? -- if one person can learn to fly, then ninety-nine persons in the world will become meditative and silent and peaceful. A big business, because it means for five billion people to become peaceful -- no…
The Invitation · Discourse 17Question 1 1987-08-29 Chuang Tzu Auditorium English
Question: BELOVED OSHO, DOES PSYCHOLOGICAL THERAPY HELP TO GO BEYOND THE MIND? Vijen, psychological therapy can help you to understand the mind, but it cannot lead you beyond the mind. Only one thing leads you beyond the mind and that is meditation. Meditation has nothing to do with psychotherapy, but psychotherapy can create a ground by giving you a better understanding of your mind to go into meditation. It cannot lead you directly into the transcendental, but it can be a help, just the way you prepare a garden. First, you prepare the soil, but that is not the garden. And just preparing the ground, removing the weeds, the grass, any wild growth, stones, roots, still it is not the garden -- this much psychotherapy can do. Now you will have to put seeds, give nourishment to those seeds, care and love and protection.
From Bondage To Freedom · Discourse 38 1985-10-22 Rajneeshmandir English
Question: BELOVED MASTER, WHAT IS BEYOND PSYCHOTHERAPY? The being can see through the mind with great clarity, perception. Before the being's arrival it was always a question of either/or -- to do this or to do that, what is right, what is wrong -- and the mind was never able to decide. And, whatever it decided, it was always half-hearted; hence, repentance was always bound to happen. You were thinking to marry this woman or that woman... finally the mind has to decide. Wavering, it comes to a decision. By marrying one woman you come to know the woman in her totality, and a great repentance settles in: you have chosen the wrong woman. Nobody in the whole world has chosen the right woman, neither has any woman chosen the right man. It is very strange....
The Great Pilgrimage From Here To Here · Discourse 14Question 1 1987-09-13 Gautam the Buddha Auditorium English

Beloved Osho, is taking the role of a therapist dangerous to my own spiritual growth? Is it possible to help people and still let my own ego dissolve at the same time? I feel that a subtle fight goes on inside me between one part that is clear and another part that wants nothing to do with clarity. Under your guidance I have learned not to dominate others when I use my capacity to see, but am I still dominating myself?

But these people have not gone inside; they have looked from outside. And this is the problem: from the outside you can only see objects, and love is not an object, bliss is not an object, enlightenment is not an object, understanding is not an object, wisdom is not an object. All that is great in human existence and life is subjective, not objective. But from the outside you can see only objects. That gives a tremendous urgency to fill your hollow inside with any rubbish. There are people who are filling it with borrowed knowledge; there are people who are filling it with self-imposed torture -- they become saints. There are people who are beggars to become the prime minister, to become the president. Everywhere the hollow people are in tremendous need to dominate others. That gives them the feeling that they are not hollow. A sannyasin begins by…
Sahaj Yog · Discourse 8Question 4 1978-11-28 Pune Hindi

Osho, to rise above mental afflictions like lust, anger, greed and attachment, and states like ego and stupefaction, the Buddha, Mahavira, and all Indian saints have prescribed only practices such as meditation-awakening, devotional singing and chanting, and satsang. But why are you—on what basis—adding new means like therapy-groups (group psychotherapy) along with other methods for Indian friends? Kindly explain.

I have no desire for your respect or your applause. I am not here to reproduce any enlightened one. I will live in my own way. I will say what is mine to say. So drop these expectations. Don’t keep throwing names like Buddha, Mahavira, and the rishis and munis at me; you bore me with them. Let them be. If you meet them somewhere, ask them why they don’t conduct group psychotherapy! I will live in my own way. I am a category unto myself. I am not a repetition of anyone, nor do I have any taste for that. Time is changing. It changes every day. What was needed then, the Buddha would have done. What is needed today, I will do. That need did not exist then. People were simple, straightforward, rural. Understand a little. If a woodcutter who chops wood daily comes here, I will not…
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