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Osho, in India today, on the spiritual plane, is there any ongoing lineage of figures like Ramakrishna, Vivekananda, or Aurobindo? In these past two or three hundred years, has there been anyone like that?
Yes. Here, in the past two–three centuries, the most influential figures have been Ramana and Krishnamurti. But no lineage could form behind Ramana, and behind Krishnamurti it will not form either. Krishnamurti is opposed to creating one. And behind Ramana it could not form. A man of that caliber was not found who could carry the matter forward or add something to it. Ramakrishna found Vivekananda. Vivekananda is a very powerful person, but not experienced. Because of his power he did set the wheel in motion, but there isn’t much life in that wheel, so it is not going to go far. Ramakrishna is deeply experienced, but he is not in the position of being a teacher, of being a Tirthankara. He cannot be a teacher. So for the first time... It happens many times that when someone cannot be a teacher, he places the work of teaching on another’s…
प्रश्न: ओशो, हिंदुस्तान में अभी कोई आध्यात्मिक तल पर ऐसी कोई श्रृंखला रामकृष्ण, विवेकानंद या अरविंद, इनके जैसे व्यक्तियों की कोई श्रृंखला चल रही है? इन दो सौ, तीन सौ साल में ऐसा कोई हुआ है?
हां, यहां सबसे ज्यादा प्रभावशाली आदमी इन दो-तीन सौ वर्षों में रमण और कृष्णमूर्ति हैं पीछे। लेकिन न तो रमण के पीछे श्रृंखला बन सकी, और कृष्णमूर्ति के पीछे भी नहीं बनेगी। कृष्णमूर्ति बनाने के विरोध में हैं। और रमण के पीछे बन नहीं सकी। उस कीमत का आदमी नहीं मिला जो बढ़ा सके आगे बात को या कुछ जोड़ दे सके। रामकृष्ण को विवेकानंद मिले। विवेकानंद बहुत शक्तिशाली व्यक्ति हैं, अनुभवी नहीं हैं। तो शक्तिशाली होने की वजह से उन्होंने चक्र तो चला दिया, लेकिन चक्र में ज्यादा जान नहीं है, इसलिए वह जाने वाला नहीं है। रामकृष्ण बहुत अनुभवी हैं, लेकिन टीचर होने की, तीर्थंकर होने की कोई स्थिति उनकी नहीं है। शिक्षक वे नहीं हो सकते। इसलिए पहली दफा...ऐसा कई दफा होता है कि जब कोई व्यक्ति शिक्षक नहीं हो सकता तो वह दूसरे व्यक्ति के कंधे पर रख कर शिक्षण का काम करता है। तो रामकृष्ण ने विवेकानंद के कंधे पर रख कर हाथ शिक्षण का काम विवेकानंद से ले लिया है।
Osho, could you please tell me your opinion about j. Krishnamurti, who is saying that you won't be free and therefore not happy as long as you follow any tradition, religion or master?
GAUTAM THE BUDDHA has divided the enlightened persons into two categories. The first category he calls the ARHATAS and the second BODHISATTVAS. The ARHATA and the BODHISATTVA are both enlightened; there is no difference between their experience, but the arhata is not a Master and the BODHISATTVA is a Master. The ARHATA has attained to the same truth but he is incapable of teaching it, because teaching is a totally different art. For example, you can see a beautiful sunset, you can experience the beauty of it as deeply, as profoundly as any Vincent van Gogh, but that does not mean you will be able to paint it. To paint it is a totally different art. Experiencing is one thing, helping others to experience it is not the same. There have been many ARHATAS but very few BODHISATTVAS. The BODHISATTVA is both enlightened and skillful to teach what has happened…
Osho, sensitive people from the far corners of the world are being drawn to you. Yet it is surprising that your voice does not seem to reach saintly men like Krishnamurti, Vinoba, Jayaprakash, and Kripalani. Why can they not perceive that here in Poona there is a person who holds the medicine for humanity’s fundamental malady?
With Krishnamurti the ease, the benefit, is that your intellect will always remain satisfied. One who once begins to walk with him keeps on walking. No occasion will arise to leave, because the very reason for joining will never be contradicted—Krishnamurti will go on confirming it again and again, a thousand times. His intellectual conviction will become stronger and stronger. But the danger is that he will remain stuck in the intellect and never reach the heart. And you ask about Kripalani? Krishnamurti cannot come to me; there is no need. Krishnamurti is religion embodied. Kripalani also cannot come to me; there is no need—because Kripalani is pure politics; he has nothing to do with religion. Krishnamurti cannot come because he is established in religion; Kripalani cannot come because he has nothing to do with religion. His whole life has gone into politics—setting up moves and counter-moves, arranging pawns! A…
पहला प्रश्न: ओशो, दुनिया के कोने-कोने से सारे संवेदनशील लोग आपके पास खिंचे चले आ रहे हैं। पर आश्चर्य होता है कि कृष्णमूर्ति, विनोबा, जयप्रकाश तथा कृपलानी जैसे साधु-पुरुषों तक आपकी आवाज क्यों नहीं पहुंच पाती है? वे क्यों नहीं अनुभव कर पाते हैं कि यहां पूना में वह व्यक्ति मौजूद है जिसके पास मनुष्यता की मूल व्याधि की औषधि है?
कृष्णमूर्ति के साथ सुविधा यह है, लाभ यह है कि तुम्हारी बुद्धि सदा तृप्त रहेगी। जो एक बार उनके साथ चला, चलता ही रहेगा। उसे छोड़ने का कोई मौका न आएगा। क्योंकि जिस कारण वह साथ हुआ था, उसके विपरीत कृष्णमूर्ति कभी भी कुछ न कहेंगे। वे उसी को सिद्ध करते रहेंगे बार-बार, हजार बार। उसकी बौद्धिक धारणा और मजबूत होती चली जाएगी। लेकिन खतरा यह है कि वह बुद्धि में ही अटका रह जाएगा, हृदय तक कभी न पहुंच पाएगा।
Beloved Osho, many contemporaries and enlightened ones -- raman maharshi, meher baba, george gurdjieff and j. Krishnamurti -- have worked with people, but people get more offended by you than by anybody else. Osho, where does your technique differ from that of other enlightened ones?
The question is very fundamental. It arises in many people's minds, and it needs a very deep insight into the workings of different masters. We will take each of the masters named in the question separately. Raman Maharshi is a mystic of the highest quality, but a master of the lowest quality. And you have to understand that to be a mystic is one thing; to be a master is totally different. Out of a thousand mystics, perhaps one is a master. Nine hundred and ninety-nine decide to remain silent -- seeing the difficulty, that whatever they have realized is impossible to convey in any possible way to others; seeing that not only is it difficult to convey, it is bound to be misunderstood too. Naturally, one who has arrived to the ultimate peak of consciousness will most probably decide not to bother with the world anymore. He has suffered…
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