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Why is there no unanimity among those who know about the concepts of destiny and self-effort?

Truth cannot be fully spoken; it must be tailored to the listener's condition, for different seekers require different medicines to awaken.

— Osho
According to Osho, apparent disagreements about destiny and self-effort arise because true knowers don't describe truth itself but prescribe in relation to the seeker. The ultimate cannot be fully spoken, so masters tailor their words to the listener's condition: to shatter ego they stress destiny; to rouse inertia they stress effort. Different patients need different medicines, hence seeming contradictions without any real divergence.

Wise teachers say different things because they give each person the medicine they need—fate talk for the proud, effort talk for the lazy.

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Maha Geeta · Discourse 32Question 2 1976-11-12 Pune Hindi

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Osho, is sannyas a human possibility or an ultimate destiny? Please tell us.

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Kano Suni So Juth Sab · Discourse 6 1977-07-16 Pune Hindi

Osho, you said... then you will find that the devotee is God. The question arises: if one devotee prefers to be God and another wants to remain only a devotee, then which of the two is superior?

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Jin Sutra · Discourse 18Question 3 1976-05-28 Pune Hindi

Osho, awakened ones, considering place, time, circumstance, and the era-appropriate psychology of people, have expressed the same truth in very different forms. To the point that they appear mutually quite disputatious and even contradictory. Is an absolute expression of the ultimate truths of life and existence not possible? Will the limits of the age and the condition of the people always continue to be imposed upon truth?

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