Geeta Darshan #3

Sutra (Original)

दम्भो दर्पोऽभिमानश्च क्रोधः पारुष्यमेव च।
अज्ञानं चाभिजातस्म पार्थ संपदमासुरीम्‌।। 4।।
दैवी संपद्विमोक्षाय निबन्धायासुरी मता।
मा शुचः संपदं दैवीमभिजातोऽसि पाण्डव।। 5।।
द्वौ भूतसर्गौ लोकेऽस्मिन्दैव आसुर एव च।
दैवो विस्तरशः प्रोक्त आसुरं पार्थ मे श्रृणु।। 6।।
Transliteration:
dambho darpo'bhimānaśca krodhaḥ pāruṣyameva ca|
ajñānaṃ cābhijātasma pārtha saṃpadamāsurīm‌|| 4||
daivī saṃpadvimokṣāya nibandhāyāsurī matā|
mā śucaḥ saṃpadaṃ daivīmabhijāto'si pāṇḍava|| 5||
dvau bhūtasargau loke'smindaiva āsura eva ca|
daivo vistaraśaḥ prokta āsuraṃ pārtha me śrṛṇu|| 6||

Translation (Meaning)

Hypocrisy, pride, and self-conceit; anger, and harshness as well.
Ignorance too—these are the traits of those born with the demoniac endowment, O Partha.।। 4।।

The divine endowment leads to liberation; the demoniac is deemed to bind.
Do not grieve—you are born with the divine endowment, O Pandava.।। 5।।

In this world there are two kinds of beings: the divine and the demoniac.
The divine has been declared at length; of the demoniac, O Partha, now hear from me.।। 6।।

Osho's Commentary

Now let us take the sutra.

And O Partha, hypocrisy, vanity and pride, and also anger, harsh speech and ignorance — these are the marks of one endowed with asuri sampada. Of these two endowments, the daivi sampada is held to be for liberation, and the asuri sampada for bondage. Therefore, O Arjuna, do not grieve, for you have attained to daivi sampada.

And, O Arjuna, in this world the dispositions of beings are understood to be of two kinds: one like the devas, the other like the asuras. Of the nature of the devas I have already spoken at length; therefore now listen from me, in detail, to the nature of the asuras.

Pakhand — hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy means: to show yourself as that which you are not; to present a face that is not your real face.

We all carry masks. As the need arises, we change them. From morning till evening, many times we are compelled to use new faces. As the situation demands, such a face we put on. Slowly, slowly it can also happen that, walking so long in hypocrisy, you forget who you are.

This is what has happened. If you ask yourself, Who am I? no answer comes. For you have displayed so many faces, adopted so many forms, advertised yourself in so many ways that you yourself have fallen into bewilderment: Who am I? What is my truth? Do I have any truth — or is everything about me deception upon deception? From morning till night, we keep projecting what we are not.

Krishna counted among the daivi qualities: truth, authenticity — the man as he is, that alone is his way of being, whatever the consequence. In asuri sampada there are many faces.

We read the story of Ravana, but perhaps the meaning has not reached you. Ravana is Dashanan — ten-faced. Rama has only one face. Rama is authentic, straightforward. You can recognize him, for there is no trick. Ravana is difficult to recognize. He has many faces. Ten means: many. For ten is the last number; beyond ten there is no new number — all numbers are re-arrangements upon ten.

Ten faces means the limit has been reached. Which is his real face becomes hard to discern. Ravana is asuric. And as long as the state of our consciousness is asuric, we too have many faces. We too are dashanan. Through this we deceive others — that is one thing — but we also deceive ourselves. For we ourselves forget what our nature truly is.

Hypocrisy means: to deceive the other and, in the end, by that deception to cast yourself into delusion too.

The nature of a lie is this: to protect one lie, a thousand more must be told. Then there is such an endless chain of lies that we no longer even remember what the first lie was that we uttered.

A second nature of a lie is this: if it is repeated again and again, by constant repetition we become auto-hypnotized, we fall under a spell. And we ourselves begin to feel that it is right. Repeat a lie again and again, and you yourself will start doubting whether it is a lie or the truth — for you have repeated it so often that its imprint has sunk into you.

I was reading of a man who had committed a murder. A case was filed. Proceedings went on for years. It was a complex, tangled matter. Lawyers argued, witnesses spoke, the court kept sitting. In the end, even the magistrate grew tired, for the whole situation was utterly confused; nothing was clear. No two statements matched, no two witnesses agreed. A decision seemed impossible. At last the judge, exhausted, asked the accused: Be kind — tell us yourself, what is the truth of it?

He said: When I first came here, it was clear to me too. Now it is difficult. I myself have become confused. I cannot say plainly whether I killed or did not. For when I hear my lawyer’s arguments, even I feel convinced that I did not kill; some mistake has been made; or perhaps I only dreamed it. So there is no value to my words now. You decide.

This is the situation. If you keep uttering one lie for many years, it becomes hard to be sure afterward whether you lied or it was true. This is the second nature of a lie: repeat it and it begins to appear true. And every lie needs other lies to support it.

I saw a placard in a shop in Kashi — a ghee shop. The board read: Shop of genuine ghee. Below it was written: Pure desi ghee from Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, and Punjab available here. Cash reward of five hundred rupees to anyone who proves it fake. And beneath that, in red letters: Such rewards have been distributed here several times already.

Such becomes the state of our mind.

Hypocrisy means you are one thing, and you are striving to show another. But what you are will keep peeking out through all your efforts. You cannot hide it entirely; you cannot erase it — it is lodged within you. Therefore, even if you do not see it, others do.

Often it happens that what others say about you is more accurate than what you say about yourself. Ninety percent of the time, what others are able to see in you, you cannot. For you have become so absorbed in your own deception. But the other sees you, and through the thin veil of your pretense, the real part of you also shows.

A hypocrite develops many layers. The more hypocritical he is, the more layers will form. And all those layers are a torment. To protect each layer, new layers must be added.

Truth has one convenience: it need not be remembered, it requires no keeping in mind. A lie must be remembered. A lie demands great skill. Truth even a simple man can manage — because there is nothing to remember. Truth is simply truth. Ask him after ten years, he will tell it. But the liar must remember for ten years what lie he told, and how many further lies he told to protect it.

So a lie demands a powerful memory. Hence, a small, ordinary mind cannot manage a grand lie. To run big lies, a wide capacity is needed. Therefore, the more educated a man is, the more logical, the more adept at mathematics, the more skilled he can be in lying.

As education increases in the world, lying increases — because people’s memory skills increase. They can remember, they can manipulate, they can fabricate new lies.

Mulla Nasruddin said to his son, We can no longer tolerate your lies. You tell astonishing lies! The boy said, I — a liar! Nasruddin, to demonstrate in front of a friend standing there, said: All right, tell a lie right now and I’ll give you one rupee as a reward. The boy said, You said five rupees!

He says, I’ll give you one rupee if you tell a lie; and the boy says, You said five! No need to go further to lie.

In such a state of mind, if you set out to seek God, the search is impossible. Even if God sets out to seek you, the search is impossible. Where will he search? Wherever you appear to be, you are not. Where you are, even you do not know. And you have told no one your address.

Among the Jews there is a notion: How will man search for God — weak, ignorant? The Jew believes: God himself searches for man. Someone asked the Jewish mystic Baal Shem, This doctrine is strange. If God seeks man, why has he not found us yet? That we search and do not find — that is understandable. But if God searches, why are we still wandering?

Baal Shem said, Where should he look for you? Wherever you say you are, there you are not found. By the time he reaches there, you have moved elsewhere. He is following after you — but you are like quicksilver, slipping away. You have no fixed address, no identity, no mark by which to be known. How shall you be recognized?

I have heard: In a bank the post of chief cashier was vacant. Many came for interview. It was a big post, a big salary, a great responsibility — a huge bank. When the board of directors met and asked the managing director whom he had chosen, the man he presented disturbed them: the eyes looked in two directions, teeth protruding, nose crooked, face frightening, he limped as he walked. They asked, You found no one else? He said, This one is perfect. Because if ever he runs, he will be caught without difficulty. For a chief cashier, this is perfect. His identity will be unmistakable; wherever in the world he goes, we will catch him.

You have no identity. Even if God wishes to catch hold of you, where will he grasp you?

The greatest mischief of hypocrisy is that your identity is lost; recognition becomes difficult. And this is the first mark of an asuric man.

Vanity and pride.

This will be a little difficult to follow, for we use vanity and pride as the same. The dictionaries also give the same meaning. But Krishna uses them differently.

Vanity is the name for that pride which is not real. Pride is the name for that vanity which has a factual basis. Yet both are sins, both are asuric. Meaning: a man who is not beautiful, but thinks himself beautiful and struts — he is vain. Another is beautiful, knows he is beautiful, and struts — that is pride. But both are asuric.

The first we can understand, for it is simply false; but the second we fail to see, for though factually right, it is still wrong.

What difference does it make whether you are beautiful or not? What matters is that you hold yourself to be beautiful. If one is intelligent and grows stiff with the thought, I am intelligent, the sin is exactly as much as when a fool stiffens and thinks, I am intelligent. It makes no difference, for the core issue is the stiffness.

There is another danger: the one who is not intelligent yet thinks he is may one day be jolted awake; but the one who is intelligent and knows it — to awaken him is very difficult, for you cannot even prove him wrong. His danger is greater. And the danger lies in this: I take myself to be something, and I stiffen in it.

An asuric person always takes himself to be somebody — whether he is or not. Ravana’s arrogance is not merely vanity; it is pride. For he is a man of worth, there is no doubt. A scholar like him is hard to find. His stiffness is not false; there is truth in it. But what difference does that make? If there is truth in the stiffness, the stiffness becomes even stronger. And because of stiffness, man becomes incapable of meeting the Divine.

Ravana comes into conflict with Rama — these are symbols, for wherever there is stiffness, conflict will arise with the Divine. Wherever you stiffen, you will find yourself opposed to Rama.

Where stiffness dissolves, you become fluid; your wave melts, and in that melting your union with the ocean is attained.

So never think: Is my stiffness justified or not? Stiffness is wrong. That stiffness has two names: if it is unjustified, vanity; if justified, pride. Krishna says both are marks of asuri sampada.

Anger and harsh speech.

They are joined, for harsh speech is a form of anger. If there is anger within, a hardness, a dryness enters your words. If there is love within, a sweetness, a melody spreads in your speech.

Speech issues from you and brings the news of your within. As speech comes from within, the winds and fragrances of your within come out with it.

Harsh speech means only this much: within is a stony heart; within you are hard. Sweet speech means: where the winds are arising from, there is coolness, there is melody.

Anger will be a mark of the asuric man; he is always angry, angry at everything. To be offended is his nature. He rises, he sits — he is rising and sitting in anger. Wherever he looks, he looks in anger. He seeks only a mistake — if somewhere a mistake is found, a pretext, a peg to hang his anger upon. If no pretext is available, he will fabricate one. If there is no one to be angry at, he will be angry with himself. But he will be angry; and in his speech the flames of anger will keep flowing. Whatever he speaks will become like an arrow, piercing and wounding someone.

Anger and harsh speech, and ignorance — these are the marks of one endowed with asuri sampada.

Understand ignorance rightly. Ignorance does not mean he will be uneducated. He may be very learned. Ignorance does not mean he will not be a scholar; he may be a scholar. Ravana is a scholar, a great scholar. He may possess much information — but merely information, not wisdom. Knowledge means that which has been known by oneself. Information means that which others have known and you have merely accumulated.

If knowledge is borrowed, it becomes scholarship; if knowledge is one’s own, it becomes prajna — wisdom.

Here ignorance means: whether he knows much or little, he does not know himself. He may know everything, the scriptures of the world may be on his tongue, but he has no recognition of himself — no knowledge of the Atman.

And whatever he does know is all borrowed. He has learned it somewhere; it lies in his memory. But through it his life has not been transformed. He has not burned and been refined in that knowledge. That knowledge has not broken him and made him new. That knowledge has become neither his death nor his birth. It has gathered on him like dust. He has a coating of knowledge, but it has not reached his heart. He carries knowledge, but knowledge has not become his wings to set him free. His knowledge is a weight; it is not weightless.

Here ignorance means: not to know oneself; to be unacquainted with one’s own nature.

Of the two kinds of endowment, daivi sampada is for liberation, and asuri sampada is held to be for bondage.

Asuri sampada will bind; it will imprison you. And the prison is not one built by another; it is a prison you have built for yourself.

Daivi sampada will set you free; the walls will fall, open sky will be revealed. You have wings — but if you have tied fetters around your wings, flight becomes impossible. And if for a long time you have not flown, you may even forget that you have wings.

The eagle lays her eggs on high trees. From the eggs, chicks are born. The trees are very tall. The chicks sit on the edge of the nest and look down. They tremble, they are afraid. They have wings. They do not know that they can fly. And the depth is such that if they fall, life will end. They see their mother, their father, flying in the sky — yet they cannot trust that they too can fly.

So the eagle must do a certain work. How to persuade these little ones into the sky! However much she coaxes and pulls them to the rim, they retreat within. However much she flies before them, showing the delight of flight, their courage does not arise. At most they come to the edge and clutch it tightly.

You will be surprised to know: the eagle must dismantle her own nest. Every twig, every scrap she had gathered, she must pull out and drop. As the nest breaks, the chicks keep sliding inward. Then the last piece remains — the eagle snatches that too. Suddenly the chicks are in the open sky. Not even a moment passes — their wings spread, and they begin circling in the air. In a day or two they become adept. In a day or two they know that the open sky is ours, the wings are ours.

Our condition is almost the same. Someone is needed to topple your nest. Someone is needed to give you a thrust. That is the meaning of the guru.

Krishna is attempting just that with Arjuna. The whole Gita is to break Arjuna’s house, his nest. The whole Gita is to remind Arjuna: You have wings; you can fly. Somehow Arjuna must be shoved so that he opens his wings in the open sky.

Of the two endowments, daivi sampada is for liberation and asuri sampada is for bondage. Therefore, O Arjuna, do not grieve, for you have attained to daivi sampada.

Krishna is giving Arjuna trust: Do not be frightened, do not sorrow, do not worry. You are endowed with the daivi. It is only a matter of opening your wings — the open sky is yours.

Why is Krishna saying that Arjuna is endowed with the daivi?

Arjuna’s inquiry is daivi. That very feeling arising in Arjuna’s mind — Why should I kill? Why commit slaughter? Why descend into this vast tumult of violence? — this feeling is daivi. The thought arises: Through it I may get a kingdom, an empire, the earth may be mine; but what is its essence? This dispassion towards greed, this indifference towards empire, this remorse in the heart at the idea of violence and killing —

Arjuna says, I will leave all this and go to the forest, become a sannyasin — that is better. Arjuna says, These on both sides are my own people. If I, after killing and destroying all these, gain the kingdom, the joy will be so solitary that it will cease to be joy — for joy is to be shared. Those for whom I am striving to win the kingdom, who would be delighted to see me crowned — their corpses will be lying around. A happiness that I cannot share, a happiness I cannot live in companionship with those dear to me — what meaning does such happiness have?

This feeling is daivi. But the reasons he is giving behind these daivi feelings are filled with ignorance. Naturally so — for when the first stirring of the daivi arises, its roots are still in our ignorance. We are ignorant; therefore even when a daivi longing awakens, in it our ignorance has a hand; its shadow falls across it.

Krishna is trying in every way to fill him with trust; that he may drop ignorance too; that the reasons he is giving may also be let go. For if those reasons are held to be right, Arjuna will fall into difficulty. He is saying: They are my own, therefore I fear to kill. This is half daivi and half tainted by ignorance and the asuric.

Daivi is only this much: a distaste for violence has arisen; there is no relish in killing. But the reason — because these are mine — is ignorance. If they were strangers, Arjuna would cut them as a farmer reaps his field. He was no novice at cutting. Many times in life he had killed, he had cut men down. Cutting was easy for him. Never had he thought of what would happen to the soul, heaven, Moksha — no questions had arisen. But those were not his own; these are his own. On that side stands his teacher, Bhishma stands, all cousins and kin. These are mine!

This ‘mine-ness’ is ignorance. ‘I should not kill’ — that is a profoundly daivi feeling. ‘I should not commit violence’ — that is auspicious. But ‘because they are mine I should not’ — that is linked with the inauspicious. Let that inauspicious fall away, and yet may Arjuna move towards divinity — this is Krishna’s whole endeavor.

The feeling of ‘mine’ is sin. Then who is mine and who is not? Either all are mine, or no one is mine. Then Arjuna says, It is not proper to kill them — that is daivi. But that I can kill them — that is filled with ignorance. It is a little subtle.

That I should not kill anyone — that feeling is good; but that I can kill someone, that the Atman can be slain — that feeling is full of ignorance. Even if I wish, I cannot kill; at most I can harm your body. And what harm can truly be done to the body? The body is already dead matter. It cannot be killed; it is clay. Cutting the clay, what is cut? That which is hidden within the body — the conscious, the luminous — cannot be cut. It is not clay. That immortal cannot be slain by any means.

Arjuna says violence is evil. But can violence be? — this notion is full of ignorance. Violence as a pure act cannot be; there is no way. The intention of violence can arise; violence itself cannot be done. The intention of violence is sinful. That violence can be done — this notion is born of ignorance.

In Arjuna, divinity has awakened; but that divinity is still lying upon an asuric bed. The eyes have opened; he has turned on his side — but he has not yet left the bed. Let even that bed be left; let that nest be gone, and may Arjuna fly free in the open sky.

O Arjuna, do not grieve, for you have attained to daivi sampada. And, O Arjuna, in this world the natures of beings are of two kinds: one like the devas and the other like the asuras. Of the nature of the devas I have told at length; therefore now hear from me, in detail, of the nature of the asuras.

Two dispositions — of a single consciousness. A man is bound — chains on his hands, fetters on his feet. Then we cut his bonds; the fetters fall, the chains drop. Now he stands free. Is this man another man — or the same? A moment ago there were chains and fetters; now there are none. A moment ago, not even one step could he take; now he is free to take a thousand. Is he the same man or another?

In one sense, he is the same; nothing has changed. For the chains were not his nature — they were upon him from outside. When the chains fall from the hands, the hands do not change. When the fetters break from the feet, the person does not change. The man is the same.

In another sense, he is not the same. For with the fall of chains he is now free. He can walk, he can run, he is master of his will. Now no one will determine his direction; now there is no one to stop him. A new freedom has been born.

These two states belong to one and the same person. So too are the two states of disposition. Krishna calls that asuric which binds; that daivi which frees. Both are conditions of the same consciousness. And it depends on us in which condition we will live.

It has always been difficult to understand that we are bound by our own hands. Difficult, because none of us wants to be bound — we all want to be free. So the mind resists the understanding that we ourselves have created our bondage. But it must be understood a little.

We desire freedom — but we have never inquired deeply what freedom means. On one side, we want freedom; on the other, from within, we want dependence. For dependence has certain comforts, and we are unwilling to drop them. There is a certain security in dependence.

Nowhere is a man as secure as in prison. Outside there may be riots, mobs, Hindu and Muslim fighting, bullets flying, police and government — all kinds of turmoil. Inside the prison there is no such disturbance. There the man sits in handcuffs and no accidents happen — no motor accident, no airplane falls, no train derails. He is perfectly safe. A prison gives a security which is not possible outside.

We all want security. In the name of security we build our prisons. Freedom is risky, for the open world is full of risk. We want freedom — but we have not the courage to accept risk.

A great Western thinker, Erich Fromm, wrote a valuable book: The Fear of Freedom.

There is a fear of freedom. It is within us all; we all tremble. We say we want freedom — but we are afraid, we shake. We clutch our nest just as the eagle’s chick clutches it. It feels as if we will die; the abyss is so deep, the sky so vast; we are so small; we have no trust in ourselves.

So we seek all kinds of dependencies — of family, of country, of caste, of society. We want to lean on someone. Let someone give us a shoulder; let us put our hand on someone else’s shoulder — perhaps both are weak and are seeking support from each other, but both feel the comfort that someone is with them; we are not alone.

We lose freedom by our own hand; we seek dependence by our own hand.

I have heard: One day Mulla Nasruddin and his wife were quarreling. The wife, very annoyed, said, Who told you to marry me! I wasn’t chasing you. Nasruddin said, That is obvious — the mouse-trap never runs after the mouse. The mouse comes into it by himself; that is clear. No one has ever seen the trap running after the mouse!

All the traps in your life — none of them ran after you. You went in search of them yourself. There is a reason why the trap seems good — there is some security in it. Fear is less there; support is more. Danger is less; risk is nil. Life is bounded. There is a circle; within that circle there is light; beyond the circle, darkness. To step into that darkness makes one afraid. Then one must stand on one’s own feet.

Freedom means to stand on your own feet. Freedom means to take your own decisions.

The many upheavals in the world — behind them lies this: many people seek slavery. Out of a hundred, ninety-nine cannot live without a leader. They want a leader. Everywhere on earth there is a great need for leaders! What is this need?

It is that many cannot walk on their own feet. If someone walks ahead, then they need not worry. If he leads them into a ditch — and leaders have always led into ditches — even then those behind feel assured: the one in front knows; wherever he is going is right. At least this much is certain: the responsibility is not ours; we are merely following.

After the Second World War, the surviving leaders of Germany — Hitler’s associates — were tried. The man who arranged the burning of millions — Eichmann — who built the furnaces in which thousands were incinerated; some thirty million deaths were laid at his door.

But Eichmann was a decent man. He never looked at any woman other than his wife. Every Sunday he went to church and studied the Bible. He did not drink, he did not smoke. He rose daily before dawn. No bad habit. He was not even a meat-eater. Hitler too had these virtues: he did not eat meat, did not drink, did not smoke. All the marks of a respectable man were there.

When Eichmann was tried, people were astonished: how did this man arrange the murder of thirty million? He said: I am merely a subordinate; obedience to orders is my duty. The responsibility is not mine. The command came from above; I executed it. I am just a follower, a soldier.

The weakness of people is that they need a leader. Then where the leader goes is not even a question. The leader himself does not know where he goes. The blind lead the blind. The only difference between leader and follower is this: the follower needs someone to walk ahead of him, and the leader needs someone to walk behind him.

The leader too is dependent on those behind. If no one follows, the leader feels lost. So long as people follow, he feels all is well. If I were not right, how would so many be behind me? As soon as the crowd thins, the leader’s confidence thins. As soon as the followers leave, the leader loses self-trust. He begins to feel: I am going wrong; otherwise people would follow. Therefore the clever leaders have another trick.

I have heard: One day Mulla Nasruddin was riding his donkey at great speed. Some friends stopped him and asked, Where are you going so fast? He said, Do not ask me — ask the donkey. When I try to guide him, he creates obstacles; and in front of people in the bazaar it becomes an embarrassment. I say, Go left — he will not; he goes right. People think even his donkey does not obey him! So I have devised a trick: wherever the donkey goes, I go along. Thus my prestige is saved and the donkey never gets the idea that he can oppose the master.

This is the skill of all leaders. They are always watching where the followers want to go; before the followers turn, the leader turns. Only thus can the leader keep the followers; otherwise they will wander off.

All leaders are followers of their followers — a vicious circle. The leader keeps taking the temperature of the crowd. The crowd wants socialism — so, socialism. The crowd wants poverty abolished — so, abolish poverty. He repeats what the crowd wants to hear. And the followers hear their own voice from his mouth and think, Right! They follow.

Some people cannot move unless someone is ahead of them. Some cannot move unless someone is behind them. Both are dependent.

The free person looks neither ahead nor behind; he walks on his own feet. But this is very difficult — for then no reliance can be sought on another, and no responsibility can be placed on another. All responsibility is one’s own.

Only he who has such courage can be free. Neither leaders are free, nor followers are free. Freedom is the greatest risk in this world.

Krishna says: asuri sampada is for bondage, and daivi sampada is for liberation. And, O Arjuna, do not grieve, for you are endowed with the daivi.

Enough for today.

Questions in this Discourse

First question:
Osho, yesterday you said that when one is completely restless, the practice of peace becomes difficult. Yet you also say that by the law of opposite polarity, transformation is possible only upon reaching the extreme. Please explain.
Self-transformation—an ultimate, radical revolution—becomes possible only at the extreme. Until we reach the farthest limit of a given style of living, until we have endured its pain completely, suffered its torment utterly, no transformation happens.

If someone becomes totally restless, a leap into peace can happen. But remember the condition: total restlessness. Half-restlessness will not do. And almost none of us is totally restless; we are restless only to a degree. Even when we think we are very restless, we are only somewhat restless. Even when we say the situation has become “unbearable,” it remains bearable—because if it were truly unbearable, you would not be able to go on.

What you call “unbearable disturbance,” you still bear. A loved one dies—a son, a mother, a wife, a husband—we say the sorrow is unbearable, yet we bear it; and we survive it. In two or four months the wound heals; we become our old selves again; life resumes as before. We had said “unbearable,” but it was bearable. The restlessness was not complete.

If restlessness were total, only two things would be possible. Either you would be annihilated—you would not survive; or, if you did survive, you would survive utterly transformed. In any case you could not remain as you are. Either self-destruction would occur, or self-transformation; but you could not remain the same.

And yet we see that sorrows come and go, leaving you just as you were—not a whit different. You do again what you used to do: the same life, the same routine, the same manner, the same behavior. A little jolt comes; you regain your balance; the cart starts again on the old track.

In either suicide or inner revolution, you as you know yourself are erased. At the extreme, revolution happens. If someone becomes totally restless, it means there is no room left to become more restless—no path left to go further into restlessness. The last station has been reached. There is no way to move on. In that instant, revolution can happen; in that instant you can see the utter futility of the whole disease of restlessness.

And remember: no one else makes you restless; you make yourself restless. It is your own achievement, your own plant, you planted and watered it, and made it grow. The fruits and flowers of restlessness are the fruits of your own labor. If you become totally restless, you will see that it was all futile; the whole effort was self-destructive. You can drop it—no one is holding you, no one is making you restless.

In a single moment, life can turn from the bend of restlessness toward peace. That is one way. But when I said yesterday that when you are restless it will be difficult to be peaceful, I meant something else.

First, when I say “you are restless,” I do not mean total restlessness. You are halfway. Think of water being heated: at fifty degrees it can neither become steam nor turn into ice; it remains water—only warmer. Either heat it to one hundred degrees and transformation can occur—the water leaps and becomes steam; or cool it below zero and transformation can also occur—the water disappears as water and becomes ice. In both cases water is lost, but only at the extremes.

So when I said yesterday that if you are restless it will be difficult to become peaceful, I meant only this: when water is warm, it is difficult to make ice. Cool the water, and ice can form.

But there are two ways. Either heat the water completely—then water is lost and you enter a new world—or cool the water completely—then too the water is lost and a new journey begins.

There are two ways to leap out of restlessness: either a moment of utter peace arrives, or a moment of utter restlessness arrives. From where you are now, the leap is not possible. Either turn back and quiet yourself, or go forward and become totally restless.

Both ways have conveniences and dangers. The convenience of becoming peaceful is that there is no danger of derangement. Hence most religions have attempted the leap from the peaceful end. Renunciates were told: leave home, leave the household, leave occupations. All this is an arrangement for calming down. Step away from situations that heat the water. Go far to the Himalayas where nothing heats you; gradually you will cool down. Move away from the situations in which you repeatedly begin to boil, where boiling has become a habit. Step away from those persons in whose presence it is difficult for you to remain cool.

Most religions, finding you midway—in incomplete restlessness—have advised turning back. The danger there is less. But there is a difficulty too: you can leave the circumstances and the people, you can leave the market and the shop, but your mind will go with you to the Himalayas. The same mind that was restless here will be with you; only the situations that made you restless will not be.

So it may be that you begin to calm down a little, but that calm can prove deceptive. Live twenty years in the Himalayas, return, and as soon as you enter the city the restlessness may seize you again. Because you had left the situation; you had not become peaceful—you had only moved away from the place where restlessness used to arise. So there is danger as well as convenience.

A second way has been adopted by certain branches of religion. For example, Zen in Buddhism has employed the method of intensifying restlessness to the full. The Sufis in Islam have employed the same experiment. They say: nothing will come of running away. Let the mind go into its full sprint; let it go as mad as it must; let it touch its total madness—and leap from there.

There are dangers and benefits here too. The danger is that you will gradually find yourself becoming more and more insane. The danger is that if you do not reach the very edge—if you stop at ninety degrees—you will remain in a deranged condition. Many renunciates remain stuck in such derangement. If you reach one hundred degrees, the water becomes steam; but it is not guaranteed that you will reach. If you stop even at ninety-nine degrees, you will only be mad, frantic. In that frenzy it will be easy neither to turn back nor to go forward.

That accident happens: if you get stuck in the middle, the difficulty increases. And you will be in such a boiling state that you will be able to do nothing. Therefore, this second path must be trodden necessarily in the presence of a master.

The first path can be walked alone, because it is a process of quieting—no great danger. The second path is dangerous. Someone is needed to bring you to one hundred degrees. After fifty or sixty degrees your own awareness will not serve you; you will be so boiling that you will no longer be in your own control. Another is needed to carry you further. And in the last moments, as you reach one hundred degrees, a master is essential—such a place is needed where other seekers are nearby, where the whole atmosphere can carry you to one hundred degrees and not let you break.

Hence the use of a group, a school, a sangha, an ashram. Where many have attained that peaceful state; where many have passed through that boiling state; where many have known the heat and madness of one hundred degrees—their presence will hold you. And many times this deranged state can last for months, even years. In that time, someone is needed to watch you and to support you.

Western psychologists say that many in Western asylums are not truly insane; they are in a state of frenzy. But in the West there is no one to hold them.

Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists created monasteries. Even today some Christian monasteries in the West exist where, once a person enters, he does not leave until death. Twenty years, thirty years, forty years—whoever has once crossed the gate does not come out until he has crossed beyond; until the master permits, he has nothing to do with the world. And the whole group is supportive. In these monasteries many people live for years in states of derangement.

So the second path has danger and convenience. The convenience is that there is no possibility of deception: once you have crossed, you have crossed; there is no falling back. Then even this whole world cannot make you restless. Wherever you are—even if thrown into hell—you will remain in heaven. Your heaven cannot be stolen. That is the convenience.

The danger is that a great structure is needed, qualified guidance is needed, and total surrender is needed. For allowing yourself to go mad, for giving someone the power to lead you toward madness and to agitate you utterly—this cannot happen without deep surrender. Complete surrender and blind following are needed; only then can you become mad. And once you burn totally within, the leap will happen. Transformation happens only at the extreme.

Krishna speaks of the first path, the one that can be trodden even alone. Therefore I said: when you are restless, it will be very difficult to become peaceful. So when you are peaceful, cultivate peace, so that the opportunity for restlessness does not arise—and peace becomes the very foundation of your life. Gradually it becomes so solid that you do not turn water into steam and leap into revolution, but turn water into ice and enter revolution.

In any case, you must move away from “water.” From where you are, you must move. There are two ways to move. The more convenient—the one you can walk alone, without fear of derangement—is the first path. The more intense, more authentic—after which there is no fear of falling back, but which is more dangerous and daring—is the second path. And each person has to decide how much courage he has, how much capacity, how much he dares to stake.

If you have a shopkeeper’s mind, the first path is right; if you have a gambler’s mind, the second is right. If your inner being is old, the first path is right; if it is young, the second is right. If the mind is feminine, the first is right; if masculine, the second is right.

But each must understand his own life-situation: where he stands, how he is, and what will be suitable for him. If you choose a path contrary to your nature, your time and energy will be wasted. Therefore the utility of the master. He can not only give the path; he can also discern what is appropriate for you.

That is why in ancient days a master would whisper the formula of practice into each seeker’s ear; he would give the mantra into the ear. It was private, particular to that person—his path. That mantra was not to be told to anyone. Because you do not know whether it will suit someone else; it might even harm someone; for another it might be beneficial.

So the one who has transcended all the states of life, who can look back upon the whole expanse, who can enter your inner being, who can know the present condition of your mind, who can rightly recognize your past imprintings and decide what future will be easy for you—without such a one, stepping onto the path is always risky.
Second question:
Osho, in the Gita Krishna forbids conduct that goes against society and scripture. But by that rule society will become a mere line-follower. Perhaps that is why Hindu society has been stuck in the status quo and rotting for centuries. This tendency will only increase obscurantism, making reform, change, and revolution impossible! Please shed light on this.
It is essential to understand this.

First thing: whatever Krishna is saying in the Gita is not a plan for social reform; it is not a blueprint for improving society. It is a proposal for the individual’s inner revolution. And these two are very different.

If a person wants to move toward inner revolution, it is right that he not get entangled in futile disturbances. Energy is limited, time is limited, and the questions of life and society are infinite. They are never going to end.

For thousands of years society has existed; thousands of transformations have been attempted, thousands of social revolutions have occurred—and yet society still rots. You change one thing and another arises. Change the second, a third stands up. Solve one problem, and your solution gives birth to ten more. Society’s problems are never going to end.

Hindus understood very deeply that society will keep flowing and problems will remain. Why? Because society is made of hundreds of millions, of billions of people. And those billions are full of ignorance, full of madness, full of derangement. A society made of such people can never be healthy. Illness will remain its hallmark until all these people become enlightened.

A society of Buddhas would be beyond problems. Our society never can be. And whatever we do—on one side we fix, on ten sides we break.

Two hundred years ago thinkers all over the world believed that if education increased, heaven would arrive on earth. Education has increased. The whole world has moved onto the path of schooling. Most people are now educated. But the troubles that have come because of education—those social reformers two hundred years ago had no inkling of them.

Now education itself is a source of unrest. And great thinkers like D. H. Lawrence even suggested that for a hundred years we should shut all universities, stop all education, only then might our problems be solved—otherwise not.

Today the university has become the fortress of all our madness and turmoil. All the disturbances are sprouting from there. We thought education would bring heaven. But the people we educated are turning society into a worse hell. We thought education would move people toward truth, religion, and ethics. But education is making people merely cunning and dishonest.

For the educated person it becomes difficult to be honest, because he begins to calculate, to be clever. As intelligence grows, so does cunning. With more cunning he becomes more skilled at exploiting others. As education increases, ambition increases. With more ambition, he fights more. Contentment decreases, discontent thickens.

He sees: if another man with an M.A. has become a chief minister and I, also with an M.A., remain a clerk—why should I stay a clerk? And it may be that a third-class M.A. has become a minister while a first-class M.A. is a clerk—how will he tolerate that? Unrest will arise.

People thought that if poverty decreased, society would become happy. In America, poverty has vanished to a great extent—at least for half the population. But that half which is beyond poverty is sunk in great misery.

Until now we thought: with wealth will come happiness. But those who have wealth today have lost happiness in a way no poor person ever did. The poor man had one hope: one day, if he had money, happiness would be his. Those who have money today have lost even that hope. They have wealth but did not find happiness. Now the future is absolutely dark; there is nothing left worth attaining; no hope left to live.

So America is committing the most suicides. More and more people are in a state of erasing themselves. What is the point of living? Let poverty vanish, let illiteracy vanish, let disease vanish, let everyone become healthy—but even then, what will a person do with health?

I have heard that Tamerlane once summoned an astrologer. He was very sleepy by nature. He asked the astrologer, “What is the matter? Is there something in my stars, in my fate, in my horoscope that makes me so sleepy? Even if I sleep all night, I feel sleepy all day. This is a bad sign. The scriptures say such lethargy is a mark of tamasic tendencies.”

The astrologer said, “Majesty, nothing could be more welcome than this. You should sleep twenty-four hours a day. It is an absolutely auspicious sign. The scriptures are at fault.”

Tamerlane didn’t believe him. “The scriptures cannot be wrong—what are you saying?” The astrologer replied, “The scriptures were not written about people like you. For a man like you to sleep twenty-four hours is a blessing. The longer you are awake, the more disturbance there is. You can do nothing but create upheaval. It is God’s great grace that you sleep. Your being alive is dangerous; your dying would be auspicious.”

It depends on the person. As for what you are saying—that the whole world should become healthy—do not imagine that peace will arrive if these very unruly people become healthy. A man who, when sick, could be satisfied with one wife—once he is healthy, he won’t be satisfied with ten. When sick, he could tolerate things, put up with them, persuade himself; when healthy, he will leap with a sword, neither able to tolerate nor endure.

If man is wrong, his becoming healthy is dangerous. If man is wrong, his becoming educated is dangerous. If man is wrong, his becoming wealthy is dangerous. And men are wrong, and society is the sum of wrong men. In our reckoning society will always be the sum of wrong men, because whoever becomes right—in the Hindu arithmetic—does not return.

As Krishna or Buddha or Mahavira become auspicious, it is their last life. They do not return. The auspicious person disappears from life; the inauspicious returns.

This prison we call the world is a place for the bad. The good spontaneously slip out of it. The bad return to it, and become more and more seasoned and skilled in evil. The more they return, the more expert they become.

Therefore society can never become wholly auspicious. This may sound discouraging, but that is the fact.

And the interest of Krishna, Buddha, Mahavira, Jesus is not in society; it is in the individual—because only he can be changed. And if the individual intends an inner revolution, it is right that he not fall into futile entanglements: abolishing the dowry system; educating Adivasis; improving the lot of Harijans; serving lepers. None of these works is bad; all are good. But how much life do you have? If you get involved in these, you will be finished. Neither Harijans end, nor lepers end, nor the sick end—you end. New kinds of Harijans will be born.

Russia tried everything, made a revolution. The old worker vanished; a new worker appeared. Earlier there were rich and poor; now there are “government people” and “non-government people.” The difference is the same. Then too someone sat on another’s chest while someone lay on the ground; now too someone is on the ground and someone on the chest. Names change; the disease remains.

One who is committed to inner revolution should save himself from useless disturbance—that is Krishna’s meaning. He says: a person of divine qualities does not cause needless obstruction to the rules of scripture and society. He accepts them as the rules of the game and fulfills them. He says, “If the rule is to keep left, I keep left.” He does not raise a quarrel that, “No, I will keep right.” He does not invest his life in such things. They have no real value. And such a person can make right use of his life and energy.

And here is the great, seemingly paradoxical point: through the life of such a person something does happen in society. But it does not happen directly. He does not go to change society; he changes himself. Yet the consequences of his change reverberate in society.

What thousands of revolutionaries cannot effect in society, a single self-realized person can. But it is not his wish; he is not trying for it. His very presence, the light of his life, transforms many. But that transformation is very gentle. It is not a “revolution.” It is a very gentle evolution. There is no noise. It happens quietly. It happens in silence.

Buddha does not make a social revolution, yet after Buddha the world becomes different. The presence of Buddhas, the happening of their knowing, transforms human consciousness somewhere deep within; no one even notices. It is like a flower opening silently and its fragrance spreading in the air. No band plays, no drums beat; there is no hullabaloo; silently the fragrance fills the breeze. The flower may wither, but the fragrance continues to drift. For centuries people are bathed in that perfume and transformed by it.

But these are altogether different trajectories. One who becomes eager to change society is not eager to change himself. If you want to understand deeply, in truth we are eager to change others because we do not want to change ourselves. It is a kind of escape, a strategy.

So we look for mistakes all over the world to change them; we see none in ourselves. And we will not see any in ourselves, because the world indeed contains plenty of mistakes.

And if I decide that until the world changes I will not pay attention to myself, then even if I labor for infinite births, I will never find time to attend to myself. This world is never going to change completely.

Therefore, quietly accepting society is not obscurantism; it is an act of great intelligence. And this does not mean that no revolution happens through such a person. Only through such a person does revolution happen. But it is indirect. It is not a revolution like Lenin’s, Marx’s, or Mao’s. It is the revolution of Mahavira, Krishna, and Buddha. It happens very quietly.

And whatever is truly important in this world happens quietly. Whatever is futile—trash and rubbish—makes a lot of noise. Whatever is important, history cannot record. Whatever is disturbance and tumult, history records.

I was reading about a Jewish fakir. He would often tell people, “I read only two books: one of God and one of the Devil.” Many times people asked, “God’s book we understand—the Talmud, the Jewish scripture; that you must read. But the Devil’s book? What is that?” He would laugh and dodge the question.

When he died, the first thing his disciples did was to open his little room to find “the Devil’s book.” Two shelves were hung there: one labeled “God’s book”—the Talmud lay there; and “the Devil’s book”—the daily newspaper. No other book—just the daily paper! Those were the only two he read.

Newspapers become history. If there had been newspapers in Jesus’ time, they would not even have carried the news of Jesus. No book mentions Jesus, except the little that his disciples wrote—the Bible; otherwise, no mention at all.

There is no mention of Mahavira in history books. That great happening occurs as though outside history! History takes no notice of it. Because it is so gentle, it wounds no one. No one is killed, no bullets are fired, no strikes happen, no gheraos take place. There is no uproar around it, so the event passes quietly. But its effects keep echoing for centuries.

History is garbage.

The American millionaire Henry Ford would sometimes say things of great worth—short sentences, but of great value. His very famous little saying: “History is bunk”—absolute junk. And whatever is important lies outside history, outside time; it is happening silently.

So it is not that no revolution happens through such a person; only through such a person does it happen. But it is a silent revolution.
Third question:
Osho, in the Gita the signs or qualities of one who has attained the divine wealth are described. By cultivating them one by one, does divinity become available? Or, when divinity is attained, do these qualities come of themselves like flowers?
Both are true together. They happen simultaneously.

The question is like asking which comes first, the chicken or the egg. Philosophers have debated it for centuries. It sounds childish, yet it is complex—and nothing definitive has been decided. Whatever you conclude seems wrong. If you say the chicken comes first, it feels wrong—how could there be a chicken without an egg? If you say the egg comes first, it feels wrong—how could there be an egg unless a chicken laid it? Where is the mistake? The mistake is in taking chicken and egg as two separate things. The egg is one state of the chicken, the chicken is another state of the egg. The egg expands into the chicken; the chicken contracts back into the egg. They are not two things.

A seed becomes a tree; the tree bears seeds again. The seed and the tree are not two. The tree is the seed unfolded; the seed is the tree enfolded. There is a rhythm—expansion and contraction. Day follows night and night follows day; birth is followed by death and death by birth. These are not two events, but a circle.

So the chicken and egg are not two; the egg is the chicken concealed, the chicken is the egg revealed—and they exist together. If someone tries to decide which comes first, he may drive himself mad and still never find the answer.

Many questions are like this one. So too with your question: Do the divine qualities, practiced one by one, bring divinity? Or, if divinity is attained, do these qualities bloom like flowers?

These two are not separate. If the qualities are perfected, divinity is attained—because divinity is hidden in them. If divinity is attained, the qualities appear—because divinity cannot manifest without them. Qualities and divinity are not two; the qualities are essential limbs of divinity.

Therefore, begin wherever you wish. Bring home a chicken and the eggs will come. Bring home an egg and it will become a chicken. Only don’t sit and think endlessly about what to bring. Bring either. Otherwise, you may go on thinking until both the chicken and the egg are lost.

Practice the qualities and you will find divinity flowering alongside them. Or, forget about the qualities and set your heart on divinity. Both ways are possible.

Those who start with qualities must begin by changing conduct—your outer circumference. If you change what you do, the qualities crystallize. Those who start with divinity must begin by changing the inner being—your center. If you change the center, conduct changes on its own.

Start where it is easier for you. Psychologists divide people into two types: extroverts and introverts. If you are extroverted—more attuned to the outer—then it will be appropriate to begin with the qualities, because the inner isn’t yet visible to you. If someone tells you to close your eyes and look within, you may say, “What is there to see inside? All that can be seen is outside.” Even with closed eyes, you will remember only outer things—friends, houses, events.

The scientist is an extrovert; the warrior is an extrovert. The poet and painter are introverts; their world is inside.

A famous Dutch painter, Van Gogh, could not sell his paintings; people found them incomprehensible. He would paint trees so huge they seemed to touch the sky; the moon small and dangling—trees going beyond the moon; he would color trees as no tree is colored—green trees in red! People said, “What are you doing?” He replied, “When I close my eyes, this is what I see. Whenever I look, trees look to me like the earth’s longing to touch the sky. When I close my eyes, I see the earth trying to reach the sky through trees—so my trees go up to the sky. What the earth cannot do, I do. This is how I see trees.”

That is the world of the introvert. If someone is introverted, he should begin with divinity. If he is extroverted, he should begin with conduct.

So begin either with the qualities or with divinity—but begin! The other will follow. Changing conduct, you will gradually move inward, because the roots of conduct are inside while only the branches are outside. Start by pruning branches, and sooner or later you will reach the roots.

If you start with the inner being, the roots are within but the branches are outside—you will reach the outer soon enough.

Outside and inside are two sides of the same coin. Neither is separate from the other. Start at either end and the other end will appear. But begin—don’t go on thinking. Many people only think.

Today a young man told me, “I think and think, and get so lost in thought that I cannot ever decide. Whatever I decide, the opposite also seems right. And until it is certain, how can I decide? But nothing becomes certain. The more I think, the harder it gets to decide.”

If you overthink, difficulties arise. If you only think, all your energy gets drained in thinking and no act is born of it. Remember: the wealth of life is attained through action, not by thought alone.

Thoughts are like dreams—foam on the ocean. They look precious from a distance, sparkling in sunlight; but when you grasp the foam, the bubbles burst and nothing remains.

Go a little deeper than the foam. Catch the wave beneath it. Deeper still, hold the ocean from which the wave arises. Only then is revolution and transformation possible.

Now let us come to the text.

“And O Partha, hypocrisy, arrogance and pride, as well as anger and harsh speech and ignorance—these are the marks of one endowed with demonic (asuri) wealth. Of these two kinds of wealth, the divine (daivi) leads to liberation and the demonic to bondage. Therefore, O Arjuna, do not grieve; you are endowed with divine wealth.

“And, O Arjuna, in this world the dispositions of beings are said to be of two kinds—one like the gods and the other like the demons. The divine disposition I have described to you at length; now hear from me, in detail, of the demonic.”

Hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy means to show yourself as what you are not; to present a face that is not your real face.

We all have masks, many of them, and we change them as needed. From morning to evening we use many faces, as circumstances demand. Slowly you can even forget who you are.

This is what has happened. If you ask yourself, “Who am I?” no answer comes. You have shown so many faces, taken so many forms, advertised yourself in so many ways, that you are confused about who you truly are. Is there any truth in me at all, or is everything deception? From morning to night we project what we are not.

Krishna lists among the divine qualities: truth and authenticity—being exactly as you are, whatever the consequences. In the demonic, there are many faces.

We read the story of Ravana, but perhaps its meaning escaped you: Ravana is dashanan—ten-faced. Rama has only one face. Rama is authentic; you can recognize him—no deception. Ravana is hard to recognize—many faces. Ten signifies “many,” the ultimate digit; beyond ten there are only combinations. Ten faces means countless masks; which is his real face? Ravana is the asura. As long as our inner state is demonic, we too have many faces; we too are ten-headed. This deceives others, yes—but worse, it deceives ourselves. We forget our own form.

Hypocrisy means deceiving others and ultimately falling into self-deception through that very deceiving.

The nature of a lie is such that to protect one lie, you must tell a thousand more. Soon the chain becomes so long you can no longer remember the first lie you told.

Another trait of lying: repeated often enough, it auto-hypnotizes you. Repeating a lie constantly, you begin to feel it must be true. Say a lie again and again and you yourself will doubt whether it is false or true—its imprint falls upon you.

I read of a man on trial for murder. Years of proceedings—lawyers’ arguments, witnesses’ testimonies—made the whole thing utterly confused. Finally, the judge, exhausted, asked the accused, “Please tell us what really happened.” The man said, “When I first came here, it was clear to me too. Now I am confused. After hearing my lawyer’s arguments, even I feel I didn’t do it, that perhaps I dreamt it. So don’t ask me. You decide.”

If you keep saying the same lie for years, you yourself cannot be sure whether it is a lie or the truth.

I once saw a signboard at a ghee shop in Kashi: “Real ghee sold here. Pure country-made ghee of Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, Punjab available. Cash reward of five hundred rupees to anyone who proves it fake.” Below, in red letters: “Such rewards have been paid here many times.”

That is our mind’s condition.

Hypocrisy means you are something within and try to show something else. But what you are will peep out from behind all your efforts; it cannot be fully concealed. Others can often see it even if you cannot.

Often, what others say about you is more accurate than what you say about yourself. Ninety percent of the time, others see in you what you cannot, because you are absorbed in your own deception; yet others can see through the thin veil.

The more hypocritical a person is, the more layers he carries. Each layer requires new layers to protect it. This is suffering.

Truth has one convenience: it requires no memory. Lies need to be remembered; lying requires skill. A simple man can live in truth; he need not remember anything. Truth is truth; you can be asked ten years later and it is the same. But a liar must remember what he said and how many lies he told to support that first lie. Lying demands a powerful memory. Hence, the more educated and logically trained a person is, the more skilled he can become at lying—he can manipulate, construct new lies.

Mulla Nasruddin said to his son, “We can no longer tolerate your lying!” The boy said, “Me—and lying?” To demonstrate, with a friend present, Nasruddin said, “All right, tell one lie now and I’ll give you one rupee.” The boy replied, “You said five rupees!” No further lying was needed.

In such a state of mind, how will you search for the Divine? The search is impossible. Even if the Divine searched for you, he would not find you—where to find you? Wherever you seem to be, you are not; where you are, you yourself don’t know, nor have you told anyone.

In Judaism there is a view that man cannot find God; God finds man. Someone asked the Hasidic mystic Baal Shem Tov, “If God searches for us, why hasn’t he found us yet?” He replied, “Where should he find you? Wherever you say you are, there you are not. By the time he arrives, you have slipped elsewhere. He follows you, but you are like quicksilver—scattering, with no address, no identity. How is he to recognize you?”

I heard of a bank recruiting a chief cashier. After interviews, the directors asked the managing director whom he had selected. When the man stood up, all were dismayed—eyes askew, teeth protruding, crooked nose, limping gait. “You found no one else?” they asked. He said, “He is perfect. If he ever runs away, he’ll be easy to catch anywhere in the world—his identity is unmistakable!”

You have no identity. Even God would not know where to catch hold of you.

This is the greatest calamity of hypocrisy: you lose your recognizability. That is its first demonic mark.

Arrogance and pride.

This will take some care, because we usually use the two as synonyms. Dictionaries treat them the same, but Krishna uses them differently. Let us call arrogance the pride that is unwarranted, and pride the arrogance that is warranted. Both are sins, both are demonic. For example: a man who is not beautiful imagines he is and struts—that is arrogance. Another man is beautiful, knows it and struts—that is pride. Both are demonic.

The first is easy to see as wrong. The second deceives because it is “right,” yet still wrong. What does it matter whether you are beautiful or not? What matters is that you think yourself beautiful. If an intelligent man struts that he is intelligent, it is as sinful as a fool strutting that he is intelligent. The real issue is the strutting—the stiffening of the ego.

There is another danger: he who is not intelligent but thinks he is may one day awaken; but the truly intelligent who thinks he is intelligent is hard to awaken—you cannot even prove him wrong. The real danger is to take oneself to be somebody and stiffen in it.

The demonic mind always considers itself somebody—whether it is or not. Ravana’s ego was not empty vanity; it was pride—there was substance to him, a great scholar. His stiffening was not baseless; thus it was even more dangerous. Ego brings you into conflict with the Divine. Ravana had to clash with Rama—this is symbolic: ego inevitably clashes with God.

When the ego melts, you become fluid, the wave softens and dissolves into the ocean—then union happens.

So never ask whether your ego is “right” or “wrong.” Ego is wrong. If it is baseless, call it arrogance; if it has a basis, call it pride. Krishna says both are marks of the demonic.

Anger and harsh speech.

They are linked: harsh speech is anger made audible. When anger is within, a dryness, a hardness enters your words. When love is within, a sweetness spreads in your speech. Speech carries the scent of your inner winds.

Harsh speech simply means the heart is stony inside. Sweet speech means the source from which the winds arise is cool and gentle.

Anger is a sign of the demonic; such a person is habitually angry—always looking for a mistake, a pretext, a peg on which to hang his anger. If no pretext is found, he manufactures one. If no one is available to be angry at, he will be angry at himself. His words will burn like arrows, wounding others.

“Anger and harsh speech, and ignorance—these are marks of the demonic wealth.”

Ignorance must be understood rightly. It does not mean illiteracy. One may be highly educated, a great pundit—like Ravana—well-informed. But it is information, not wisdom. Wisdom is what you have experienced yourself. Information is what others experienced and you merely collected.

Borrowed “knowledge” becomes erudition; firsthand knowing becomes insight.

Ignorance here means: whether you know much or little, you do not know yourself. You may know all the scriptures of the world, but you have no self-knowledge. Whatever you know is borrowed, stored in memory; it has not transformed your life. It has not burned you and refined you, broken you and made you anew. It has not been your death and your rebirth. It lies on you like dust, a layer—not entered your heart. You carry knowledge as weight, not as wings.

Ignorance here means not knowing oneself, being unfamiliar with one’s own nature.

“Of the two kinds of wealth, the divine leads to liberation, the demonic to bondage.”

The demonic will bind you—like a prison. Not one built by someone else, but one you yourself built. The divine will free you; walls fall and the open sky appears. You have wings, but if you have tied them, how can you fly? If you have not flown for long, you may even forget you have wings.

Eagles lay eggs on high trees. When the chicks hatch, they sit on the rim of the nest, look down, and tremble. They have wings but don’t know they can fly. The drop is so deep; a fall seems fatal. They see their parents soaring, yet cannot trust that they too can fly. So the eagle has to do something: however much she coaxes, they scuttle back into the nest. However much she soars to show them, they cling to the edge. Then she begins to dismantle the nest—twig by twig, all that she had painstakingly brought. The chicks retreat inward; the nest keeps disappearing. At the last, she snatches away the final piece—the chicks find themselves in the open sky, and in a single instant their wings spread and they begin to circle. In a day or two they are adept; they realize the open sky is theirs and the wings are theirs.

We are almost in the same condition. Someone is needed to pull down your nest, to give you a push. That is the meaning of a Master. Krishna is doing this for Arjuna. The whole Gita is to dismantle Arjuna’s house, his nest; to remind him that he has wings and can fly—to push him so he spreads his wings into the open sky.

“Of these two kinds of wealth, the divine leads to liberation and the demonic to bondage. Therefore, O Arjuna, do not grieve; you are endowed with divine wealth.”

Krishna is giving Arjuna confidence: do not be afraid, do not be sorrowful—divine wealth is yours. Just open your wings; the open sky is yours.

Why does he say Arjuna is endowed with divine wealth? Because Arjuna’s inquiry is divine. The very feeling that arises in Arjuna—“Why should I kill? Why descend into this orgy of violence? Even if I gain a kingdom and empire, what is the point?”—this dispassion toward greed, this indifference to empire, the inner shame at violence and killing—these are divine.

Arjuna says, “Let me renounce and go to the forest—that would be better.” He says, “These are my own people on both sides. If I gain the kingdom by killing them, the joy will be so solitary it will cease to be joy—joy is for sharing. Those for whom I seek the kingdom, who would rejoice to see me crowned—their corpses will be lying here. A happiness that cannot be shared with those I love—what meaning has it?”

This is divine. But the reasons he gives arise from ignorance—and that is natural. When the divine aspiration first awakens, its roots are still in our ignorance. We are ignorant; so even our divine longing bears the shade of ignorance.

Krishna tries to fill Arjuna with trust, to drop even the reasoning behind his feelings—because if the reasons are “right,” Arjuna will be caught. He says, “These are my people; therefore I fear killing them.” Half of that is divine, half demonic. The divine part is the distaste for violence; the demonic part is the attachment—“my people.” Had they been “others,” Arjuna would have cut them like a farmer harvests his field. He was no stranger to killing; he’d killed many without ever raising questions of soul, heaven, liberation. But those were not “his.” Here stand his teacher, Bhishma, his cousins—“my people.”

This “mine-ness” is ignorance. Not to kill is a divine feeling; not to kill because “they are mine” is tainted. Krishna wants that taint to fall away, yet for Arjuna to move toward divinity. “Who is mine and who is not? Either all are mine or none is.” Arjuna says, “It is not proper to kill them”—divine. But “I can kill them”—that is ignorance. Subtle, but true. To feel “I should not kill” is good; to believe “I can kill” is ignorance. At most you can harm the body—and the body is dead matter. The inner conscious being cannot be slain. The immortal cannot be killed.

Arjuna says violence is bad. But is violence possible? Violence as an act is not; only the intention of violence is. The intention is sinful; the idea that violence can be done is ignorance.

In Arjuna, divinity has awakened; but it is still lying on a demonic bed. The eyes are open, he has turned on his side, but he has not left the bed. That bed too must be left; that nest must be dismantled so Arjuna can soar free.

“O Arjuna, do not grieve; you are endowed with divine wealth. And, O Arjuna, in this world the dispositions of beings are of two kinds—divine and demonic. I have described the divine at length; now hear in detail of the demonic from me.”

Two dispositions of the same consciousness. Imagine a man bound—chains on his hands and feet. We cut his chains; now he stands free. Is he the same man or another? In one sense, the same—chains were not his nature; they were upon him. When the chains fall, his hands are unchanged. In another sense, he is not the same—now he is free to move, to choose direction, to act. A new freedom is born.

These are two states of the same person. So too with the two dispositions. The demonic binds; the divine frees. Both are states of the same consciousness. It is up to us which state we live in.

It is always hard to understand that we are bound by our own hands. We all want freedom, yet we have never inquired deeply into what freedom means. We want freedom, and we also want dependence—because dependence has its comforts, its securities.

In prison, a man is safer than anywhere else. Outside there may be riots, violence, trouble; inside, no accidents, no crashes—utter safety. Prison offers a security unknown outside. We all want security; therefore we build our own prisons. Freedom is risky; the open world is full of uncertainty. We want freedom but lack the courage to take risks.

A great Western thinker, Erich Fromm, wrote a precious book, Fear of Freedom (also known as Escape from Freedom). We all fear freedom. We say we want it, but we tremble. We clutch our nests like the eagle’s chick—so small before the vast sky; we do not trust ourselves.

So we seek dependencies: family, nation, caste, society. We want to lean on someone’s shoulder—and often the other is as weak as we are. But we feel reassured that we are not alone.

We lose freedom by our own hands and seek dependence by our own hands.

Mulla Nasruddin and his wife were quarreling. She said angrily, “Who told you to marry me? I wasn’t running after you!” Nasruddin said, “That’s obvious. A mouse-trap never runs after a mouse; the mouse goes into it by himself.”

Every cage in your life did not run after you; you sought it. There is a reason: safety within, less fear, more support; fewer risks. There is a boundary inside which there is light; beyond, darkness—and we fear the dark. To be free means to stand on your own feet, to make your own decisions.

Much of the world’s turmoil exists because many people seek slavery. Ninety-nine out of a hundred cannot live without a leader. Why the need for a leader? Because many cannot walk on their own. If someone is in front, they stop worrying—even if he leads them into a ditch. Leaders have always led into ditches, yet followers feel reassured: the man ahead must know. At least the responsibility is not ours.

After the Second World War, Hitler’s associates were tried. The man who organized the burning of millions—Eichmann—was on trial. He was, by conventional standards, a “good” man: faithful to his wife, regular in church, studied the Bible, did not drink or smoke, rose early, vegetarian. So was Hitler. Yet when asked, Eichmann said, “I was only obeying orders. Responsibility is not mine. Orders came from above; I executed them. I am just a follower, a soldier.”

People are weak; they need leaders. Leaders themselves do not know where they are going; the blind lead the blind. The only difference is that followers need someone in front, and leaders need someone behind. Leaders depend on followers; if no one walks behind, the leader feels lost. As long as people follow, he feels right. If people leave, his confidence evaporates. Clever leaders have another trick.

Mulla Nasruddin was once racing along on his donkey. Friends stopped him: “Where are you going in such a hurry?” He said, “Don’t ask me—ask the donkey. If I try to lead him, he balks and I am embarrassed in the marketplace. So I have a trick: wherever he goes, I go—then my prestige is intact and the donkey never suspects he can oppose his master.”

That is the art of leaders: they keep their finger on the followers’ pulse. Before the followers turn, the leader turns. Followers want socialism? The leader proclaims socialism. They want poverty eradicated? He promises that. Followers hear their own voice from his mouth and follow.

Some people cannot walk unless someone is in front; some cannot walk unless someone follows. Both are dependent.

A free person looks neither ahead nor behind; he walks on his own feet. This is difficult because you cannot seek support elsewhere nor shift responsibility. All responsibility is yours. Only one with such courage becomes free. Neither leaders nor followers are free. Freedom is the greatest risk in this world.

Krishna says: the demonic wealth binds, the divine wealth liberates. Therefore, O Arjuna, do not grieve; you are endowed with divine wealth.

That’s all for today.