Geeta Darshan #5

Sutra (Original)

पञ्चैतानि महाबाहो कारणानि निबोध मे।
सांख्ये कृतान्ते प्रोक्तानि सिद्धये सर्वकर्मणाम्‌।। 13।।
अधिष्ठानं तथा कर्ता करणं च पृथग्विधम्‌।
विविधाश्च पृथक्चेष्टा दैवं चैवात्र पञ्चमम्‌।। 14।।
शरीरवाक्‌मनोभिर्यत्कर्म प्रारभते नरः।
न्याय्यं वा विपरीतं वा पञ्चैते तस्य हेतवः।। 15।।
तत्रैवं सति कर्तारमात्मानं केवलं तु यः।
पश्यत्यकृतबुद्धित्वान्न स पश्यति दुर्मतिः।। 16।।
यस्य नाहंकृतो भावो बुद्धिर्यस्य न लिप्यते।
हत्वापि स इमॉंल्लोकान्न हन्ति न निबध्यते।। 17।।
Transliteration:
pañcaitāni mahābāho kāraṇāni nibodha me|
sāṃkhye kṛtānte proktāni siddhaye sarvakarmaṇām‌|| 13||
adhiṣṭhānaṃ tathā kartā karaṇaṃ ca pṛthagvidham‌|
vividhāśca pṛthakceṣṭā daivaṃ caivātra pañcamam‌|| 14||
śarīravāk‌manobhiryatkarma prārabhate naraḥ|
nyāyyaṃ vā viparītaṃ vā pañcaite tasya hetavaḥ|| 15||
tatraivaṃ sati kartāramātmānaṃ kevalaṃ tu yaḥ|
paśyatyakṛtabuddhitvānna sa paśyati durmatiḥ|| 16||
yasya nāhaṃkṛto bhāvo buddhiryasya na lipyate|
hatvāpi sa imaॉṃllokānna hanti na nibadhyate|| 17||

Translation (Meaning)

These five, O mighty-armed—learn from me the causes।
In Sankhya’s final teaching, declared for the success of every act।। 13।।

The base, and the doer; the instruments of varied kinds।
Distinct and manifold efforts; and the Divine here as the fifth।। 14।।

Whatever act a man begins by body, speech, or mind।
Rightful or contrary—these five are its causes।। 15।।

Thus, when this is so, he who deems the Self alone the doer।
From untrained understanding—he sees not; his judgment is unsound।। 16।।

He whose ego-sense is absent, whose intellect is unstained।
Though he should slay these worlds, he slays not, nor is he bound।। 17।।

Osho's Commentary

Now the sutra:
O mighty-armed, for the accomplishment of all actions, five causes are declared in the doctrine of Sankhya—hear them well from me.
In this matter, the base, the doer, the various instruments, the manifold different activities, and, as the fifth, the divine factor are said to be the causes.

Krishna says there are five causes—five bases—behind all events. Nothing happens without a base. There is:
- a base (adhisthana) for the event,
- a doer (karta),
- instruments (karanani),
- striving or effort (cheshta),
- and as the fifth, the divine factor—fate, the accumulated actions of many births (daiva).

These five are the bases of karma.

Whatever action a person performs by mind, speech, or body—whether in accord with scripture or against it—these five are its causes.

Yet, even so, the man who, because of impure understanding, sees the pure Self as the doer in that matter is dull-witted; he does not see the truth.

The causes are there—five—but you are outside them. If an event occurs, it cannot be without cause. If it occurs, there will be a doer; there will be effort; prior impressions will be standing behind. For any event these five supports are needed. And yet you are outside these five. You are the witness—the seer.

Hunger arises: the body provided the base. Hunger arises—and you take it as hunger because you have known hunger as hunger before. If it were to arise for the first time, you could not recognize it as hunger; you’d think there was a pain in the belly—anything—but not hunger. Even on the first day, the newborn—on the very first moment—when hunger arises, he experiences it and searches for the mother’s breast. This is news that the breast has been sought many times before; otherwise how would one search? Past impressions are needed.

How does the child know it is hunger? How recognize it as hunger? How know that the breast will fulfill it? Why does his hand move toward the breast? How does he drink milk—he has never drunk before? Hence, daiva: the past—the entire past—works from behind.

Hunger arises; the body gives the base; the samskara recognizes it; then you make effort. Because hunger has arisen, effort must be made. Whether you go to beg, to the shop, to steal—there will be effort; whether in accord with religion or against it—effort will be there.

When you make effort, there must be a doer. Without a doer, how would there be effort? The mind will do. The mind will think: What shall I do? How shall I get bread today—by stealing, by begging, by going as a guest, by earning? The mind becomes the doer. And whatever tools—whatever means—you gather bread with, those are the instruments.

These five; you are the sixth.

Krishna says: whoever takes himself to be drowned in these five is dull-witted. You are outside these five; you are the one who sees these five.

Hunger arises—it does not arise to you. You see it; you recognize that hunger has arisen. Hunger is outside you—away from you. It happens around you; it does not happen in you.

When hunger arises, the mind gets busy. The mind too is outside you. It is needed; without mind, hunger would remain and you would not even know it—what would you do—die? The mind searches for means; hands and feet move; instruments are gathered: “Bring flour, bring water, light the fire; arrange to cook.”

In all this happening, you remain outside. Your being is that of a witness. You are only the seer.

Thus, though there are these five causes, if, because of impure understanding, you take the pure Self to be the doer, you are dull—you do not see reality.

And, Arjuna, the one in whose inner being the feeling “I am the doer” is not, and whose intelligence is untainted—such a person, even slaying all these people, in truth neither kills nor is bound by sin.

Krishna says: if, outside these five, you recognize yourself—which is in fact your very being; it only needs recognition, awareness—if you take yourself, know yourself, recognize yourself as other than these five, then whatever you do, no bondage of sin accrues to you. Then while eating, you fast; while speaking, silence; while walking, unmoving; while doing, non-doer; in the world and yet outside it. Because the witness is always outside; he is not smeared.

What is the nature of the witness? He is unsmeared; he does not drown in anything. You cannot drown him. He always remains outside. He will run a shop in the market and not be drowned. He will be absorbed in action and yet within one element will remain unabsorbed. This art of remaining unsmeared—this is religion.

Therefore Krishna says, Arjuna: if such becomes your state—if you recognize that all karma belongs to these five and you are the non-doer—then even if all these people are slain by you, you are not bound by sin. For you have done nothing: it happened, it was not “done.” The event did occur; causes were there, instruments were there, bases were there; but you remained outside.

That person, even after killing all these people, in truth neither kills—
because when the very feeling of a killer is absent within, how can we say he truly kills? He only acts the part of killing—
nor is he bound by sin.

This is India’s deepest discovery. No religion of the world has reached the witness in this manner. Great religions have arisen, but they stop at the doer: “Do good, don’t do evil.” The Ten Commandments of the Jews or the Christians are all based on doing: don’t steal, don’t be violent; be compassionate, be merciful. Mahavira’s words too are bound to doing: don’t be violent, don’t possess. All good, but one step lower—standing on doing; the doer is not dissolved.

Krishna speaks the ultimate. Beyond this there is nowhere to go; beyond this, existence itself is transcended. This is the last step. Beyond the witness you cannot go. Witness means: you have reached the ultimate summit. You cannot be the witness of the witness. You can see all things in the world; you cannot see yourself. The self is the seer—always the seer; you can never turn it into the seen. The seer cannot be made an object.

Krishna is saying: even if these people are killed through you, they are not truly killed—because one who has known the witness has also known that the inner element is immortal. Even while cutting down these people, he will know: I am cutting only the body—I am not killing them. No one truly dies.

According to Krishna, violence is impossible. Death does not happen; then how can violence be? Violence does not happen because you killed someone; it happens only because you think you killed. Does anyone die because you kill? It is like snatching someone’s clothes—does he die? He will buy new clothes. You killed someone: you snatched a body; that life will find another body. A new body will be found; perhaps the old body had become worn out—you did him a favor. As one changes houses, so bodies are changed.

No one dies by your killing; therefore, in truth, violence does not happen—cannot happen. And while killing, you are not the doer. The act is happening; the causes are present; you stand outside. That is why I say: Krishna’s sutra turns life into acting.

You are an actor, not a doer. Life is a great stage; on it you perform many roles. What has been given to you—what you have found to be given—you complete, without becoming smeared.

Think on this a little, practice it a little—and the fragrance of sannyas will begin to descend into your life.

Therefore I do not tell you to leave house, household, children, family. Leaving them has no meaning. If the “leaver” has not been dropped, then nothing has been dropped.

Remain where you are—every place is the same. Remain where you are; change the way of living. And you will be amazed: it’s only a small shift in manner. And this inner shift need not be visible outside. No one will know; not a whisper. Yet your life will be transformed from the roots.

You are a husband—take it as a role. There is no need to run away from your wife. Just take it as acting. Do the husband’s work as skillfully as you can. You are a wife—do the wife’s work skillfully. It is acting—do it skillfully. Do not be smeared.

There is no need to tell anyone; no need for anyone to know. Slide within. Let all work go on as it does: hands will move, the broom will sweep; the husband will come—his feet will be washed; the husband will come—flowers will be brought from the market. Everything will go on just the same; not a hair’s difference is needed. Within, something will shift; someone will step back; the inner house will become empty. The doer will be gone.

And when the doer is not within, such a silence descends into life that nothing can break it. Such deep peace comes that the whole world may be in uproar—no difference is made. In the midst of storm and whirlwind, within you all remains quiet. Success or failure; happiness or sorrow; loss or gain; life or death—no difference is made. By mastering just this: you learned to step back—then nothing makes a difference.

Try it a little in life. It is a very unique experiment, very full of flavor. And from it a spring of bliss begins to gush that you cannot keep accounts of; you yourself will smile: “What is happening? It was so simple!”

You come home and pat your son’s back—don’t pat it as a father; pat it as the actor-father in a play. And the delight is: the pat will be better; the son will be more pleased. Nowhere will any snag arise; nowhere will any obstacle arise because of you—and the essence of your life will begin to be fulfilled.

If you come onto and pass off this stage as an actor comes and goes, then at the time of death your death will be as the curtain falling. There will be no pain. There will be the feeling of having completed an act well; a sense of moving toward rest: the work is done, God’s call has come—let us return. The curtain has fallen.

Goethe, a great German dramatist and poet, lived all his life in the experience of drama; and slowly, from that very experience, he came upon the depth we call witness-attitude. Play upon play—slowly the whole of life began to appear to him like a play. When Goethe died, these were his last words: he opened his eyes and said, “Look—now the curtain falls!” It was the language of a playwright, and there was great joy on his face, a sense of blessedness: a work completed skillfully—the curtain falls. Then death is the curtain falling, and life is play—lila.

Krishna says to Arjuna: just understand this much. There is no need to run from this great war. And there is nowhere to run—wherever you go there is war. Life is a vast struggle. There the small fish is eaten by the big. There is no way around it.

Perhaps this is God’s appointed play—that in this war you awaken; that you go beyond this war. Remain merely the instrument; let Him do what He wills. Let His winds blow—just let them pass through. Do not obstruct; do not come in between—and all is accomplished. Without going anywhere, all is attained. Without taking a single step, the destination comes home.

Witness-consciousness is the key. Begin to practice it a little. This is the supreme meditation. You will forget—and forget again—then remember again. While eating, do it as though in a play. The play is big, granted; long—seventy, eighty years—but still a play.

And it does occur to you often enough: “What a play is going on!” But again and again you forget. You cannot hold the remembrance; awareness slips from your hands. Let it not slip. If you can master just this one small thing—this small word, “witness”—all the scriptures are contained in it. This vast life spread out—wherever you go, stand and look as though watching a play.

Mulla Nasruddin went to see a play. An actor was acting very skillfully. Many times in the play he embraces his wife and kisses her. Mulla’s wife, sitting beside him, took his hand and said, “Mulla, you never love me like that.” Mulla said, “That is acting, lady; don’t pay it too much attention.” The wife said, “It isn’t just acting; in real life too they are husband and wife, acting the roles of husband and wife.” Mulla said, “Then this actor is astonishing—that he kisses his own wife with such enchantment!”

To kiss your own wife with enchantment becomes very difficult; for that, great acting skill is needed. And everything turns to your benefit.

In the East, we made things stable. We did not give life too much freedom—because freedom wastes time, and valuable experience does not come close. If you change wives every few months, this game—this acting—will never happen; you will always be excited. But one wife for forty, fifty years—everything becomes steady; the excitability is lost. In that unexcited state, things begin to appear like acting; you can see through them more skillfully.

We made things stable for this very reason: so the eye could see through clearly. If scenes keep changing day and night, you cannot descend deeply into any one scene. The East created a very steady life-structure in which little changed.

Consider: if the Ram Lila changed its story every year, it wouldn’t feel like the Ram Lila. Each time you would rush there excited.

Consider: you have to watch the same film twenty-five times. You see it today, tomorrow, the day after. Today there is excitement; tomorrow it is gone—you already know what will happen. The day after, it is utterly flat; you begin to doze. By the fourth day, you sleep comfortably: “What is there to know? I know it all.” If you must watch the same film for twenty-five days, you become free of the film—completely free. But if it is a new film each day, excitement remains; the mind lusts for the new.

The West has built a changing society that changes daily; hence in the West, restlessness remains till the last breath. Even at the point of death, people behave as if still young—it amazes us.

I asked a sannyasin once—he said his father was ill and very worried; could I help? I asked: what is his worry? He has plenty of money; he is eighty-five. The worry is: he has a wife—and a girlfriend. At eighty-five—a girlfriend! There is quarrel and fuss; the girlfriend won’t tolerate the wife. He is eighty-five, the girlfriend twenty-five.

This eighty-five-year-old has never become eighty-five. At twenty-five one can understand; at eighty-five—no. But in the West it is understandable; nothing stands in the way. Life quivers; nothing is still. When a river is ruffled, even a shallow river’s bed is hard to see; when it is still, without ripples, the bottom of even a deep river can be seen.

We created a still life. There was a secret behind it. We were intent on making every person a witness. Our effort was that, by watching life, you come to understand it is only a play; that you begin to see through it: behind every scene, the seer; behind every body, the soul; behind every event, the hand of God.

Hence we made everything steady, so that the trembling of waves does not obstruct vision; so everything becomes clear.

Witness is the key—the great key. Drop the Vedas, drop the Upanishads, forget the Gita—if this little two-syllabled word, sakshi, “witness,” remains, you can give birth to all the scriptures within. For the sole teaching of all the scriptures is just this much: do not remain the doer—be the seer.

Begin it a little. From my explanations you will not grasp it. This is not a matter for explaining and understanding; it is not of writing and reading—it is of seeing.

Enough for today.

Questions in this Discourse

First question:
Osho, by listening to you every day for years, the state of no-thought has grown, silence has deepened, love has sprouted, and there are even a few showers of gratitude. But on many occasions it seems that the edge of intellect and ego has also become sharper and subtler. Having both of these happen together brings surprise as well as concern. Please shed light on this state. Can this happen to a seeker?
In every dimension of life, the opposites grow together. Death walks with birth. Every birthday is also a new step in death. Labor is accompanied by fatigue, the longing for rest. Along with love, hatred clings like a shadow.

Opposites are joined. The higher the mountain peak, the deeper the abyss. As the summit rises, the ravine deepens. The height of the peak and the depth of the gorge are two sides of the same coin.

The more intelligent you become, the more you will see your foolishness within. With knowing comes the awareness of not-knowing.

As you become silent, your capacity to be disturbed also increases. Because the more silent you are, the more sensitive you become. In that sensitivity, even a small incident can create a deep upheaval.

The healthier you are, the greater also is your capacity to fall ill. A dead man cannot be sick; only the living fall ill. And you may have observed a strange fact: often a very healthy person dies from a single illness. An unhealthy person endures many ailments and still goes on. One who has never been ill may depart at the very first illness; one who has been tied to the bed for years is not carried off by anything.

The healthier a person is, the greater his capacity to be unwell. The higher you climb, the stronger the fear of falling. If you never climb high, where is the question of the fear of falling?

We even have a word, yoga-bhrashta—fallen from yoga. Have you ever heard of bhoga-bhrashta—fallen from indulgence? There is no way to be “corrupted” by indulgence. Only a yogi can fall.

One who rises can fall; one who keeps crawling on the ground—where can he fall to? So these two will go together. And a seeker will need greater and greater care, day by day.

Do not think that as your practice goes forward you will no longer need caution. The need for caution will increase. The realized one is alert every single moment.

Lao Tzu says, the man to whom Tao has become available walks so cautiously as if surrounded at every moment by enemies. He places each step with thought and care, as one who enters an icy river in winter.

The adept’s caution becomes ultimate, final. He no longer has to make an effort for caution—but the caution does become profound.

So the higher you rise, the greater the danger of falling. The ravine will grow larger, and even more care will be needed.

There is nothing surprising in this; it is perfectly natural. If love sprouts, hatred stands alongside. Now be a little careful. Earlier, when love had not sprouted, you lived mistaking hatred itself for love. Now that love has sprouted, for the first time you have become aware of what hatred is. And now if you fall, it will hurt deeply.

If there is a little drizzle of gratitude, complaint too will start to grow. Because as you begin to meet the divine, you will be filled with an even greater urge to ask. Today there is a meeting—there is gratitude. Tomorrow if it does not happen, complaint will begin. Along with gratitude there is the attached ravine of complaint. Be careful. Let gratitude grow, and be alert about complaint. Complaint will grow—but do not fall into that ravine.

The presence of a ravine does not mean you must fall. As the peak rises, the ravine deepens; this does not mean you have to tumble into it. You only need to increase your caution.

A beggar sleeps without worry. An emperor cannot sleep. A beggar has nothing to be stolen; an emperor has much. The emperor must sleep cautiously. A little care is needed; only then can he protect his wealth, otherwise it will be lost.

As you go deeper, your treasure increases. The fear of losing it also increases; the possibility of loss increases. There will be chances for it to be stolen, to be looted. It is not necessary that you allow it to be looted. Protect it; remain alert.

The difficulty arises because you think that once meditation is attained, once samadhi is attained, then caution and awareness and all these “troubles” are finished. Then you will pull a blanket over yourself and rest at ease.

Do not fall into this error. You will indeed become at ease, but there is never the luxury of being un-alert. You will have to remain alert. Make caution your very nature. Let it become so much your state of being that you do not have to do it—it goes on happening. Let alertness become your natural, effortless process.

Otherwise this difficulty will arise: as you listen to me, understanding grows; along with understanding, the ego also grows—“I have begun to understand.” Beware of that noose. If you get caught, understanding will diminish.

It is a very subtle game, a delicate world, a fragile journey. Naturally, when understanding comes, the mind says, “I have understood.” The moment you say, “I have understood,” understanding is gone—you have fallen into the ravine. Because “I have understood” is ego. Ego belongs to unknowing. “I know”—arrogance has arisen; arrogance belongs to ignorance. If arrogance arises, knowing is lost at that very moment. Only the thought of having known remains; the knowing is gone.

Knowing is egoless. Where there is ego, knowing is lost. Therefore you will have to keep awareness every moment. As an acrobat walks on a rope stretched between two abysses, so you must walk. Balance at every moment. Balance at each step. One day such a moment will come when balancing becomes your nature. You will not have to balance, and yet you will remain balanced. But that moment is not yet.

So there is no need either for surprise—because this is natural; opposites grow together—or for worry—because this is natural; opposites move together. Understanding this truth, let the peak grow, but keep guarding your steps; do not fall into the ravine.

The ravine’s invitation will become more and more compelling. Its call will grow attractive. The ravine will no longer seem like a ravine; it will appear like heaven. The higher you go, the more the abyss will call, “Come, here is rest.” Be careful of that. And if you do fall, then as quickly as possible, get up and set out again on your journey.

Falling will happen too—just as a small child walks: he gets up and falls, gets up and falls; then slowly the falling stops. Now you do not fall. Once you too were a small child, and you fell.

“Siddha” means only this much: now he has become skillful in walking; now he does not fall. But once he too used to fall. For now you are still falling; one day the time will come in your life when you will not fall. But do not allow the ego to form. Do not let worry condense. Keep caution always. Do not even entertain the thought that caution is to be dropped someday. When it is ready to drop, it will drop—only when it has become your very nature. Before that, caution does not drop.
Second question: Osho, you say, “As He wills, let us become mere instruments; whatever role in life we have been given, let us fulfill it.” But letting what happens happen—i.e., flowing along with the body, mind, and ego—gives rise to suffering. So should we keep applying the principle of instrumentality even in relation to the body, mind, and ego, and go on suffering? How do we solve the riddle between the principle of instrumentality and the continuous reality of suffering?
Then you have not understood the meaning of instrumentality at all. The inner state of “I am merely an instrument” has not seized you. You are bringing in your cleverness. You are thinking: “We should be instruments wherever there is pleasure; and wherever there is pain, we will become the doer.” Because you do not want suffering.

To be an instrument means: if pain is given, You give it; Your pain is our good fortune—at least You gave something! If pleasure is given, You give it. We have no choice in the matter. We will undergo pain too, and pleasure too. Whatever You drop into our begging-bowl, we will accept with grateful wonder.

In pleasure, anyone is ready to be an instrument; for that, who needs to be accomplished! In pleasure, everyone agrees, “We are merely instruments.” Where there is all delight, what need is there to bring in the doer! The doer starts arriving where pain begins. Why? Because you want to remove pain. You do not accept pain. To remove it, you must bring in the remover—the doer. Pleasure is accepted; it is not to be removed. So there is no need to bring in the doer.

The day you accept pleasure and pain alike, that very day the doer will dissolve. Do not desire pleasure, do not cling to pleasure, and do not hate pain. Do not want to discard pain, do not want to grasp pleasure—and your doer will be lost. Then let whatever happens, happen. Then you are not there in the middle to think.

From your question it seems you are still standing in the middle, screening and sorting: “Then should we keep suffering?”

Who are you, if you have understood the feeling of instrumentality? Who is this that says, “Then shall we keep suffering?”

It is the doer who says, “We do not want to suffer.” In truth, you are accepting instrumentality in the hope that it will bring you a great deal of pleasure. You are mistaken. By accepting the attitude of instrumentality, pains will come and pleasures will come, but gradually neither pain remains pain nor pleasure remains pleasure. For one who accepts pain, how can pain remain pain?

The essential mark of pain is your refusal of it. It is something to be discarded. The mind does not want to embrace it. The day you embrace pain, you change its very nature; it becomes like pleasure.

The nature of pleasure is that you want to embrace it. But when you accept pleasure just as you accept pain—without giving it any special honor—its quality too changes.

For the wise, pleasure is not pleasure, pain is not pain. Gradually the distinction between pleasure and pain is lost. A moment comes when pleasure appears in the guise of pain, pain appears in the guise of pleasure—and you begin to go beyond both. That state beyond both is the state of the witness.

Become free of the doer, and you will become the witness.

Krishna’s whole message is of witnessing. Arjuna’s entire dilemma is that he cannot let go of being the doer. He says, “If this happens, it will not be right.” He is saying, “I will hold to my decision; I will remain the decider.” Instrumentality means: the Divine is the decider; who am I! Why should I come in between!

So do not even ask, “Should we go on suffering?” For lifetimes you have tried to avoid suffering; did it end? Until now it has not—one keeps on getting it. For lifetimes you have tried to attain pleasure; did you attain it? Until now you have not. It appears only somewhere in hope, like a rainbow.

Now change the arrangement of life. You have tried being the doer: neither did pain end, nor did pleasure arrive. Now try being a non-doer. Those who know say: as a non-doer, pain ended, pleasure ended—and what then arises we have called sat-chit-ananda, the supreme bliss.

That supreme bliss is beyond both pleasure and pain. It is neither like night nor like day. It is twilight. The sun has set, night has not yet come; the light remains—very gentle, sweet, non-aggressive—that is twilight. Morning has come, the sun is not yet risen, the night has gone—such is the twilight. One who abides in that twilight—that is what we call prayer. That is why Hindus call their prayer sandhya.

Sandhya means one who has stopped in between the dualities, who has found the truce between the two. Between pleasure and pain, love and hate, victory and defeat, night and day, life and death—one who has found the pact and stands in that concord. Seek that interval of conjunction.

Krishna says, it is simple to find. If you cease to be the doer, you will find it instantly. It is only through your doer-ship that you keep missing.

So do not ask, “If suffering arises, what will we do then?” You are no longer there. Whatever will be, will be. What will you do? You are dead. Your corpse is lying there. Morning will come—what will the corpse do? Day will come—what will the corpse do? Night will come—what will the corpse do? The house is empty; no one is there. If there is silence, good. If music plays and there is noise, good. The house is empty; there is no one inside.

Remain an empty house. This is what Buddha called being shunya—emptiness; what Krishna calls being a mere instrument, Buddha calls emptiness. If you have faith in God, become an instrument only; if you do not have faith in God, become emptiness only. The point is the same.

For being a mere instrument, the idea of God is needed: “You are the doer; I am only the tool.” But if you have no faith in God, there is no need to be anxious. Become mere emptiness. Say, “I am not at all.” The same thing will happen.

What happens to the devotee through God happens to the meditator through emptiness. For the meditator, emptiness is God; for the devotee, God is emptiness. Whether shunya or instrument-only, they carry the same meaning. The whole purpose is simply this: I am not in the middle.
Third question:
Osho, you always say that meditation is doing nothing, just being, and that surrender is the door. Yet you also tell us to undertake many yogas and practices. My trouble is that doing nothing and living with an attitude of surrender seems to increase tamas, and doing practices seems to risk sharpening the ego. In such a situation, what is the path?
You neither surrender nor practice. When I speak of surrender, you start thinking of practice; and when I speak of practice, you start thinking of surrender. This is the state of a dishonest mind.

A great Western thinker, Pascal, has said that if in a century even three honest men are found, that is a lot—in a hundred years. Because dishonesty is inborn; it hides in the blood.

This very question faces me every day. If I tell someone, “Do nothing,” he says, “How will anything happen? Something must be done.” I say, “All right, do something.” Then he says, “If I do, the ego will grow.”

These are excuses—devices to keep life exactly as it is. Choose anything; from either one you can reach the same place. Then don’t talk of the other. Both roads lead to the same destination. But you walk four steps on one path, then four steps on the other, then back again—so you remain where you are. You never arrive.

Choose any one path, then drop the worry. Every path has its conveniences and its difficulties.

Your dishonesty arises because you want the conveniences of both paths and the inconveniences of neither. Then a double bind arises in your mind; you become like Trishanku—suspended in between.

Choose one path. If surrender feels right, choose it—but you choose surrender only up to the point where it provides convenience for your laziness.

I am sometimes amazed: do people ever reflect on the words they use? You choose “surrender” merely so that nothing need be done. You do not choose surrender; you choose non-doing—sitting idle.

You want laziness and you search for a pretext in the word surrender. But through laziness no God is found, no truth is found. Soon it begins to seem within you that nothing is coming from surrender. Yet surrender you never did—you merely found the word “surrender” as a cover for laziness. And since laziness does not reveal the divine, thoughts arise: “Nothing is coming from this.”

Without surrendering, you sit with the expectation of getting. Then you think, “Let me do something.” That doing too is not resolve; it is not real practice. That doing too is only because laziness wounds the ego. For the lazy one receives respect nowhere; the world belongs to the doers.

The lazy person thinks, “We have surrendered,” but he receives no respect. He wants the whole world to know—“See, I have surrendered”—and to be honored for it. The world does not honor laziness. And if surrender happens, the desire for honor does not remain.

So gradually restlessness arises: life is just slipping by; nothing is being gained; only the flies of laziness are buzzing around. Then a man starts doing. As he does, the ego stands up. Then worries arise: what now?

Choose any one. If you choose surrender, then guarding against laziness there is essential.

Here is the irony: the lazy choose surrender, and on the path of surrender guarding against laziness is mandatory—because that is the pit there, the danger. If you choose resolve/effort, then guarding against ego there is necessary—because that is the danger on that path.

The danger in surrender is not ego but laziness; and the danger in resolve is not laziness but ego. See the danger clearly. Therefore, if you are to surrender, do not turn surrender into inaction. Let actions happen; leave the sense of doership to the Divine.

But you do not drop the doer; you dump the actions on God. You protect the sense of doership and want the world to honor you as if you were a great seeker, a great doer, a great accomplished being. That will not happen.

Things are completely clear. And if they look hazy, you are creating the haze. You do not want to see clearly.

Yesterday a young man came to me. He said, “Total surrender to you. Whatever you say, I will do.” I asked him, “What are you doing now?” He said, “I study pharmacy, but I have failed.” I told him, “Go, finish your pharmacy.” He said, “That I simply cannot do. I can never pass it.” Just a moment earlier he had been saying, “Whatever you say, I will do.” Pharmacy? “That I simply cannot do. I can never pass it.” Yet he keeps saying he will do whatever I say.

We cannot even see the state of our own mind. Pharmacy cannot be completed, and there is an intention to complete God! He is fleeing from pharmacy and seeking refuge in God. And one who does not have the courage to complete a small task—what else will he complete?

So I told him, “First finish pharmacy, then renounce it.”

A successful man can renounce; an unsuccessful man cannot. Never renounce anything out of failure; otherwise it will become your style of life. Then you will never be able to succeed. Whatever you are to drop, drop it after succeeding. If you are to leave the world, leave it after succeeding. If you are to leave position, leave it after succeeding. If you are to leave wealth, leave it after obtaining it.

Money itself has no value; but the inner capacity you develop in attaining it—the mettle it forges—has value. That will serve you; wherever you go, in whatever direction you go, it will serve you.

Make your path clear. If you are egoistic, then surrender is your way. If you are lazy, then resolve/practice is your way.

You will say I am telling it the other way round: the lazy should be told surrender, and the egoistic should be told resolve. No—then you would be taking your illness as medicine. Understand yourself rightly, and understand your particular illness.

On the path of resolve, ego grows. If ego is your illness, do not go that way; otherwise it will become terrible. On the path of surrender, laziness has the possibility of growing. If laziness is your illness, please do not go that way. The lazy should go toward resolve; resolve cuts laziness. The egoic should go toward surrender; surrender cuts the ego. The arithmetic is straightforward, simple, clear—no haze, no darkness, no confusion anywhere.

But if you take the illness as the medicine, then obstacles arise. And then you keep changing: you have not walked two or four steps before you change again, and again—then you will never arrive. It will seem you are traveling a lot, but you are reaching nowhere. The journey will go in vain. Gradually you will be filled with more and more confusion. The foundation beneath you will begin to shake. Your mind will become tremulous, frightened, afraid. You will lose trust in yourself. And in this world the greatest calamity is to lose trust in oneself. One who has no trust in himself cannot have trust in anyone else.

People come to me and say, “We don’t want to trust another. Our trust is only in ourselves.” I tell them, one who has trust in himself can trust anyone; and one who has no trust in himself cannot trust anyone. What is not within you—how will you spread it outside?

The fragrance in a rose comes from within the rose. The fragrance spreads far on the winds, settles onto your clothes, fills your nostrils. Pass by a rose and for hours you can still sense its hint. But the fragrance comes from within.

If you have trust in yourself, you will be able to trust the master; you will be able to trust God. There is no opposition between trust in oneself and trust in another; they are two waves of the same fragrance.

But one who has no trust in himself will not be able to trust anyone. And one who does not trust anyone should be alert: it is likely he has no trust in himself either.

In human life, as many obstacles as appear are not really there; many are manufactured. You create them, then get entangled in your own net. And then you do not want to come out of that net. And you also want to come out. Because the net gives pain, you want to get out; and because the net gives a little comfort, you do not want to get out. With one hand you keep holding on; with the other hand you want to let go.
The fourth question:
Osho, you say the Master is the news of the Divine on earth, and that love and trust are the bridge to union. But if someone’s mind is skeptical and the heart is repressed, what should one do before setting out on the religious journey?
Why set out at all? It’s like asking me how someone who isn’t sick should go to a doctor! Why go at all? Or asking how someone who isn’t hungry should move toward food! Why move at all?

If there is no hunger for the Divine, leave the whole matter. Before hunger, nothing can be done. There is no appetizer we can give you to increase your hunger. Appetizers work only because hunger already exists; otherwise they merely fill the stomach and kill what little appetite there was.

If there is no thirst for God, then forget God. Let Him be in His house, you in yours. Why create unnecessary hassle? When thirst awakens, then go. What’s the hurry? Time is infinite. God is not in a rush, not impatient. Whenever you come you will find Him; He is always there. Arrive late, you will still find Him.

What is the difficulty then? The difficulty is that you also want to attain God—because greed has arisen from hearing, for centuries, that by attaining God one gets bliss. By “bliss” you mean pleasure—this is the mistake. You long for pleasure, and people say it comes from God; yet there is no thirst in you for God.

You too want happiness. In the world, happiness appears to be on display, and your feet move that way. Meanwhile the seers keep saying there is no happiness there. You see it there. How to trust them? How can trust arise in what you have not experienced? Your sense-experience is that happiness is being squandered in the marketplace, while these “fools” urge you to go to the Himalayas, sit silently, close your eyes. Happiness is in form, and they say, “Close your eyes.” Happiness is in taste, and they say, “Renounce taste.” Happiness is in the world, and they teach renunciation. So you don’t listen; your feet keep moving toward the world.

But in the world you receive plenty of suffering; happiness remains only a hope—never actually gained. It keeps seeming as if: now I’ve got it, now I’ve got it—yet what comes is suffering. When suffering comes, the words of the sages return to mind: perhaps those madmen are right; maybe we are in error. But that happiness standing a little distance away whispers, “You’re not mistaken—just try a little harder; the goal is close. You’ve come so far—turn back now?” And off you go again.

Happiness calls you toward the world. Your hope—your very faith—is in happiness; what you actually receive is suffering. Suffering frightens you; the sages’ words begin to be audible. That is why no one remembers in happiness, people remember in suffering. Even then, their words don’t truly appeal; their numbers are few. You are millions; they are one. Whom to believe—the millions or the one? And is it certain that even that one has attained? Maybe he just says so.

There is nothing in your experience to feed your trust. Wherever you have looked in the world, there you have been deceived. Perhaps these seers, too, are one more illusion among the world’s big illusions. Trust does not arise; doubt does. And hope doesn’t drop—because you learn nothing from your living.

So what shall I say to you? Only this: if there is no thirst for God, then for now leave God aside. You are bringing up the matter out of season. The season has not come, the fruit is not ripe. Drop it for now. Out-of-season talk is dangerous: you will not be able to enjoy the world, and you certainly cannot go toward God. You will be left hanging in mid-air.

Run fully toward the world. My understanding is: if you forget God for a while and run wholly toward the world, thirst for God will arise. Get to know the world rightly. If you actually attain happiness there, then there is no need for God—the matter is finished. If you do not, thirst will be born.

So far, no one has gotten happiness there. Therefore the birth of thirst is certain. If it is not being born, you have not gone into the world rightly—you are half-baked.

I have heard: a Jewish youth was going to America. His family was old-fashioned. They feared he might go astray in America. They called their rabbi to advise him.

The rabbi frightened him thoroughly: “If you indulge in women, in hell you will be boiled in cauldrons. If you drink wine, you will suffer terrible torments; worms will bore through your body; they will weave through your flesh.” He painted horrors.

The boy trembled—broke into a sweat. He asked, “Will what you say stop my lust? Will temptation cease? Will the excitements that will surround me in America not be there?”

The rabbi said, “That I cannot guarantee. Temptations will come. But whatever you indulge in, you will not be able to enjoy it properly—that much is certain. If you fall into a woman’s love, hell will stand in between; the cauldron will boil. This much is sure: you will not be able to enjoy anything properly.”

This is exactly your state. You cannot enjoy. You go to enjoy, and hell stands between. You go to drink, and sin stands between. You go to earn, and the lure of heaven and the fear of hell stand in between. Wherever you go in the world—God tags along: “He is watching.” You never get full leave to do anything.

These are your notions learned from priests. Kindly drop them. Become wholly worldly once. And I give you my word: if you become utterly worldly, nothing will remain to thirst for except God—because the world is nothing but a desert.

But it must be searched: every nook and corner. Your illusion must be dispelled that perhaps an oasis is hidden somewhere; the world is vast—maybe happiness is tucked away. Measure it ounce by ounce; search every wave; chase every craving. From that very pain, thirst will arise. There is no other way.

Only when the world proves futile does sannyas become meaningful. Only when indulgence becomes worth two pennies does the value of yoga become clear.

Your condition is: neither of the home nor of the ghat. You go into the world, the seers tug you back by your shirt. You go toward the seers, the world tugs you back. You get nowhere. Go one way. One thing grasped—everything is grasped.

I say to you: grasp the world. Kindly don’t drag God into the middle. And this much is certain: if you grasp the world—if you give yourself totally to it—then with that one thing grasped, all will be grasped. For in the world nothing is obtainable but failure. To hope for bliss from it is like pressing oil from sand—you will lose.

Only from that loss is something possible. Only from complete defeat is transformation possible. You are not yet defeated; hope clings on. That very hope misleads you.

No, there is no other way to awaken thirst. This is the mistake you have made for births on end; hence the thirst has not arisen. Don’t repeat it now.

And I am not eager that you become religious. I see that those who were eager to make you religious have ruined you. My eagerness is to make you true. I have no purpose in making you “religious.” If you are in the world, be there in truth.

When I say, “Be in the world in truth,” I’m not saying: “Speak the truth in the world.” I mean: be thoroughly worldly, authentically worldly. Whatever is to be indulged, indulge it. All indulgences end in sorrow. After all indulgences, darkness descends. From that dense darkness, morning is born.