Its form is not perceived here as such
no end no beginning no firm foundation।
this Ashvattha with roots well grown
cut down with the firm sword of nonattachment।। 3।।
Then that abode is to be sought
on reaching which they do not return again।
to that Primal Person I surrender
from whom the ancient current of becoming has flowed।। 4।।
Free from pride and delusion conquerors of the fault of attachment
ever intent on the Self with desires turned away।
free from the pairs called pleasure and pain
the undeluded go to that imperishable state।। 5।।
Geeta Darshan #2
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Read in Original Hindi (मूल हिन्दी)
Sutra (Original)
न रूपमस्येह तथोपलभ्यते
नान्तो न चादिर्न च संप्रतिष्ठा।
अश्वत्थमेनं सुविरूढमूलम्
असङ्गशस्त्रेण दृढेन छित्त्वा।। 3।।
ततः पदं तत्परिमार्गितव्यं
यस्मिन्गता न निवर्तन्ति भूयः।
तमेव चाद्यं पुरुषं प्रपद्ये
यतः प्रवृत्तिः प्रसृता पुराणी।। 4।।
निर्मानमोहा जितसङ्गदोषा
अध्यात्मनित्या विनिवृत्तकामाः।
द्वन्द्वैर्विमुक्ताः सुखदुःखसंज्ञैः
गच्छन्त्यमूढाः पदमव्ययं तत्।। 5।।
नान्तो न चादिर्न च संप्रतिष्ठा।
अश्वत्थमेनं सुविरूढमूलम्
असङ्गशस्त्रेण दृढेन छित्त्वा।। 3।।
ततः पदं तत्परिमार्गितव्यं
यस्मिन्गता न निवर्तन्ति भूयः।
तमेव चाद्यं पुरुषं प्रपद्ये
यतः प्रवृत्तिः प्रसृता पुराणी।। 4।।
निर्मानमोहा जितसङ्गदोषा
अध्यात्मनित्या विनिवृत्तकामाः।
द्वन्द्वैर्विमुक्ताः सुखदुःखसंज्ञैः
गच्छन्त्यमूढाः पदमव्ययं तत्।। 5।।
Transliteration:
na rūpamasyeha tathopalabhyate
nānto na cādirna ca saṃpratiṣṭhā|
aśvatthamenaṃ suvirūḍhamūlam
asaṅgaśastreṇa dṛḍhena chittvā|| 3||
tataḥ padaṃ tatparimārgitavyaṃ
yasmingatā na nivartanti bhūyaḥ|
tameva cādyaṃ puruṣaṃ prapadye
yataḥ pravṛttiḥ prasṛtā purāṇī|| 4||
nirmānamohā jitasaṅgadoṣā
adhyātmanityā vinivṛttakāmāḥ|
dvandvairvimuktāḥ sukhaduḥkhasaṃjñaiḥ
gacchantyamūḍhāḥ padamavyayaṃ tat|| 5||
na rūpamasyeha tathopalabhyate
nānto na cādirna ca saṃpratiṣṭhā|
aśvatthamenaṃ suvirūḍhamūlam
asaṅgaśastreṇa dṛḍhena chittvā|| 3||
tataḥ padaṃ tatparimārgitavyaṃ
yasmingatā na nivartanti bhūyaḥ|
tameva cādyaṃ puruṣaṃ prapadye
yataḥ pravṛttiḥ prasṛtā purāṇī|| 4||
nirmānamohā jitasaṅgadoṣā
adhyātmanityā vinivṛttakāmāḥ|
dvandvairvimuktāḥ sukhaduḥkhasaṃjñaiḥ
gacchantyamūḍhāḥ padamavyayaṃ tat|| 5||
Translation (Meaning)
Questions in this Discourse
First, I had said: give love to your parents. Those who have asked the question are asking for love from their children for themselves. That is where the mistake lies.
All parents ask for love from their children. Your parents must have asked it of you, and you could not give it. You too are asking your children, and the chances of receiving love are very small. Your children will ask their children in turn.
What I said was that children should give love to their parents—not that parents should demand love from their children. And love never comes by demanding it; even if it does, it has no value. The moment demand arises, love dies.
Secondly, a parent’s love for the child is spontaneous, effortless, natural. Just as a river flows downward, so too does this love flow downward. A child’s love for the parents is very unnatural, very contrived. It is like forcing water to flow uphill.
Gurdjieff’s dictum was: only those who are able to love their parents do I call human—because it is exceedingly difficult.
All parents love their children—that is simple. One does not even have to be human for that; animals do as much. Love flowing from the parents to the child is like a river descending. But when children love their parents, the upward journey begins. It is extremely difficult.
Parents think, “We love our children so much; why don’t we receive love back?” They fail to remember a simple thing: what was their own relationship with their parents? And if you could not love your parents, how will your children love you? And the way you are loving your children is the way they will love their children—why would they love you?
Even animals manage this much. So parents should not feel great pride that they love their children. It is a straightforward, natural event. If parents did not love their children, that would be unnatural. When children love their parents, something unnatural—and very precious—happens, because there love becomes free of the cycle of nature; there love becomes conscious.
That is why all ancient cultures established supreme reverence for parents. And it has to be taught. Sanskar—impressions, conditioning—must be instilled. For that we need the entire cultural climate, the very air in which this upward flight becomes easier.
There is no glory in going downhill. The harder thing is the other way. When a child is born, the child is innocent, simple. And that is precisely the quality because of which your love flows toward him—he is helpless. To love the helpless gives great satisfaction to your ego. There is great relish in making the helpless strong. The child is innocent; there is no way to hate him. To be harsh with him would make you feel stupid.
But as the child grows, your love begins to dry up; you begin to harden. As the child stands on his own feet, the gulf between you widens. For now the child is no longer helpless. His ego is arising. He will struggle, resist, rebel, fight. His stubbornness and willfulness are coming forth; your ego will begin to be hurt by it.
It is very easy to love a newborn. But as soon as the child starts growing, loving becomes difficult.
Keep in mind the reverse is true for the child: it is very hard for him to love you, easy to hate you. Because you are powerful, and the weak always hate the powerful. The powerful can show compassion to the weak, but the weak have no way to show compassion to the powerful; the weak will hate the powerful.
The child experiences himself as helpless, and you as powerful. He feels dependent, and the whole web of his dependency is in your hands. As his ego grows—and it will grow, for that is the movement of life—as soon as he becomes aware and understands “I am,” his struggle with you will begin.
You will want obedience; the child will want to disobey. For in making him obey, your ego is gratified, and in disobeying, his ego is gratified. In the child’s mind there will be hatred for you, and your love will seem mere deception. It will appear to him that under the name of love you are exploiting him—and in ninety cases out of a hundred the child is not even wrong. This is what happens in the name of love.
All this hatred collects within the child. If it is a boy, it gathers toward the father; if a girl, toward the mother. No son truly respects his father. He may have to show respect—out of compulsion—but inside he wishes to rebel. No girl truly loves her mother. She displays it—out of courtesy—but inside there is jealousy, resentment, and conflict.
That is why Gurdjieff’s statement is so valuable: the person who can love his parents—only he do I call human. For it is a very arduous journey.
So if you love your children, do not take much pride in it. Everyone loves their children; yours will too. There is nothing special in it. But if you feel reverence for your parents, if you love and honor them, that is indeed something to be proud of, something significant. Because it is a conscious attainment. And it can happen only when you become filled with reverence for the source.
Otherwise every son feels that his father is a fool. And as modern education has progressed, this impression has deepened.
It may be that the father is not as educated as the son. The father may not know many things the son can know. Knowledge grows daily; therefore the father’s knowledge becomes outdated.
So it may seem natural to the son that the father knows nothing. How then can reverence arise? Reverence cannot be based on facts. Reverence can only be based on this: the father is the origin, the source; and that from which I have come—there is no going beyond it. However much I may know, however great I may become in my own eyes, however established my ego becomes—still, before the root and the source I must bow. For no one can outgrow his origin.
No tree is more than its seed. It cannot be. The entire tree is hidden in the seed. However vast the tree becomes, it was contained in that tiny seed. There is no other destiny possible. And the final fruit of the tree will be that it brings forth those very seeds again.
You can never be greater than your origin. Growth can never surpass the root. However large it appears, the tree is never greater than the seed. A deep realization of this existential fact can fill you with reverence for your parents.
But do not listen to this as parents; listen as sons and daughters. I am saying this for your reverence toward your parents. Do not go home and start demanding reverence from your children. If you do, you have not understood; you have missed.
And in any society where reverence for parents declines, the sense of God is lost. For God is the primal origin. He is the ultimate source.
If in thirty years you have gone beyond your father—if there is a thirty-year gap between you and your father and you have gone so far ahead of him—then you will have gone far, far ahead of the Supreme Father, of God. The gap there is of billions upon billions of years. If you were to meet the Divine, He would seem utterly insensate, supremely foolish. When even the father seems foolish, if you met God, He would not even seem human to you.
This sense of respect backward—toward the root, toward the origin—is the outcome of profound thought and discernment. It does not come from nature. It is attained through reflection, contemplation, meditation.
But remember, whatever I am saying, I am saying to you as sons and daughters, not as fathers and mothers.
All parents ask for love from their children. Your parents must have asked it of you, and you could not give it. You too are asking your children, and the chances of receiving love are very small. Your children will ask their children in turn.
What I said was that children should give love to their parents—not that parents should demand love from their children. And love never comes by demanding it; even if it does, it has no value. The moment demand arises, love dies.
Secondly, a parent’s love for the child is spontaneous, effortless, natural. Just as a river flows downward, so too does this love flow downward. A child’s love for the parents is very unnatural, very contrived. It is like forcing water to flow uphill.
Gurdjieff’s dictum was: only those who are able to love their parents do I call human—because it is exceedingly difficult.
All parents love their children—that is simple. One does not even have to be human for that; animals do as much. Love flowing from the parents to the child is like a river descending. But when children love their parents, the upward journey begins. It is extremely difficult.
Parents think, “We love our children so much; why don’t we receive love back?” They fail to remember a simple thing: what was their own relationship with their parents? And if you could not love your parents, how will your children love you? And the way you are loving your children is the way they will love their children—why would they love you?
Even animals manage this much. So parents should not feel great pride that they love their children. It is a straightforward, natural event. If parents did not love their children, that would be unnatural. When children love their parents, something unnatural—and very precious—happens, because there love becomes free of the cycle of nature; there love becomes conscious.
That is why all ancient cultures established supreme reverence for parents. And it has to be taught. Sanskar—impressions, conditioning—must be instilled. For that we need the entire cultural climate, the very air in which this upward flight becomes easier.
There is no glory in going downhill. The harder thing is the other way. When a child is born, the child is innocent, simple. And that is precisely the quality because of which your love flows toward him—he is helpless. To love the helpless gives great satisfaction to your ego. There is great relish in making the helpless strong. The child is innocent; there is no way to hate him. To be harsh with him would make you feel stupid.
But as the child grows, your love begins to dry up; you begin to harden. As the child stands on his own feet, the gulf between you widens. For now the child is no longer helpless. His ego is arising. He will struggle, resist, rebel, fight. His stubbornness and willfulness are coming forth; your ego will begin to be hurt by it.
It is very easy to love a newborn. But as soon as the child starts growing, loving becomes difficult.
Keep in mind the reverse is true for the child: it is very hard for him to love you, easy to hate you. Because you are powerful, and the weak always hate the powerful. The powerful can show compassion to the weak, but the weak have no way to show compassion to the powerful; the weak will hate the powerful.
The child experiences himself as helpless, and you as powerful. He feels dependent, and the whole web of his dependency is in your hands. As his ego grows—and it will grow, for that is the movement of life—as soon as he becomes aware and understands “I am,” his struggle with you will begin.
You will want obedience; the child will want to disobey. For in making him obey, your ego is gratified, and in disobeying, his ego is gratified. In the child’s mind there will be hatred for you, and your love will seem mere deception. It will appear to him that under the name of love you are exploiting him—and in ninety cases out of a hundred the child is not even wrong. This is what happens in the name of love.
All this hatred collects within the child. If it is a boy, it gathers toward the father; if a girl, toward the mother. No son truly respects his father. He may have to show respect—out of compulsion—but inside he wishes to rebel. No girl truly loves her mother. She displays it—out of courtesy—but inside there is jealousy, resentment, and conflict.
That is why Gurdjieff’s statement is so valuable: the person who can love his parents—only he do I call human. For it is a very arduous journey.
So if you love your children, do not take much pride in it. Everyone loves their children; yours will too. There is nothing special in it. But if you feel reverence for your parents, if you love and honor them, that is indeed something to be proud of, something significant. Because it is a conscious attainment. And it can happen only when you become filled with reverence for the source.
Otherwise every son feels that his father is a fool. And as modern education has progressed, this impression has deepened.
It may be that the father is not as educated as the son. The father may not know many things the son can know. Knowledge grows daily; therefore the father’s knowledge becomes outdated.
So it may seem natural to the son that the father knows nothing. How then can reverence arise? Reverence cannot be based on facts. Reverence can only be based on this: the father is the origin, the source; and that from which I have come—there is no going beyond it. However much I may know, however great I may become in my own eyes, however established my ego becomes—still, before the root and the source I must bow. For no one can outgrow his origin.
No tree is more than its seed. It cannot be. The entire tree is hidden in the seed. However vast the tree becomes, it was contained in that tiny seed. There is no other destiny possible. And the final fruit of the tree will be that it brings forth those very seeds again.
You can never be greater than your origin. Growth can never surpass the root. However large it appears, the tree is never greater than the seed. A deep realization of this existential fact can fill you with reverence for your parents.
But do not listen to this as parents; listen as sons and daughters. I am saying this for your reverence toward your parents. Do not go home and start demanding reverence from your children. If you do, you have not understood; you have missed.
And in any society where reverence for parents declines, the sense of God is lost. For God is the primal origin. He is the ultimate source.
If in thirty years you have gone beyond your father—if there is a thirty-year gap between you and your father and you have gone so far ahead of him—then you will have gone far, far ahead of the Supreme Father, of God. The gap there is of billions upon billions of years. If you were to meet the Divine, He would seem utterly insensate, supremely foolish. When even the father seems foolish, if you met God, He would not even seem human to you.
This sense of respect backward—toward the root, toward the origin—is the outcome of profound thought and discernment. It does not come from nature. It is attained through reflection, contemplation, meditation.
But remember, whatever I am saying, I am saying to you as sons and daughters, not as fathers and mothers.
Second question: Osho, you have earlier said, “Live moment to moment, live in the present.” Now you are saying, “Return to the past.” What should we do?
Living in the present is possible only when you are free of the past. Before that, no one can live in the present. There is no contradiction between these two statements. Only the one whose mind carries no burden of the past can live in the present. If the past weighs on you, there is no way to live in the present.
And the past is a burden upon you. This process of returning to the past is a device to cut that burden, to be rid of it, so it falls away. As one drops one’s clothes and stands naked, so let the past drop and stand naked in the present—only then will you be able to live in the present, only then will you taste moment-to-moment being.
These two things may appear contradictory, but returning to the past is an art for living in the present.
I am not telling you to live in the past. There is no way to live in the past. What is gone is gone; it is no more. How will you live in it? Yesterday has passed, and there is no way to bring it back.
But the memory of yesterday hangs inside. It still exists. Yesterday is gone—the snake has slipped away; only its sloughed skin remains stuck in your mind.
It is from this memory, which is still present today, that you must be freed. Your fascination with it should dry up. Be neither for the memory nor against it. Let there be neither attachment nor aversion. Let your entire connection with that memory drop, as if whether it happened or not makes no difference. Then you are free of the past; you have wiped the slate of the past clean. Only then will you be able to live in the present. Then your eyes will be bright, fresh, new; and whatever you see will not be hindered by the dust of the past on your eyes. There will be no dust there; the mirror will be clean.
So the processes of returning to the past are methods to live in the present. And the person who is afraid of returning to the past is afraid precisely because the past is heavy. The mere remembrance of it makes him restless and disturbed. That means the inner wounds of the past are still raw. How will you live in the present?
Yesterday someone abused you; today you see that man again on the road. Your eyes are not empty; they are full of the abuse. Your mind is not empty; yesterday’s insult is still reverberating. The moment you see that man, the abuse will reawaken. And you will not see him as he is now, but as he was when he hurled the insult yesterday.
And it may be that the man is coming to ask your forgiveness. It may be that he himself has forgotten the insult. He may have repented and punished himself. But you will not see this new man. You are looking with old eyes. You are not seeing today; you are seeing through yesterday.
Almost all our seeing is like this; so is our hearing. We are scarcely here—ninety-nine percent of the time the past stands in between. Because of it, we are deprived of the present.
So what I told you yesterday about experiments of returning to the past are experiments to be free of the past. Go back, but do not stay there. Do not get stuck there. Return only so that you can live the past consciously. Understand this point a little carefully.
You were in the past, but you were unconscious then. Yesterday this man abused you, and you had no awareness then. The blow of the abuse struck so hard, you were so filled with smoke, anger boiled so much that you could not see what was happening. In that stupor of rage you could not pass through the experience consciously.
But now yesterday is over. The insult is over, the man is gone, the day is gone. Now you can sit silently and re-enter yesterday’s event. And now you can descend into it consciously. What was not possible yesterday may be possible today.
And you will be surprised: if you go into yesterday’s event with awareness, you will suddenly find that the sting of that event has disappeared. There is no wound left in it, no thorns left in that abuse. And if this can happen in memory, you will gain the insight that if you can do this in actuality, no thorns will remain in your life.
Then tomorrow, if someone insults you again—life’s road has many thorns—your previous experience of consciously returning to insults will help. Then do not let it become the past at all; see it right there and then. Stand still and watch the event as if it were only a play of memory, as if in fact nothing were happening and only an imagination were occurring in the mind. Then the past will not be manufactured.
There are two tasks regarding the past. First, the bound past—what in this land we have called karma and samskara—must undergo nirjara, its wearing away; it must be dusted off. Second, see that further past is not manufactured. So dust it off every day. As soon as dust settles, wipe it then and there. What is the point of accumulating? What needs to be dropped tomorrow—why bind it today? And what will become a burden tomorrow—why collect it now?
So, be free of what has been accumulated. And do not let what could be accumulated get stored up. Wipe away old samskaras; do not let new samskaras be formed. Then you will become clean like a mirror. Then the world will appear to you as it is. You will not distort it; you will neither add to it nor subtract from it. And if such a mirrorlike state happens, then what we come to know is not the world—it is the divine. What we know then is the root, the source, the origin. Knowing that, all the sorrows of life disappear.
There is no contradiction between the two points. One is the goal—living in the present. The other is the method—descending into the past, through which the goal can be realized. But it appears difficult.
I have heard: Mulla Nasruddin had the easy habit of abusing—without cause, even to inanimate things. He would drive his bullock cart to the fields and abuse even the oxen.
A fakir came to the village and saw Nasruddin on the road abusing the oxen. He counseled Nasruddin. The point was simple; it needed no special argument. There is no meaning in abusing oxen. And to drag in obscene talk about their mothers and sisters is sheer madness. Nasruddin also understood. He took a vow, swore that now he would never again make such a mistake.
But habits never break by vows. If habits could be broken by vows, the whole world would have changed long ago. And that a thing appears reasonable to the intellect is not enough for transformation, because life goes deeper than intellect. There are unconscious layers; the intellect does not reach there.
Not even fifteen days had passed when the fakir met him again on the road. The fakir appeared just as Nasruddin was abusing the oxen and whipping them. As soon as he saw the fakir, he pretended not to see him, and shouted loudly to the oxen, “Listen! If this were fifteen days ago, I would say to you the things I used to say. But since I have taken an oath, dear children, please walk a little faster!”
He was abusing, yet telling the oxen, “If it were fifteen days earlier, these things I would have said to you. But since I have sworn...”
Whatever we have done and thought leaves deep grooves on the mind. And when we use those grooves day after day, they go deeper. You may even decide, “I won’t do this now,” but that decision’s groove is not so deep; it is a thin line. That decision will be defeated, because the old grooves have become tracks.
Like the ruts that form on village dirt roads. Then when you drive a bullock cart, your wheels keep slipping back into those same ruts. The hollows are waiting; it is easy for the wheels to fall into them.
So it is with the mind—there are ruts. The past means endless grooves. However much you understand, your intellect agrees, you make decisions, you resolve—at the moment of resolve you feel something is going to change. But not even an hour passes before your decision breaks. Then only self-condemnation is produced, nothing else.
Your saints, your fakirs, your priests and pundits—most of the time they only succeed in producing self-condemnation in you, nothing else. Their words are logically correct. You cannot even say they are wrong; you have to admit they are right. In that admission you take a decision.
But against what are you deciding? Inside are grooves carved since who knows when, deep tracks. Walking in them has become a habit. It is easy to walk in them. They will pull you again and again.
The meaning of returning into the past is: these grooves must be erased. Before you swear oaths or take resolutions to change, it is necessary to pass consciously through that from which you want to be free. Try it and see: if you pass through an experience consciously, you are freed of it.
A woman was brought to me. Her husband had died. Three months had passed, but she had not cried. She was intelligent; a university professor—educated, had written books, wrote poetry, gave lectures. When she did not cry, when no tears came, people around her praised her greatly. That praise strengthened her ego and she stiffened even more. But after three months she began to have hysteria fits; she began to faint. Then treatment for fainting was started.
But no one thought that she had suppressed a deep pain of grief without living it. It would have been entirely natural for her to weep. Had truly understanding people been around, they would have helped her to cry. It was appropriate that the wound be lived through. That did not happen. The crying remained inside. The tears wanted to come; they were held back. The weight of all that became heavy. The mind could not be lightened. The inevitable result of that burden was that some terrible illness would arise.
After hearing her whole story I told her, “No other treatment is needed. Cry your heart out.” She said, “But what use is crying? Will crying bring back the dead?”
I am not saying crying will bring back the dead. Crying will allow you to live rightly. The dead will not return—but if you do not cry, you too will become dead. In fact, you already have. Your heart will turn to stone.
She said, “Now it is very difficult. When my husband died, at that moment it would have been easy; now a lot of time has passed.”
I said, “You will have to return; you will have to go back into the past. You must start again from the day your husband died. Close your eyes and begin your journey again from the moment you first received the news of his death. Forget the days that have passed since, and live it again.”
Right there in front of me she became distressed. Her hands and feet began to tremble. Her eyes closed. Her jaws clenched. A scream and sobbing began. For about fifteen days there was intense pain. Then a lightness came. Now she can laugh.
Understand this difference.
Passing through the crying consciously, now she can laugh. Had she suppressed the crying, far from laughter, hysteria was the outcome.
If you look at the past consciously even once, then you can laugh. The burden dissolves. And only after that is living in the present possible.
And the past is a burden upon you. This process of returning to the past is a device to cut that burden, to be rid of it, so it falls away. As one drops one’s clothes and stands naked, so let the past drop and stand naked in the present—only then will you be able to live in the present, only then will you taste moment-to-moment being.
These two things may appear contradictory, but returning to the past is an art for living in the present.
I am not telling you to live in the past. There is no way to live in the past. What is gone is gone; it is no more. How will you live in it? Yesterday has passed, and there is no way to bring it back.
But the memory of yesterday hangs inside. It still exists. Yesterday is gone—the snake has slipped away; only its sloughed skin remains stuck in your mind.
It is from this memory, which is still present today, that you must be freed. Your fascination with it should dry up. Be neither for the memory nor against it. Let there be neither attachment nor aversion. Let your entire connection with that memory drop, as if whether it happened or not makes no difference. Then you are free of the past; you have wiped the slate of the past clean. Only then will you be able to live in the present. Then your eyes will be bright, fresh, new; and whatever you see will not be hindered by the dust of the past on your eyes. There will be no dust there; the mirror will be clean.
So the processes of returning to the past are methods to live in the present. And the person who is afraid of returning to the past is afraid precisely because the past is heavy. The mere remembrance of it makes him restless and disturbed. That means the inner wounds of the past are still raw. How will you live in the present?
Yesterday someone abused you; today you see that man again on the road. Your eyes are not empty; they are full of the abuse. Your mind is not empty; yesterday’s insult is still reverberating. The moment you see that man, the abuse will reawaken. And you will not see him as he is now, but as he was when he hurled the insult yesterday.
And it may be that the man is coming to ask your forgiveness. It may be that he himself has forgotten the insult. He may have repented and punished himself. But you will not see this new man. You are looking with old eyes. You are not seeing today; you are seeing through yesterday.
Almost all our seeing is like this; so is our hearing. We are scarcely here—ninety-nine percent of the time the past stands in between. Because of it, we are deprived of the present.
So what I told you yesterday about experiments of returning to the past are experiments to be free of the past. Go back, but do not stay there. Do not get stuck there. Return only so that you can live the past consciously. Understand this point a little carefully.
You were in the past, but you were unconscious then. Yesterday this man abused you, and you had no awareness then. The blow of the abuse struck so hard, you were so filled with smoke, anger boiled so much that you could not see what was happening. In that stupor of rage you could not pass through the experience consciously.
But now yesterday is over. The insult is over, the man is gone, the day is gone. Now you can sit silently and re-enter yesterday’s event. And now you can descend into it consciously. What was not possible yesterday may be possible today.
And you will be surprised: if you go into yesterday’s event with awareness, you will suddenly find that the sting of that event has disappeared. There is no wound left in it, no thorns left in that abuse. And if this can happen in memory, you will gain the insight that if you can do this in actuality, no thorns will remain in your life.
Then tomorrow, if someone insults you again—life’s road has many thorns—your previous experience of consciously returning to insults will help. Then do not let it become the past at all; see it right there and then. Stand still and watch the event as if it were only a play of memory, as if in fact nothing were happening and only an imagination were occurring in the mind. Then the past will not be manufactured.
There are two tasks regarding the past. First, the bound past—what in this land we have called karma and samskara—must undergo nirjara, its wearing away; it must be dusted off. Second, see that further past is not manufactured. So dust it off every day. As soon as dust settles, wipe it then and there. What is the point of accumulating? What needs to be dropped tomorrow—why bind it today? And what will become a burden tomorrow—why collect it now?
So, be free of what has been accumulated. And do not let what could be accumulated get stored up. Wipe away old samskaras; do not let new samskaras be formed. Then you will become clean like a mirror. Then the world will appear to you as it is. You will not distort it; you will neither add to it nor subtract from it. And if such a mirrorlike state happens, then what we come to know is not the world—it is the divine. What we know then is the root, the source, the origin. Knowing that, all the sorrows of life disappear.
There is no contradiction between the two points. One is the goal—living in the present. The other is the method—descending into the past, through which the goal can be realized. But it appears difficult.
I have heard: Mulla Nasruddin had the easy habit of abusing—without cause, even to inanimate things. He would drive his bullock cart to the fields and abuse even the oxen.
A fakir came to the village and saw Nasruddin on the road abusing the oxen. He counseled Nasruddin. The point was simple; it needed no special argument. There is no meaning in abusing oxen. And to drag in obscene talk about their mothers and sisters is sheer madness. Nasruddin also understood. He took a vow, swore that now he would never again make such a mistake.
But habits never break by vows. If habits could be broken by vows, the whole world would have changed long ago. And that a thing appears reasonable to the intellect is not enough for transformation, because life goes deeper than intellect. There are unconscious layers; the intellect does not reach there.
Not even fifteen days had passed when the fakir met him again on the road. The fakir appeared just as Nasruddin was abusing the oxen and whipping them. As soon as he saw the fakir, he pretended not to see him, and shouted loudly to the oxen, “Listen! If this were fifteen days ago, I would say to you the things I used to say. But since I have taken an oath, dear children, please walk a little faster!”
He was abusing, yet telling the oxen, “If it were fifteen days earlier, these things I would have said to you. But since I have sworn...”
Whatever we have done and thought leaves deep grooves on the mind. And when we use those grooves day after day, they go deeper. You may even decide, “I won’t do this now,” but that decision’s groove is not so deep; it is a thin line. That decision will be defeated, because the old grooves have become tracks.
Like the ruts that form on village dirt roads. Then when you drive a bullock cart, your wheels keep slipping back into those same ruts. The hollows are waiting; it is easy for the wheels to fall into them.
So it is with the mind—there are ruts. The past means endless grooves. However much you understand, your intellect agrees, you make decisions, you resolve—at the moment of resolve you feel something is going to change. But not even an hour passes before your decision breaks. Then only self-condemnation is produced, nothing else.
Your saints, your fakirs, your priests and pundits—most of the time they only succeed in producing self-condemnation in you, nothing else. Their words are logically correct. You cannot even say they are wrong; you have to admit they are right. In that admission you take a decision.
But against what are you deciding? Inside are grooves carved since who knows when, deep tracks. Walking in them has become a habit. It is easy to walk in them. They will pull you again and again.
The meaning of returning into the past is: these grooves must be erased. Before you swear oaths or take resolutions to change, it is necessary to pass consciously through that from which you want to be free. Try it and see: if you pass through an experience consciously, you are freed of it.
A woman was brought to me. Her husband had died. Three months had passed, but she had not cried. She was intelligent; a university professor—educated, had written books, wrote poetry, gave lectures. When she did not cry, when no tears came, people around her praised her greatly. That praise strengthened her ego and she stiffened even more. But after three months she began to have hysteria fits; she began to faint. Then treatment for fainting was started.
But no one thought that she had suppressed a deep pain of grief without living it. It would have been entirely natural for her to weep. Had truly understanding people been around, they would have helped her to cry. It was appropriate that the wound be lived through. That did not happen. The crying remained inside. The tears wanted to come; they were held back. The weight of all that became heavy. The mind could not be lightened. The inevitable result of that burden was that some terrible illness would arise.
After hearing her whole story I told her, “No other treatment is needed. Cry your heart out.” She said, “But what use is crying? Will crying bring back the dead?”
I am not saying crying will bring back the dead. Crying will allow you to live rightly. The dead will not return—but if you do not cry, you too will become dead. In fact, you already have. Your heart will turn to stone.
She said, “Now it is very difficult. When my husband died, at that moment it would have been easy; now a lot of time has passed.”
I said, “You will have to return; you will have to go back into the past. You must start again from the day your husband died. Close your eyes and begin your journey again from the moment you first received the news of his death. Forget the days that have passed since, and live it again.”
Right there in front of me she became distressed. Her hands and feet began to tremble. Her eyes closed. Her jaws clenched. A scream and sobbing began. For about fifteen days there was intense pain. Then a lightness came. Now she can laugh.
Understand this difference.
Passing through the crying consciously, now she can laugh. Had she suppressed the crying, far from laughter, hysteria was the outcome.
If you look at the past consciously even once, then you can laugh. The burden dissolves. And only after that is living in the present possible.
The last question:
Osho, the Gita’s view is that the world is a descent from the superior to the inferior. Accordingly, the Hindu notion of the decline from Satya Yuga to Kali Yuga also seems right. But known history tells us that humankind has been moving gradually from human sacrifice, slavery and poverty toward prosperity and freedom. What is the fact in this?
Osho, the Gita’s view is that the world is a descent from the superior to the inferior. Accordingly, the Hindu notion of the decline from Satya Yuga to Kali Yuga also seems right. But known history tells us that humankind has been moving gradually from human sacrifice, slavery and poverty toward prosperity and freedom. What is the fact in this?
First, when a child is born, he is innocent; his slate is blank. There is nothing bad written on it, and nothing good either. The child is not a saint; he is innocent. Nor is he a sinner. The sinner is not there at all—and the burden of being a saint is not yet upon him. He has not yet said yes or no. He has not yet chosen the bad or the good. He is still without alternatives. He has made no choice. He is choiceless. He does not even know what is good and what is bad. The division has not arisen; the child lives in non-division.
This state of the child was once the state of the whole society; this is what the Hindus call Satya Yuga—the age of truth. And it seems right; it even seems scientific. Because the story of one person’s life is the story of all persons.
A child is born innocent, and an old man dies full of all kinds of faults. Satya Yuga is the childhood of society, and Kali Yuga is the old age of society—the last hour, when all manner of diseases have been collected. When the accumulation of experiences has made man clever and dishonest, his guilelessness is lost.
Yet nothing is gained by that dishonesty and cleverness. Because if anything were gained, the old would be happy and the children would be unhappy. In fact, one only loses; nothing is gained. But the mind consoles itself that cleverness...
I have heard: Mulla Nasruddin used to work in a factory, and his hand was cut off—his left hand went into the machine and was severed. After months of treatment, when he returned from the hospital, his friends came to see him. They said, “Nasruddin, thank God your right hand wasn’t cut off—otherwise life would have been useless.” Nasruddin said, “No need to thank God. Actually my right hand had gone into the machine; I pulled it out in time and thrust the left one in.”
This is about as much as we mean by human “intelligence.” Because what is the fruit of it? Where does all this cleverness lead? What remains in the hand in the end? What harm comes to the child? What does he lose by his innocence? The innocent mind cannot lose anything—because it has no grasp.
The Hindu vision accepts that the tale of the individual is the tale of humanity as a whole. The primitive age of humankind was Satya Yuga: people were simple, childlike. And this seems true: even today some primitive tribes remain—simple, childlike.
Then civilization, understanding, mathematics develop. The heart is lost and the intellect becomes dominant. Feeling grows weak and calculation grows strong. Poetry disappears and only mathematics remains. Like America today. Everything becomes numbers; data becomes everything; calculation sits on the throne. There is cleverness. But by the Hindu reckoning it is Kali Yuga—the last hour, the worst time.
Shall we call it development, or shall we call it decline? Is old age the development of the child—or is it the loss of childhood, a fall? If someone asks you which you would choose to be, your answer will decide it. What you would choose to become is what is worthy and superior. What you would not wish to be indicates an error, a mistake, some darkness there.
No one wants to be old; and no one wants to live only in mathematics. Because no glimpse of life’s bliss ever descends into the brain. Life’s bliss, life’s dance, life’s fragrance are experienced only by the heart. The brain can give everything—except bliss. And with the heart, perhaps you will lose everything else; only bliss will remain. But even after losing everything, saving bliss is worth it.
What we call scientific development is the development of science. We have bigger machines; we have bigger houses. But this is not the development of bliss. In those big houses dwell unhappy people. The people in huts were not as unhappy as the people in mansions are. Those who had nothing—no tools, no weapons—were more joyful than we are. We have atomic missiles, the means to reach the moon—but not a single grain of happiness.
The question is: how do we measure? If you measure only by piles of money whether man has developed or declined, then yes, there is development. But if you measure by the man himself, there is decline. It depends on your vision: what is your viewpoint? What is your criterion? How do you measure?
The Hindu vision, the seers of the Upanishads or Krishna of the Gita, measure by humanity. What you have is not valuable; what you are—that is valuable. How much you possess is a useless account. How much soul! How much essence! How much consciousness! What you are! They measure by being, not by having. Your bank balance has no relation to your being. Even if you stand naked, it makes no difference; there may still be essence within you. A man like Mahavira stands naked—yet he has soul; he has everything. Outwardly nothing. How do you measure?
There was never any age as unhappy as this one. There was never as much madness as in this age. And still we go on saying we are prosperous, opulent!
True enough—never before such prosperity. But also never before such poverty. Two different angles of measurement. One measures by wealth, by matter; the other measures by consciousness.
By the perspective of consciousness, man has fallen from God. Therefore, we must return consciousness to the point from which our link with God was broken. Let our stream fall back there—that is the supreme consummation.
But from the perspective of matter, of means and instruments, we are advancing daily. Even to say “we are advancing” may not be right, because machines are advancing by themselves. Now man hardly needs to lend a hand. There are computers; they will keep on developing. And scientists say that by the end of this century we shall create machines that can give birth to machines—machines better than themselves. It will be built in: as a machine nears breaking, it will give birth to a better one—just as you give birth to a child. Then you will not be needed at all. The machines will go on developing. You can sit at home as you are, and still the machines will develop.
The machine is developing; man is being lost. By this reckoning, it is a decline.
The whole East agrees on this: Buddha, Lao Tzu, Krishna—all agree; Jesus, Mohammed—all agree; Zarathustra, Confucius—all agree: childhood is the most excellent state in terms of purity. And that is why when a person, as Lao Tzu says, becomes again a child, he becomes a saint. The circle is complete; one has met the source again. Krishna says the same in the Gita.
This state of the child was once the state of the whole society; this is what the Hindus call Satya Yuga—the age of truth. And it seems right; it even seems scientific. Because the story of one person’s life is the story of all persons.
A child is born innocent, and an old man dies full of all kinds of faults. Satya Yuga is the childhood of society, and Kali Yuga is the old age of society—the last hour, when all manner of diseases have been collected. When the accumulation of experiences has made man clever and dishonest, his guilelessness is lost.
Yet nothing is gained by that dishonesty and cleverness. Because if anything were gained, the old would be happy and the children would be unhappy. In fact, one only loses; nothing is gained. But the mind consoles itself that cleverness...
I have heard: Mulla Nasruddin used to work in a factory, and his hand was cut off—his left hand went into the machine and was severed. After months of treatment, when he returned from the hospital, his friends came to see him. They said, “Nasruddin, thank God your right hand wasn’t cut off—otherwise life would have been useless.” Nasruddin said, “No need to thank God. Actually my right hand had gone into the machine; I pulled it out in time and thrust the left one in.”
This is about as much as we mean by human “intelligence.” Because what is the fruit of it? Where does all this cleverness lead? What remains in the hand in the end? What harm comes to the child? What does he lose by his innocence? The innocent mind cannot lose anything—because it has no grasp.
The Hindu vision accepts that the tale of the individual is the tale of humanity as a whole. The primitive age of humankind was Satya Yuga: people were simple, childlike. And this seems true: even today some primitive tribes remain—simple, childlike.
Then civilization, understanding, mathematics develop. The heart is lost and the intellect becomes dominant. Feeling grows weak and calculation grows strong. Poetry disappears and only mathematics remains. Like America today. Everything becomes numbers; data becomes everything; calculation sits on the throne. There is cleverness. But by the Hindu reckoning it is Kali Yuga—the last hour, the worst time.
Shall we call it development, or shall we call it decline? Is old age the development of the child—or is it the loss of childhood, a fall? If someone asks you which you would choose to be, your answer will decide it. What you would choose to become is what is worthy and superior. What you would not wish to be indicates an error, a mistake, some darkness there.
No one wants to be old; and no one wants to live only in mathematics. Because no glimpse of life’s bliss ever descends into the brain. Life’s bliss, life’s dance, life’s fragrance are experienced only by the heart. The brain can give everything—except bliss. And with the heart, perhaps you will lose everything else; only bliss will remain. But even after losing everything, saving bliss is worth it.
What we call scientific development is the development of science. We have bigger machines; we have bigger houses. But this is not the development of bliss. In those big houses dwell unhappy people. The people in huts were not as unhappy as the people in mansions are. Those who had nothing—no tools, no weapons—were more joyful than we are. We have atomic missiles, the means to reach the moon—but not a single grain of happiness.
The question is: how do we measure? If you measure only by piles of money whether man has developed or declined, then yes, there is development. But if you measure by the man himself, there is decline. It depends on your vision: what is your viewpoint? What is your criterion? How do you measure?
The Hindu vision, the seers of the Upanishads or Krishna of the Gita, measure by humanity. What you have is not valuable; what you are—that is valuable. How much you possess is a useless account. How much soul! How much essence! How much consciousness! What you are! They measure by being, not by having. Your bank balance has no relation to your being. Even if you stand naked, it makes no difference; there may still be essence within you. A man like Mahavira stands naked—yet he has soul; he has everything. Outwardly nothing. How do you measure?
There was never any age as unhappy as this one. There was never as much madness as in this age. And still we go on saying we are prosperous, opulent!
True enough—never before such prosperity. But also never before such poverty. Two different angles of measurement. One measures by wealth, by matter; the other measures by consciousness.
By the perspective of consciousness, man has fallen from God. Therefore, we must return consciousness to the point from which our link with God was broken. Let our stream fall back there—that is the supreme consummation.
But from the perspective of matter, of means and instruments, we are advancing daily. Even to say “we are advancing” may not be right, because machines are advancing by themselves. Now man hardly needs to lend a hand. There are computers; they will keep on developing. And scientists say that by the end of this century we shall create machines that can give birth to machines—machines better than themselves. It will be built in: as a machine nears breaking, it will give birth to a better one—just as you give birth to a child. Then you will not be needed at all. The machines will go on developing. You can sit at home as you are, and still the machines will develop.
The machine is developing; man is being lost. By this reckoning, it is a decline.
The whole East agrees on this: Buddha, Lao Tzu, Krishna—all agree; Jesus, Mohammed—all agree; Zarathustra, Confucius—all agree: childhood is the most excellent state in terms of purity. And that is why when a person, as Lao Tzu says, becomes again a child, he becomes a saint. The circle is complete; one has met the source again. Krishna says the same in the Gita.
Osho's Commentary
“The form of this world-tree is not found here as it has been described, for it has neither beginning nor end nor a well-founded stand. Therefore, cutting with the firm sword of dispassion this Peepal-like world-tree whose very strong roots are egoism, possessiveness and desire...”
This image of the inverted tree that Krishna gives—if you go searching for it, you will not find it. For several reasons.
First, we are a small branch of that tree. We cannot go searching; we cannot stand apart and look. We are organs of that tree. How then can we see that the tree stands upside down—with its roots above and the leaves below? We are leaves or branches; we are parts of the tree; we cannot be apart from it.
Therefore, this inverted state of the world-tree is seen only in the most secret state of meditation. Not before that. Why? Because in that secret state you are no longer a part of the tree; you are no longer a part of the world. Only in samadhi is the full form of this inverted tree seen. It is the experience of a mind in samadhi.
Understand this with the intellect; that is enough. You will not be able to see it. The tree is vast. Scientists say we cannot reach its limits. The more research grows, the more vast the tree appears. New stars are discovered daily; new suns discovered daily.
By now, some four billion suns have been charted. Once it seemed there would be a boundary where exploration would end, where we would reach the final limit. But no boundary is visible. The farther we go, the more we discover.
The tree seems immense, vast. And we are its parts, so we cannot stand far away and see it. There is no possibility of seeing it.
Moreover, it has neither beginning nor end. If it had a beginning, it would be easier to see. If ever it had an end, it would also be easier. It is an infinite series. On one side a planet perishes, on another a planet is formed. On one side a sun is extinguished, in another a sun is enlivened.
Scientists think that perhaps five thousand years from now our sun will cool, as its heat is being spent every day. But some other suns that lay cold are warming up. As our sun cools, another sun will heat up. As soon as this sun cools, life will disappear from this earth. But on some other earth, the sprouting of life will begin.
By scientific reckoning, life exists—should exist—on some fifty thousand earths. One branch of the tree dries, another shoots forth. The tree withers, and new sprouts appear. The old leaves do not even finish falling before the new leaves begin to show.
The chain is infinite. There is no way to stand behind it or ahead of it; no way to stand beside it—because we are its parts; we are the chain.
Nor can it be well understood because it has no fixed “position.” Understand this word. Stithi—position or state—belongs only to God; the world has only movement, not stasis.
Here everything is happening; nothing is in the state of “is.” Hence Buddha said: do not use the word “is.” When we say, “The tree is,” Buddha says, do not speak so, because there is no state of “is.” The tree is “becoming.” When you say, “He is young,” you are wrong; he is becoming young, or he is becoming old. There is no state of “is.” There is always becoming—bhavati. Everything is becoming. Nothing has come to a halt anywhere.
Stithi means halt. Apart from God, nothing and no one has stithi. Everything else is flow. Like a river flowing, you too are flowing. Everything is flowing.
This tree is a flow; therefore it is very difficult to see. Because everything changes. Before you can see, it has changed. Before you can understand, the situation has changed. Before you can grasp, what you were trying to grasp is no longer there; it has become something else. All is smoky here, like clouds. In clouds you cannot hold an outline. You see an elephant forming; before you can really see, it scatters into something else.
The whole world is smoky. Stithi belongs only to God. And until stithi is attained, there can be no stability of understanding, no state of knowing.
Therefore the whole Hindu effort has been: how to free you from movement and make you attain stithi. How the running stops and standing happens. How the river, while flowing, suddenly freezes—becomes ice. How everything becomes still.
This stopping of the inner mind’s race is called meditation. When nothing moves within, no motion remains, no flow remains—everything freezes, becomes still; all vibrations cease—at that very instant you have become God. As long as you flow, there is the world. When you are still, you are God.
Only God can be understood. This will seem very paradoxical. Science says the world can be understood; there is no way to understand God. We cannot even determine whether He is, much less understand Him. And the Gita says only God can be understood, because He is steady. He can be known; He can be relied upon. It is not that you look once and when you look again He has changed. He will be the same—this birth, the next birth, aeons after, ages after—whenever you return, He will be the same.
He is kutastha—unmoving. Nothing changes there. Roam as you will, pass as much time as you will, whenever you return you will find the home just the same. Not a grain has changed.
Only the unchanging can be understood. Because it is trustworthy. It can be held in faith. The world is not trustworthy; it is like a shadow.
There is a famous story by Khalil Gibran. A fox rose early in the morning, seeking food. The sun was rising behind her. A long shadow of the fox was cast. Seeing her shadow, she thought, “Only if I find an elephant today will my tummy be filled!” Such a long shadow—without an elephant there is no hope. And only from the shadow could the fox know how big she was. Otherwise how to know? You too know yourself from a mirror—your shadow!
The fox grew anxious: where to find an elephant? Her hunger grew; she searched and searched. It was noon; the sun went overhead; still no food. And the idea of an elephant made the hunger elephant-sized, fit to digest an elephant—because it is all the mind’s game.
But the elephant did not appear; food was not found. She bent down again to see her shadow. Now the sun was overhead; the shadow had nearly vanished. The fox said, “Even an ant will do now.”
The world is like a shadow. In childhood every person thinks that without an elephant it will not do. In old age every person knows that even an ant will do. The shadow keeps shrinking.
Every child wants to be an Alexander. Every old man says, “The grapes are sour.” Every child sets out to conquer the world. Every old man begins to speak of renunciation—not because renunciation has happened, but because the shadow has shrunk. And now even this little will do. Even if nothing is gained, it will do.
Renunciation here means only that the shadow has shrunk. This is not real renunciation. If it were real, it could come even in youth. There would be no need to wait for old age.
This statement of the fox—that even an ant will do—is not wisdom. If it were wisdom, there would have been no purpose in being deceived by the shadow in the morning. Only the shadow has shrunk.
There is no precise way to understand this world, because it changes every moment. Therefore: “cut with the firm sword of dispassion this Peepal-like world-tree whose very strong roots are I-ness, mine-ness and desire...”
There is no need to be entangled in knowing it; even by knowing and knowing, no one ever knows it.
A hundred years ago science thought a day would soon come when we would know everything. Now scientists say that day will never come. Because the more we know, the more we find there is yet to know. One problem is not solved before fifty others arise. Precisely by solving one, fifty new questions emerge.
Science’s confidence has wavered. Now it too admits that there is no hope of a final knowledge. All knowledge is provisional. That is the meaning of relativity: all knowledge is workable. What we know works up to a point. Beyond that, when we know more, everything goes awry again.
Only God can be known—because there is stithi there. Therefore, apart from religion there is no door to knowledge.
Science opens the door of practical utility, not of knowledge. What we know through it is approximately true. But approximate truth has no meaning; approximate truth is only another name for untruth. Either something is true or it is not. Approximate truth has no value. Utility belongs to science.
Knowledge will be attained through religion—and only when we attain stithi. If God is stithi and we are gati, there can be no union. Only the similar meets the similar. When we too become still, union happens. When we become like Him, then union with Him happens.
The very moment you are still, the experience of the Stilled begins. And there is only one way to be still: understanding the tree will do nothing; rather, cut the three—ego, possessiveness and desire—with the sword of dispassion, and thereafter seek that Supreme State, God.
Do not get into searching the tree. Cut the tree. And set out to seek That of which the tree is the fall—that from which, having fallen, the tree appears. Catch the seed, the source.
Have you ever broken open a seed? You sow a seed; a tree emerges. But does the tree emerge from the very seed you sow? That seed rots, decays, mixes with the soil. The tree does not come from that seed as such. If you break open the seed will you find this tree inside? Even if you search you will not find the tree in the seed.
Botanists say: the tree emerges from the nothingness—the shunya—hidden within the seed. The seed only hides that void within itself; it is just a shell. The shell breaks and mixes with the soil; out of that void the tree emerges.
So the void hidden within the seed is the origin. And until we enter that void, there can be no experience of the root, of truth.
Therefore Buddha bathed his entire teaching in the color of shunyata—emptiness—and said: Enter the void, and Brahman is attained. There is no other Brahman.
Whatever is visible is shell. Within the shell the invisible is hidden. To know that invisible, Krishna says two things. First, by dispassion cut off ego, mine-ness, and desire.
What is dispassion? Dispassion means the realization that wherever I imagine happiness to be, there happiness is not. This will not come by reading scriptures; it will come by understanding the world in its very essence.
You have made many experiments. Wherever a shadow of happiness appeared, you ran. Did you find happiness there? If you never found it—wherever the reflection showed, you went, and it proved to be a mirage. Wherever a sound called, you went, and discovered it was only an echo in empty valleys. You sought rainbows—so colorful from afar; as you came near they vanished; nothing came into your hands. The distillate of these experiences is dispassion.
So dispassion will not arise from reading scripture; that you read Bhartrihari’s Vairagya Shataka and think dispassion will come. Bhartrihari’s Vairagya Shataka arose out of deep indulgence.
Bhartrihari wrote two books. One is called Shringara Shataka—his first experience, the world’s experience. Then he indulged. He committed all the mistakes any “sensible” and courageous man would commit. He did not save himself from mistakes, because one who saves himself from mistakes saves himself from experience. He wandered all the lanes and byways of the world. He trod every footpath. He did not even distinguish between good and bad; wherever his desire led, he went. But he kept alertness and kept testing whether anything was found where desire led him.
Every time, failure. Happiness was never found. It proved delusion every time. Wherever desire showed the path, there futility was found; there sorrow was found.
After walking thousands of desire-paths and arriving at the same experience without exception, dispassion is born. Dispassion is the continuous experience of the failure of desire, its essence and distillate. Then it is not at all difficult to cut ego, mine-ness, and desire.
The realization of dispassion means: wherever desire says happiness is, there happiness is not. Wherever desire says happiness is, there suffering is. And wherever desire says suffering is, there happiness may be. Desire deceives—the great deceiver. This realization is called dispassion. Then seeking in pleasure stops and seeking in pain begins.
We call the search in pain tapas—austerity. Tapas means: now I do not search in pleasure. I searched in pleasure and did not find; now I will search in pain. Because if searching in pleasure brought suffering, perhaps searching in suffering will bring happiness. I will make the reverse journey.
Dispassion is the experienced failure of desire. And as soon as this experience deepens, it becomes a sword. The seeker carries within him the sword of dispassion. As soon as desire says “there is happiness,” he cuts it down: “I know—this has happened many times.”
When Buddha entered the first samadhi, the first words he spoke within—not to anyone else—were these: “Enough, O god of desire; now you need not suffer on my account. I too ran, and because of me you too ran. Now you need not build new houses for me. For I have dropped the foundation; no base is left.”
The sword of dispassion means an inner alertness. Wherever desire begins to cheat, that alertness becomes a barrier. There we can remember again and again that we have been led into this kind of desire many times before.
Mulla Nasruddin’s wife was near death. She said to Mulla, “You will get married after I die—this is certain.” Nasruddin said, “Not quickly. First I will rest a few days.”
This marriage has tired him greatly; it has given much suffering. But no dispassion has arisen. After a little rest, desire becomes alert again. After rest, desire’s demand arises again.
You too are often filled with a faint flash of dispassion. After every desire, after every sexual climax, for a moment every man and woman feels: enough; futile. But after a little rest, desire becomes fresh again. That momentary experience does not become a sword. That drop is not collected in a pitcher. It is lost drop by drop; the pitcher is never filled. The seeker gathers each drop of experience and fills the pitcher. He does not let the drops be lost.
There is not much difference between your experience and Buddha’s. The only difference is that you have no pitcher in which to collect your drops. You have had just as many experiences—more, perhaps, because Buddha died twenty-five centuries ago. You have had more experiences than Buddha. But they occur drop by drop and are lost; they do not gather; they do not become a cutting edge; no sword is forged.
Gather your experiences. Do not let them be lost. Because apart from them there is no other way to wisdom. Drop by drop, you will develop such capacity that desire will grow weak. One does not even have to fight; experience itself is sufficient. Desire gradually becomes impotent.
“Cutting this tree with the sword of dispassion, thereafter one should thoroughly seek that Supreme State of God, having gone to which men do not return. And from whom this ancient tendency of the world-tree has expanded—of that Primal Person I am in refuge,” thus, making a firm resolve...
Understand this process a little carefully.
We are born again and again; we die again and again. But every death is in unconsciousness, and every birth too is in unconsciousness. Therefore you remember nothing of your past; this birth seems the first to you, and the death that comes seems the last. Because there is darkness on both sides; memory is lost. If you can die consciously, you will be born consciously.
But death is still ahead; it lies in the future. You can return backward. The birth you had forty, fifty, sixty years ago can be re-seen consciously. The whole film is stored within you. As I am speaking, the tape recorder is recording. When I have finished speaking, you can rewind the tape and hear it again.
Your brain is exactly such a tape machine; it is recording everything. Nothing is lost there. Whatever you have ever known is imprinted there. If you learn to use this record backward, learn to rewind and play it, you can pass again through the experiences you passed through in unconsciousness. You can go back into the previous birth, and beyond that into death. Then the gateway of the journey opens.
In this way, one who returns backward consciously develops the capacity to be conscious forward as well. He will die—but consciously. He will be born—but consciously. He will live—but consciously. And one who begins to live consciously cannot be bound by the world. It is our unconsciousness that binds us.
By dispassion, cutting mine-ness, ego, and desire, one who seeks God, the primal source, does not return again to the world.
Then there remains no reason to return. We return again and again because of unconsciousness—because we sleep.
“And, having thus firmly resolved ‘I am in the refuge of that Primal Person from whom this ancient world-tree has received its expansion,’ those whose pride and delusion are destroyed, who have conquered the defect of attachment, who dwell steadily in the nature of the Supreme, whose cravings are completely dissolved—such wise ones, freed from the pairs called pleasure and pain, attain that imperishable Supreme State.”
This sutra—“Of that Primal Person, of that primal source, I am in refuge”—is priceless. The feeling of refuge—sharan—is precious. Because even if desire can be cut by dispassion, the ego remains. Desire can be destroyed by dispassion, but then the ego of dispassion becomes dense: “I am a renunciate; I am a sacrificer; I have given up so much; I have destroyed desire.” A deep fire starts burning. Ego takes new forms—subtle, but even more solid.
Therefore Krishna adds one condition: having cut with the sword of dispassion, make a firm resolve, “I am in the refuge of that Primal Person.”
Let this dispassion not become a cause of feeding my ego. Because as long as I am, losing myself in the primal source is not easy; the drop keeps holding itself, and is not willing to dissolve into the ocean.
In the primal source, I will not remain as “I.” My essence will remain; my consciousness will remain. But the form of the “I” will be lost, the name of the “I” will be lost. All name and form will be dissolved.
If the seeker cultivates dispassion and does not cultivate alongside it the feeling of surrender, he goes astray. He may become pure, but even in his purity there will be poison. He may become virtuous, truthful, moral; but his morality, his truth, his purity will stand upon a fundamentally wrong wall—the wall of I-ness: “I am pure, I am virtuous, I am moral.” And this becomes the last wall. So long as “I am,” God is not.
People ask me, “We are seeking God; He is not found.” I tell them, so long as you are the seeker, there is no way He can be found! Because you are the obstacle. The seeker himself is the disturbance. Until the seeker is lost, there is no hope of finding.
Buddha denied God, saying there is no God.
Philosophically there is no difficulty in denying God—but then how will you create the feeling of surrender in the seeker? Whether God is or is not is not what is valuable. There is no need to prove He is.
Buddha said there is no God. But then a snag arose: how to bring about surrender? For that, new formulas had to be found. And those formulas ended up the same; nothing really changed.
So the Buddhist monk says, Buddham sharanam gacchhami, sangham sharanam gacchhami, dhammam sharanam gacchhami—“I go for refuge to the Buddha, to the Sangha, to the Dharma.” There is no escaping “I go for refuge”!
Buddha says there is no God. But the seeker of Buddha has to call Buddha “God” in effect. And Buddha does not refuse saying, “Do not call me God,” because Buddha clearly sees the difficulty. He could say, “Don’t call me God”—as if he would enjoy being called God; such a notion is foolish. But why does he not forbid it? Because a path must be found for the one who is going into refuge. Having dismissed God, someone is needed in whose refuge one can go.
But Buddha will die tomorrow; God never dies. Then what? To whom will you go for refuge? If you say Buddha is somewhere in the sky and will help from there, he becomes God. If you say he abides and helps, he becomes God.
So: sangham sharanam gacchhami. Hence a second formula had to be added—that the community of monks, the Sangha of seekers and siddhas—go to its refuge. It will remain.
But even that need not remain forever. From India the Buddhist Sangha disappeared. Then to whom will one go? So Buddha had to find a third formula: dhammam sharanam gacchhami—go to the refuge of the Dharma. The Dharma will remain.
But what difference does it make! One must go into refuge, for without refuge the seeker’s ego does not dissolve. Therefore Patanjali said a unique thing: God is a method to lose oneself. Whether God exists or not is not the question. “God” is only a device for losing oneself. For Hindus, the philosophical discussion whether God exists or not has no value.
Christians worked hard to prove that God exists—but nothing is proved by their labor. The arguments by which you prove can be cut; they are cut. There is no argument so great that it cannot be cut.
Hindus have never tried to prove God—because they say God is only a trick, a device, a method: a method so that you can go into refuge.
Therefore when Christians or Muslims first came to India, they were greatly puzzled: how foolish these Hindus are! Someone is worshipping a stone; someone is worshipping a tree; someone is worshipping a river. A stone! Not even a statue—just a rough rock smeared with vermilion—Hanuman-ji! It looked very strange: what is all this?
But they did not know that Hindus have discovered a profound principle. They say: it does not matter whom you worship; the question is that you worship. It is meaningless where you bow; what matters is that you bow.
So bow before a Peepal tree. It is a pretext. The Peepal tree is a pretext; God too is a pretext. Whether He is or is not is secondary. If it helps you to bow, then bow. Because by bowing you will know That which without bowing you can never know. And That is hidden within you.
Therefore Hinduism has been the most difficult religion for the world to understand. It is the least understood religion—because its forms appear so rough. But there is a reason for their roughness: a very deep truth has come into Hindu hands. God is not important; the bowed seeker, the surrendered seeker is important.
Wherever refuge is found, by whatever medium it is found—whether that medium is or is not is secondary. If refuge is found, everything is accomplished.
Krishna says: “Having firmly resolved, ‘I am in the refuge of that Primal Person,’ pride and delusion are destroyed...”
Naturally—whoever goes into refuge loses pride and delusion. One who does not go into refuge never loses pride and delusion.
That is why I am often amazed: Jain or Buddhist monks become filled with deep pride. Jains have even less chance of refuge; Buddhists at least found a way to go into the refuge of Buddha. Mahavira said: remain without refuge; go to no one’s refuge.
There is no mistake in the statement: if, without taking refuge, you can be without ego, nothing is greater than this; then there is no need of refuge. But who will be egoless without refuge? Once in millions perhaps, one person who has not gone into refuge becomes egoless. Even by going again and again into refuge, ego does not dissolve; then without bowing it is very difficult. Mahavira’s ego must have dissolved; those who follow Mahavira face the difficulty; they cannot bow.
Therefore the Jain monk practices tremendous austerity—perhaps none in any religion matches it. His practice is intense. But his ego is equally intense. A Jain monk’s stiff pride—one cannot even imagine such stiffness in a Sufi fakir. The Sufi would be astonished: what are you doing? Such stiffness! A Jain monk cannot greet anyone—because there is no one to whom one should go for refuge.
I was with a great Jain monk, Acharya Tulsi, many years ago. Morarji Desai came to see him—then he held power. Nehru was alive, and Morarji was in office. Morarji folded his hands to the Acharya. The Acharya cannot fold his hands to anyone; he can only bless.
Morarji is no less of a monk than any; a thorough moralist, hard as stone. He was immediately hurt. The first question he asked was: “I folded my hands in greeting; why did you not fold yours in return? Why are you seated above, and why am I made to sit below?”
Both are saintly men! And a big snag arose. Ten or twenty scholars from across the country had been invited to a colloquy; I too had been invited. I thought the meeting is over—how will it proceed now! Morarji said, “Until I get an answer to this, there is no point in talking further.”
Tulsi-ji remained silent. What could he say? A Jain monk is not permitted to greet anyone. No one is worthy of greeting. There is no one whose refuge one goes to.
I said: “If this is the rule, then you should also stop the other from greeting you. To accept another’s greeting and not return it is a bit dishonest as a rule. Or you should warn him: ‘Be careful! Do as you wish, but we will not return it.’”
And I said to Morarji: “Is it that his sitting above offends you—or that your sitting below offends you? This needs to be clarified first, then we can proceed. After all, a lizard too is walking above; that does not offend you. You being seated below—that pricks. Had you too been seated above, there would be no difficulty.”
A moralist, however moral, does not become religious. There is no doubt about Morarji’s morality, nor about Acharya Tulsi’s. Both are saintly men—but the ego is dense. And when a saint’s ego is dense, it is more dangerous than a sinner’s. He cannot be made to bow. A sinner has a little fear: “I am a sinner”—he bows. A saint has no fear. How will you make him bow? The sinner, out of his own fear, remains bowed. The saint’s stiffness is rigid: he will break, he will not bend.
But Hindus have grasped the fundamental principle: if by any means you can learn to bow, if by any means the feeling of refuge can arise, that alone is the supreme practice.
Naturally, pride and delusion will be destroyed. And as pride, attachment and delusion are destroyed, one begins to be established in the nature of God. For these are what shake you. Because of these there is vibration; because of these there is restlessness and unease; because of these there is motion.
One whose being begins to be established in God attains the imperishable state—such wise ones, free from the dualities called pleasure and pain, attain that Supreme, imperishable state.
That Supreme State is hidden within. As soon as our inner trembling stops, the vibration ceases, the flame becomes steady—that Supreme State becomes available to us. What has always been ours is recognized—we are filled with pratyabhijna, recognition of who we are. As soon as the “I” dissolves, the knowing of “Who am I?” arises.
Enough for today.