Geeta Darshan #4

Sutra (Original)

असक्तिरनभिष्वङ्‌गः पुत्रदारगृहादिषु।
नित्यं च समचित्तत्वमिष्टानिष्टोपपत्तिषु।। 9।।
मयि चानन्ययोगेन भक्तिरव्यभिचारिणी।
विविक्तदेशसेवित्वमरतिर्जनसंसदि।। 10।।
अध्यात्मज्ञाननित्यत्वं तत्त्वज्ञानार्थदर्शनम्‌।
एतज्ज्ञानमिति प्रोक्तमज्ञानं यदतोऽन्यथा।। 11।।
Transliteration:
asaktiranabhiṣvaṅ‌gaḥ putradāragṛhādiṣu|
nityaṃ ca samacittatvamiṣṭāniṣṭopapattiṣu|| 9||
mayi cānanyayogena bhaktiravyabhicāriṇī|
viviktadeśasevitvamaratirjanasaṃsadi|| 10||
adhyātmajñānanityatvaṃ tattvajñānārthadarśanam‌|
etajjñānamiti proktamajñānaṃ yadato'nyathā|| 11||

Translation (Meaning)

Non-attachment, and no overfond clinging to children, spouse, home, and the like।
And constant equanimity when the desired and the undesired arise।। 9।।

To Me, through undivided union, a devotion that never wavers।
Resort to secluded places, and disinclination for the crowds of men।। 10।।

Constancy in knowledge of the Self, and vision of the goal of truth-knowledge।
This is declared to be knowledge; whatever is otherwise is ignorance।। 11।।

Osho's Commentary

Now let us take the aphorism.

And the absence of attachment to son, wife, house, wealth, etc., and the lack of possessiveness, and the mind remaining the same in the face of pleasant and unpleasant—meaning that when things favorable or unfavorable occur, there is no disturbance like joy or sorrow.

Keep one thing in mind here: equanimity. Whether there is pain or pleasure, whether what is dear happens or what is disagreeable, success or failure, fame or defame—both have equal value. To not consider even a bit of either as desirable or undesirable is the sign of the wise. Equanimity is the cornerstone of the wise.

But how will this happen? When success comes it feels pleasing. We don’t decide, “When success comes I will be happy.” We find ourselves happy. No effort is needed, no decision of ours.

When a loved one returns home, we become glad—again, no effort. And when someone insults us, we are hurt—no thinking required. Where is the chance to choose? Things happen, and only then we know. When we are already sad, we come to know we are sad.

Krishna says, equanimity. How is it to arise? There is a process—remember it.

Whatever experience arises within, do not let it arise unconsciously. Bring awareness into it. If someone abuses you, before anger comes, become absolutely still for five moments. Say to anger, “Wait five moments.” Say to sorrow, “Wait five moments.” This interval is essential—to create perspective. After five moments ask, “Do I want to be sad or not?” Make sorrow a choice; don’t let it be a swoon. Otherwise you can do nothing.

Gurdjieff wrote that his father gave him a mantra at the moment of death, which changed his life. Dying—Gurdjieff was only nine—his father said, “I have nothing material to give you. But I have one treasure, through which I have known supreme joy. I give you this key. Now you may not understand; just remember it. One day you will.”

Gurdjieff’s father said: “Keep only this in mind—do not let any impression, whether of sorrow or joy, happen instantly. Leave a little space. If someone abuses you, tell him you will reply in twenty-four hours, and then reply precisely after twenty-four hours. If you feel like stabbing, stab after twenty-four hours. But keep the interval.”

Gurdjieff wrote: this changed my whole life. Because it was his dying father’s word; after that the father died, the command was engraved in the mind. If someone abused him, he would say, “Forgive me. I have given a pledge to my father—I will reply after twenty-four hours.” And after twenty-four hours it no longer seemed worth replying; the abuse had no value—the matter had become meaningless. He would go and say, “You abused me—thank you. I have nothing to reply.”

An abuse can be answered only instantly. Remember: the mechanism of abuse is such that its answer can only be immediate. Delay—and you have missed it.

Dale Carnegie wrote in his memoirs that a woman wrote him a letter. He had spoken on Lincoln on the radio, on Lincoln’s birthday, and had made some factual errors. The woman wrote, “When you know nothing about Lincoln, at least don’t dare to lecture—on radio! The whole nation heard, people must have laughed. Correct your mistake and apologize.” It was a very angry letter.

Dale Carnegie drafted an equally venomous reply at once. But it was late; he thought he would mail it in the morning, and left it on the table. In the morning, before posting, he reread it and felt, “This is a bit much—no need for so much anger.” The heat had cooled. He wrote a second letter—still with a slight edge. Then he thought, “If twelve hours make such a difference, I’ll wait another twelve. What’s the hurry?” After twelve more hours he read it and felt even that was too much. He wrote a third. Then he decided: “I will read and revise morning and evening for seven days, and on the seventh day I’ll write the final.” On the seventh day he wrote a loving, apologetic letter: “You pointed out my mistake; I am deeply obliged. In future, if you notice any other error, please inform me.” The woman came to meet him—and a lifelong friendship was born.

What happened? Distance. We act in haste; whatever happens, we do in a swoon. If you want equanimity, learn the art of creating a gap. But we are clever; we can cheat even with the gap.

I’ve heard: a father saw his son pinning a neighbor’s child on the lawn, sitting on his chest. He shouted, “Munna, how many times have I told you: before fighting or hitting anyone, count to a hundred!” The boy said, “That’s exactly what I’m doing—counting to a hundred. But so he doesn’t run away while I count, I’m holding him down. As soon as I reach a hundred, I’ll fix him.”

Counting to a hundred was prescribed to create a gap. Don’t do this kind of cleverness; otherwise there is no point. The gap is to bring equanimity. With distance, sorrow doesn’t hurt, and pleasure doesn’t intoxicate. Pleasure and pain are swoons—instant, mechanical.

Like a light switch—inside you the button gets pressed: you are happy, you are sad. When a switch is pressed, electricity cannot say, “I won’t flow.” It is a machine. But you are not a machine.

If someone abuses you and you get angry at once, you are behaving like a machine—like a switch. Pause. He abused you—true. But you are your own master. Do not hurry to pick up the abuse. If someone honors you, that is his affair; if someone flatters you, that is his affair. Do not melt at once. Wait; give a little time. Stand at a small distance and watch what is happening.

You will find that the more distance you create, the more pleasure and pain equalize. The closer you are, the greater the gap between them; the further you stand, the smaller it becomes. When one can look from afar, pleasure and pain become one—two sides of the same coin. That day equanimity is attained.

Krishna says: equanimity is the sign of the wise. And “by the steady practice of meditation-yoga, established in oneness with Me the Supreme, unwavering devotion; fondness for solitude and pure places; and a disinclination toward the company of sense-attached people.”

“And established in one-ness with Me the Supreme.” A very proud-sounding statement—“with Me the Supreme!” Krishna keeps saying: establish such a relationship with Me, the Divine.

The egotist will stumble. Arjuna, because of deep intimacy and nearness, did not once ask, “Why this refrain—‘in Me the Divine’?” He did not even ask, “Why do you keep calling yourself God, and saying it with your own mouth?” He was so intimate that he knew: this declaration is not of ego; it is only a device to invite Arjuna into surrender.

“By the steady meditation-yoga, unwavering devotion…”

Unwavering devotion—understand this a bit. Vyabhichar means attachment to the many. We call a woman vyabhicharini who shows love to her husband and also to her lovers—love as play. Whoever she meets in private for a moment, with him too love begins. There is no place in the mind for one.

Vyabhichar means the mind has no place for one—it is fragmented. Many lovers, many husbands—that is vyabhichar. When the one remains, the mind becomes avyabhichari—undivided.

And the interesting thing is: this emphasis on the “one beloved” is not for the beloved’s sake. If the lover can love one person wholly, all the fragments of his mind begin to gather, and he attains a sense of oneness. The more your loves, the more your fragments—the more pieces your heart will have. If you have ten or five loves, you will have that many voices within. You cannot be one man if you have ten loves—you will be ten men. A crowd will be inside.

The insistence on unwavering devotion—“if there is one, let only one remain”—means: as the sense of one deepens, inner unity intensifies; integration ripens within. Hence the lover attains yoga, and the yogi becomes a lover.

If someone can love one person with his whole being, oneness happens through that love. Inside, integration happens; fragments join. Many voices cease; one tone, one mood remains. Through that one tone one can enter the infinite. Leaving the many for the one—and then even the one drops, and the infinite is attained.

Krishna says, unwavering devotion!

Devote yourself exclusively to Me alone. Let not even the thought remain that there might be someone else to whom surrender is due. If even that much thought lingers, surrender cannot be complete.

Many come to me and say, “We went to this guru, then that one, then another.” They keep moving among gurus. Their adulterous mental state never lets them arrive. I tell them: “Stay with one guru.” They ask, “How can we be sure he is the right one unless we go to many?” I say, “Even if he is wrong, stay with one. Whether he is right or wrong is not so important; your staying with one will be revolutionary for you. Whether he is right or wrong—that’s his matter. Don’t worry about it.”

Many times it happens that with a wrong guru too, a true disciple realizes truth. It sounds upside down. But we know the tale of Ekalavya. There the question of a wrong guru does not even arise—there was no guru at all, only an idol of Dronacharya. And yet through that idol he attained the consummate skill of concentration.

How? An idol cannot teach. Even Dronacharya himself could not teach Arjuna as much as his stone image taught Ekalavya. Dronacharya had no hand in it. If anyone did, it was only Ekalavya’s feeling and devotion. He stayed by that stone idol with such unity of feeling, such unwavering devotion, that near a stone idol he encountered a living guru.

And Guru Dronacharya was not of such caliber as Ekalavya took him to be and gained. For Dronacharya deceived Ekalavya—he had his thumb cut off to preserve his wealthy pupil’s primacy.

Dronacharya was not as worthy as Ekalavya considered him—but that is secondary. Whether Dronacharya was worthy is not the point. The greatness was Ekalavya’s single-minded devotion. And when that guru asked for his thumb, Ekalavya must have understood—he surely did—that the moment the thumb is gone, he will not remain an archer. Dronacharya asked precisely because, seeing Ekalavya’s aim, absorption, and art, his legs trembled. He felt Arjuna would be eclipsed—indeed he was. Arjuna never had such devotion to Drona as Ekalavya had to Drona. And Drona was available to Arjuna, not even available to Ekalavya.

This tale is sweet and meaningful. Ekalavya cut off his thumb. I say his external archery was lost, but what yoga he attained within by cutting off that thumb! For Ekalavya, Krishna didn’t need to speak a Gita. In that moment of cutting the thumb he must have attained supreme unity. Not a shadow of doubt arose! In such undoubtingness, if the Divine is not attained, then never.

So drop this worry: “Is the guru right?” How will you know? Roaming among a thousand you will only be more confused and fragmented. Better learn to stay. There is virtue in staying. Better learn to surrender to one. There is the secret in surrender. To whom—that is not so important.

Often surrender to the “wrong” brings more precious results. Understand: surrender to the right is natural; no virtue of yours in it—he is right, so you are compelled. But if a man seems wrong and you can surrender, the virtue is certainly yours.

Thus many gurus create around themselves a “wrong” aura—this too is part of surrender. If everything around them looked good, there would be no challenge in surrender. They erect a web of misleading signs. If someone surrenders amidst that, then unwavering devotion is born.

Krishna says: fondness for solitude and pure places, and disinclination toward the company of those attached to sense-objects.

You always seek a crowd—and usually the wrong crowd. Because seeking crowds is itself a sign of a wrong mind. What do you do meeting others? A little slander, some neighborhood rumors—whose wife ran away, whose son cheated, who stole, who is dishonest. These are your topics. This juice does not come alone; you need two or four. Hence you seek crowds.

For one day, watch all your conversations: where you sit, why you sit, why you talk, what taste is there. If this taste persists, knowledge will never arise—it is all a device to protect ignorance.

Krishna says: a sign of the wise is the taste for solitude. The wise would rather be alone.

Why? Because only in aloneness can one encounter oneself; only in aloneness can one be free of the crowd’s influence and conditioning; only in aloneness can one become quiet and silent; only in aloneness can one slip within and open the door that is the Divine’s.

No one reaches the Divine while living in the crowd. Whether Buddha, Mahavira, or Muhammad—before arriving, they slipped into solitude. Mahavira was silent for twelve years. Buddha went to the forest for six. Muhammad remained on a mountain in utter solitude for thirty days. Jesus was crucified at thirty-three; Christians have only the last three years of his story—the previous thirty passed in silent practice.

This slipping into silence, this taste for solitude, is a sign of the wise. The taste for crowds, for groups, clubs, the hunt for friends—is dangerous.

Do not imagine only clubs are clubs. People go even to religious discourses for the same reason—especially women—to get a chance to discuss everything that they get no opportunity to elsewhere. All the ladies gather there; they get all the stories and ailments; they chat. The discourse is a pretext.

You can go to the temple too—not to meet God, but to gossip with those who come. You might even go to a guru for news of worldly intrigues, not for solitude.

Remember: only alone can you meet Truth; there is no way to take the crowd along. Even your closest friend will not enter samadhi with you. Your wife cannot enter meditation with you. Your son cannot enter the realm of devotion with you. There you will be alone. Therefore savor aloneness; whenever you find a moment, enjoy being alone.

But we panic. A little alone and we feel we’ll die; fear arises; “I’ll get bored—what will I do!”

A very interesting thing: you are so bored with yourself that you cannot abide with yourself even briefly. And when someone else gets bored with you, you think he’s a bad person. When you yourself are bored of yourself, others will surely be bored.

In solitude, talk a little with yourself. Try an experiment. In Japan there is a method of meditation: they tell the seeker, whatever is going on within, speak it aloud. Don’t speak inside—speak loudly. Sit alone, and whatever comes, speak it out.

You will be shocked. In an hour you’ll say, “What a boring person I am!” Yet this is what you speak to others. When others get bored, you think they lack understanding: “I am saying very high things and they are bored!” But when everyone is bored with himself, remember he will bore others too.

Why do others listen? Not because your words have any charm—but because after you finish, they will speak. The most boring person is the one who doesn’t give you a chance; he keeps talking. You say, “He’s so boring”—it only means you alone are being bored; give me my turn too!

Man experiences so much pain with himself and still thinks he will give happiness to others. The husband wants to give heaven to the wife, the wife to the husband. She thinks she will make heaven for him, but she cannot remain alone even for an hour—she feels it is hell. If alone she feels hell, she will make only hell for her husband—how will she make heaven?

No one makes heaven for another because we are not willing to be with ourselves.

On this earth, a little breeze of heaven sometimes blows around those who know the art of being with themselves. Understand this: the one who knows how to be in solitude—you may receive a few drops of nectar near him. But the one who cannot stay with himself has had no contact with life.

Krishna says: the habit of living in a pure place, in solitude—in the purity of your inner space—and disinclination toward the company of sense-attached people.

If you must visit someone, visit one who will not pull you toward the world, but toward renunciation—who lifts you beyond objects, who points to the ultimate temple of life. Otherwise, avoid crowds and groups.

“And constant abiding in spiritual knowledge, and seeing the Supreme everywhere—this is knowledge; what is contrary is ignorance.” To see the Divine everywhere—that is knowledge; its opposite is ignorance.

It is very difficult to see the Divine everywhere. If you cannot see within yourself, how will you see outside? First see within that the Divine is present—even if distorted, entangled, bound in prison—He is the Divine nonetheless. In all your restlessness and troubles, it is still the Divine. Begin to see the Divine in yourself and around you. Gradually the God-sense should become such that only the Divine is seen, others only His forms. This mood can be cultivated, but it must begin with oneself.

Like throwing a stone into a pond—first a small ripple forms around it; then the circles spread to the far shore. The first stone of Divinity must be thrown into your own depths; then the ripples spread and reach all around.

As long as you see sin and hell in yourself and no God, you cannot see God in anyone. Even if you bang your head before an idol and Krishna and Rama themselves appear, you will not see God.

The washerman who spoke against Rama—because of whom Rama sent Sita away—lived in Rama’s own city; he didn’t see Rama in Rama, nor Sita in Sita. He saw in Sita an adulteress. He himself must have been adulterous. What is within us is what we see.

Even if Rama stands before you, you will see something wrong; you’ll feel, “Something is fishy.”

A friend wrote a thesis on Rama, trying to prove Shabari was not an old woman but a young one, and Rama’s relationship with her was of love, not devotion. I know this friend; he sometimes visited me. I asked him, “True or false—I don’t know, and I have no interest in peeping into anyone’s relationships. How did this idea occur to you? It may be true—I don’t know—and I am no inspector. This is between Rama and Shabari. But how did this thought arise? It must have come from your own experience and way of seeing. Many research Rama, but no one has researched this.”

These gentlemen have “discovered” that Sita’s banishment— the washerman was just a pretext; Rama wanted to banish her anyway. What was in Rama’s mind we cannot know. But the state of the mind that researches such things—one can think about that.

Until you can see the Divine in yourself, you will not see Him even in Rama. And the day you see Him in yourself, you will see Him even in Ravana. For when, amidst your pains, anxieties, and desires, you experience the inner flame, you know: however much sin surrounds it, the flame is the Divine’s. However much dust on the glass chimney, the flame within burns pure. Dust never settles on the flame; the flame is never impure. Yes, the glass can be dirty. Once you experience that flame within your dirtiest casing, immediately the whole world fills with the same flame.

The sign of the wise is the experience of the Divine everywhere.

We will pause for five minutes. Please do not get up in between. Leave only after the kirtan is complete.

Questions in this Discourse

A friend has asked, Osho, I am very restless, and so much energy gets used up in this restlessness. How can I make use of it, and what is its cause?
To be human is to be restless. More or less, but it is difficult to find a human being who is not restless. Man will be restless.

Nietzsche has said that man is like a bridge, resting on two shores, hanging in mid-air. Behind is the world of the animal, ahead the dimension of the divine, and man is suspended in between. He is not an animal, and he has not yet become divine. He has risen a little above animality, but his roots still spread into it; in any moment of unconsciousness he slips back into the animal. And ahead lies the vast possibility of the divine; the flowers of divinity can blossom in him.

The past pulls—because in the past are our experiences, our roots. The future also pulls—because in the future are our possibilities and hopes. Man is a tension between past and future.

No animal is as restless as man. Look into the eyes of animals: no restlessness, no disturbance. The animal is content with its being. A dog is a dog. A cat is a cat. A lion is a lion. And you cannot say to a lion that he is a little less of a lion; you cannot even say to a dog that he is less of a dog. But you can say to a man that he is somewhat less of a man. All dogs are equally dogs, but not all men are equally human. A dog is a dog from birth. Man, at birth, is only a seed. He may become; he may not.

Except for man, all animals are born complete; man is incomplete. And in that incompleteness is restlessness. There are two ways to become whole.

Either man falls back and becomes animal again—then there is a little relief. The relief you feel in anger, the relief in violence, in sex, in alcohol, is the relief of becoming animal again. Falling back, you drop the idea that there is something to become. You become content—by falling back.

But that relief can last only a little while. It cannot last, because in nature there is no way to go back. An old man cannot become a child again. For a short while he can forget himself; he can drown himself in children’s toys, even arrange a doll’s wedding. For a little while he may forget that he is old. But it is only forgetting. No old man can become a child again.

And how long will this forgetting last? Soon it breaks. Reality cannot be forgotten for long. The moment it breaks, the old man is again old.

Man can become animal. In anger you can enjoy for a while—but how long? The moment you come out of anger, repentance begins. You can forget for a while in alcohol—but how long? When you come out of it, repentance begins.

All the methods of unconsciousness are paths back to the animal. As man is, if he remains as he is, he is restless. If he falls back, he gets peace—but only for a moment. What we call pleasures are the pleasures of animality. And therefore pleasures are fleeting—because we cannot be animals forever. There is no way back. The only way is forward.

And the second way is: man goes beyond restlessness by knowing himself one with the divine. That which is hidden within him becomes fully manifest. Man becomes his own future. He becomes that which he can be. Then the same kind of peace arises as you see in the eyes of a cow. Hence in the eyes of saints, a simplicity like that of animals often returns. But it is like the animals’, not bestial.

The animal is peaceful too—peaceful because he has not yet become aware of restlessness; the idea of evolution has not arisen; the aspiration to move beyond has not been born; he has no wings yet to touch the sky and fly toward freedom; the dream of truth has not yet arisen. He is asleep. As a sleeping man is peaceful, so is the animal.

The saint also becomes peaceful—but because the dream is fulfilled, because truth is attained. The saint is complete. Now he is no longer incomplete. In incompleteness, restlessness will remain.
So you are not restless alone; man himself is restless. And the question is: what use to make of this restlessness? Use this restlessness to attain what the future holds; to become that which you can be. Do not remain entangled in restlessness. Do not go on carrying it—use it.
We too use restlessness, but we tend to use it in two ways. Both are dangerous.

Either we use restlessness to throw it out—in anger, in violence, in hatred, in jealousy, in competition, in struggle. We use it to unload our restlessness. That will not end restlessness, because it is not the cause.

Until the inner image in you is polished, until your intrinsic nature is revealed, until the seed hidden within you becomes a flower, your restlessness will not go. Yes, for a little while you can pour your restlessness onto someone. You will feel relief in that venting. But you are wasting your power. With the very energy by which a great journey could have been made, you are only giving pain to others and to yourself. This is one way we use it.

And the second is this: when we cannot throw restlessness out and cannot get rid of it, then we use ourselves to forget it. Someone drinks, someone goes and sits in a cinema. Someone starts listening to music. We try to forget the storm moving within—to keep it out of mind. This too is a waste of time and energy.

There is a third and rightful way: understand this restlessness and transform it into sadhana—into practice. This restlessness can become practice. There is no need to forget it, nor to push it into diseased and violent pathways. This restlessness can have a spiritual use. It can become a ladder. It is power; it is a boiling current of energy. You can direct this current upward. Try small experiments.

It may never have occurred to you. When anger comes, you think there is only one way—to express it. Or there is the way of suppressing it and swallowing it. But anger that is swallowed will surface sooner or later. Swallowed anger cannot really be swallowed; the poison will keep boiling and will come out somewhere. And then the danger is greater, because it will come out on those with whom it had no connection. Its shadow will fall somewhere and life will be harmed.

Michelangelo has written that whenever anger seizes him, he picks up his chisel and begins to work on his sculpture—he starts breaking stone. He writes that he is amazed: after five to seven minutes of breaking stone he finds himself light; the anger has vanished. There is no longer any need to break a person.

Psychologists say that when you feel anger, try a small experiment. You will be surprised: anger can set out on a new journey. Michelangelo makes a statue out of anger—anger becomes creative.

Psychologists say: when anger comes, just clench your fists as hard as you can five times and then open them, and your anger will dissipate. You will say, It cannot be that easy. Try it. Put in your full strength—clench as hard as you can and open, then clench and open—five times. Then look back inside: where is the anger? You will be surprised—anger has become lighter, or has disappeared, or has ended.

In Japan they teach children: whenever anger arises, take deep breaths and let them out. Take fifteen or twenty deep inhalations and exhalations and you will find the anger has dissolved. You neither had to suppress it nor express it on someone. And twenty deep breaths are beneficial for health—anger has become creative.

The fixed roads are not the last roads. Spirituality teaches a new use for all the restlessness of life. For example, when anger comes, close your eyes and meditate on the anger. Clenching fists still wastes energy; breathing gives a little benefit to health; making a statue does a little creative work.

But when anger arises, close your eyes and pay attention to the anger. Do nothing—just see what anger is. Contemplate anger. Sit as a witness—as if someone else is angry and you are watching. Observe your anger-filled image in its entirety.

In a short while of observing you will find anger has ended; it has dissolved. Just as it dissolves by clenching the fists or by breaking stone, so too it dissolves by observation.

But when anger dissolves through observation, the power that was hidden in anger becomes part of your inner being. When you dissolve anger by clenching your fists, the energy goes out. When you break stone, it goes out there as well. But when you simply observe—remain inside as a pure witness: anger has arisen, I will watch it, and I will do nothing; I will take neither the side of anger nor oppose it, I will only watch. I will not even say anger is bad. I will not say one should not be angry. I will not say, Why do I get angry? I will just watch. As a cloud passes in the sky, I will watch the cloud of anger within. As someone passes along a road, I will watch the anger passing within. Just watch—do nothing.

And you will be astonished: in a few moments, before your very eyes, anger has become still. And the power that was anger’s is now available within you.

The wise one brings all of life’s restlessness into the service of the inner journey through observation and witnessing. It becomes fuel. That is why many times it has happened that the greatly angry have become spiritual in a moment.

We have heard the story of Valmiki. There are many such stories. And we are surprised: how did such angry, violent, murderous types enter spiritual life in a single instant? The secret is this.

In fact, if you do not even have the energy of anger, you have no fuel—what will you use? Therefore the mediocre angry person does not become spiritual—note this. The ordinarily lustful person does not become spiritual. The ordinarily wicked person does not become spiritual. With whatever he has, he can be only lukewarm; he cannot boil. His energy is feeble.

So do not be alarmed. If restlessness is great—it is good fortune. If lust is intense—it is good fortune. If anger is terrible—it is great grace. It means you have fuel. Now, whether with that fuel you travel or burn your house down—whether you perish in it or use that energy to set out on a journey—this is in your hands.

Whatever God has given is useful. However distorted it may appear, however dangerous or seemingly sinful, whatever man has been given has its utility. And if you cannot make use of it, none but you is responsible.

There are people who, if given manure, will heap it up in the house and fill it with filth—their home will be filled with stench. And there are people who will spread the manure in the garden, and from that very manure flowers will emerge, and their home will be filled with fragrance. Those who sit hoarding the manure will abuse God: What kind of curse is this, that you dumped this muck on us! Those who know turn manure into flowers.

The fragrance of flowers is the very stench of manure transformed. The colors in the flowers are manure itself; all of it is transformed manure.

In man, anger, hatred, violence are manure; the flower of spirituality can bloom—if you make a small effort to awaken the witness. The witnessing state becomes the gardener.

So do not be frightened by restlessness; do not be frightened by agitation. Even if madness is boiling within, do not be afraid. Use it. Become its witness. And whenever anything seizes you within, take it as an opportunity for meditation—meditate on it.

But we do the opposite. When anger comes, we chant Ram-Ram. We think we are meditating. The chanting of Ram is only a diversion. Anger is boiling within, and you are occupying the mind elsewhere so that you do not have to get entangled with the anger. By chanting Ram-Ram like this you are only saving yourself for a little while, shifting the mind.

But the anger remains there; it will not change by your turning away. It will change by your standing your ground and seeing it. If you turn your back, anger will make deeper wounds within and lay down roots. Fix both your eyes on anger. This is the moment to consciously see anger.

When lust seizes the mind, do not run. Do not panic. Do not chant Ram-Ram. Look lust straight in the face. A direct encounter with the passions is necessary. But man has been taught to run. He has been told, wherever something bad appears—run away.

But where will you run? The bad is within you; it will go with you. There is no way to run away from yourself. If evil were outside somewhere, we could run. It stands within—we will have to change it. We will have to use this manure. And using it is not very difficult.

There are only two difficulties. One: we have already formed ill will. The person who has made manure his enemy will not be able to use it. We already believe anger is bad, hatred is bad—everything is bad—and we are full of all that. The notion of “bad” does not allow seeing. The notion of “bad” does not allow impartial thought. The notion of “bad” sets us to running and fighting before understanding.

So first drop your notions. Begin to look without preconception. Facts reveal themselves only to those who look at them without any notion. Those who look through notions merely confirm their own notions.

Second, drop the habit of running away. Across the whole earth we have been taught escape: run, protect yourself. No one ever attains victory by running. So anger comes—you switch on the radio. Lust arises—you start reading the Ramayana. Hatred arises, the feeling of violence comes—you go to the temple.

Do not run. Nothing will happen by running. That which is hidden within will keep growing stronger. Neither the temple can erase it, nor the Ramayana. No one can erase it—except your direct seeing. You will have to stare it down. What is within requires a naked seeing.

But the runner does not see. And the runner slowly becomes weak. The more he runs, the more his enemies pursue him—because those enemies are not outside. They are with you; they are in you. They are your parts.

Two things: first, drop taking sides. Taking sides creates great difficulty.

I have heard that at Oxford University a football match was being played between two teams: Protestant Christians and Catholic Christians. Thousands gathered to watch—Protestants and Catholics both—because both had their teams. And it was no longer just about football; it became about religion. If the Catholics won, the Catholic religion won; if the Protestants won, the Protestant religion won.

There was great tension and excitement, and supporters of both sides were present to cheer their own teams. The Catholic team played very well; victory seemed near. One man was leaping, cheering, tossing his hat in joy. Those nearby thought he must be a Catholic.

Then the wind changed, and the Protestant team began to look like the winner. But the same man kept tossing his hat and dancing.

People around him grew a little concerned. A neighbor asked, “Excuse me, are you Catholic or Protestant? On whose side are you dancing? In whose joy are you dancing? Because when the Catholics were winning, you were tossing your hat and rejoicing. And now that the Catholics are losing and the Protestants are winning, you are still rejoicing. So for whom is your joy?”

The man said, “I’m not rejoicing for either side; I’m enjoying the game.” The one who asked told his wife, “This man seems to be an atheist.”

“I’m enjoying the game,” the man said—he spoke something of great value. “It doesn’t matter to me who wins. The game is so joyous that I am enjoying it. I am on no one’s side.” To that man it seemed he must be an atheist—because he was neither Catholic nor Protestant.

Learn to enjoy the mind a little. But you have already become either Catholic or Protestant. You have already taken positions, and therefore you cannot enjoy the powers of the mind. You have already concluded: anger is bad, lust is sin, greed is bad. This is bad, that is bad; this is good. You have accepted it all. In truth, you know nothing. Because if you truly knew what is bad, the bad would stop at once. If you truly knew what is good, the good would enter your life. You know nothing—you have only heard; people have said it; it is the conditioning and air of thousands of years. You sit believing it, and because of that you are caught in a greater obstacle.

You “know” anger is bad—and anger happens. So the obstacle becomes double. You have to suffer the pain of anger, and then you have to suffer the pain of having been angry. This is double suffering. Anger alone was enough to trouble a man. Now you have created another enemy: anger is bad. So first you get angry—suffer its pain; and then you suffer, “I got angry.” Lust is bad: first suffer the pain of lust, and then suffer, “I indulged in lust—sin.” In this way life has become more complicated.

What is lust? What is anger? What are the energies of the mind? Learn to see them impartially—and you will be greatly delighted. And from that delight, your restlessness will begin to change and peace will begin to be created.

Second thing, stop running away.

Scientists say there are only two strategies: either run or fight. That is how it is in life. If a lion attacks you, there are only two strategies: fight, or run. If you can fight, fine; if not, run. Two strategies.

In the outer life, if a situation of conflict arises, there are only two options: fight or flee. But in the inner life there is a third option: wake up. That third option is religion.

In the outer life there is no way around it—there are only two routes. If a lion attacks, what will you do? Either fight or run—you must choose one of the two.

But within, instead of two options there are three: either fight, or run, or wake up. Do not fight, and do not run—simply stand and awaken. Whatever is happening, see it. The moment you awaken, energy is transformed. And restlessness sets out on the journey toward bliss; it becomes a boat.
A second friend has asked: You have said that the simplicity of mind and speech—that is, being the same inside and out—is a sign of religiosity and wisdom. But if a person begins to behave outwardly exactly as he is within, then in the present social and policy order widespread disorder seems inevitable. To avoid this disorder, is there a middle path, or do you not consider any moral discipline necessary?
First understand this: before you think about society, think about yourself. People immediately begin to think, “What will happen to society?” The first consideration is: what is happening in you. The second may be about society.

So first understand clearly: as long as you do not express outside what is within you, you are becoming false—you have already become false. You have become a paper effigy. The real person is suppressed inside, and the false one is sitting on top of you. This falsehood has become a burden. Layer upon layer of lie keeps accumulating, and the thicker these layers grow, the more life turns bad, vulgar, despairing, and boring. Because only with your own nature can there be any juice, any rasa. With falsehood no juice, no meaning can ever be joined to life.

First, then, see this: by not bringing out what is within, you have become false. And it is not only you—everyone has become false.

That is why we have created a society that is a society of falsehood. When the person is false, society will be false. And when the very foundation of the person is falsehood, the entire social arrangement will become false. However many measures we try to make society good, it cannot become good—because if the brick is wrong, the house cannot be sound. If the units are wrong, the sum cannot turn out right.

So first the individual has to be made simple, natural, spontaneous. If you want a good society, a truthful person is essential. Without truthful individuals there will be no good society. And if “goodness” itself is false, then however good society may look from the outside, within it will keep rotting. It is rotting. All the fine words are on the surface; all the ugly currents flow underneath.

It seems as if the bad things have become our soul, and the good things our garments. Whom are we deceiving with those garments? No one is being deceived, because everyone is playing the same trick.

Second, understand this: if disorder spreads in society, the reason is not that truth creates disorder. The reason is that in a society of untruth, truth creates disorder. Where everyone lies, if someone speaks the truth, it will create disorder. Where everyone is dishonest, if someone becomes honest, it will create disorder.

You must have heard the story: an emperor walks naked through the streets, but someone has convinced him he is wearing the garments of the gods. A swindler took lakhs from him and said, “I will bring you the clothing of the gods.” One day he “brought” those garments. He told the emperor, “Remove your clothes; I will reveal the garments of the gods.”

The emperor took off his cap. The swindler pulled an empty hand out of the chest. The emperor saw there was no cap. He said, “Your hand is empty!” The man whispered in his ear, “As I was leaving, the gods told me these garments are visible only to one who is born of his own father.”

Instantly the cap became visible to the emperor—because now it was a delicate matter. He said, “Ah, I have never seen such a beautiful cap!” and placed the cap—which was not there—on his head.

But it wasn’t just the cap. One by one the rest of the clothes, too, were removed. Courtiers grew anxious, because the emperor was becoming naked. When the last garment was off, the man proclaimed loudly, “Courtiers, let me tell you one more secret. When I left, the gods told me these garments are visible only to one who is born of his own father.”

The emperor said, “How beautiful these garments are!” The courtiers rushed forward to outdo one another praising the clothes. For if anyone lagged behind, suspicion might arise about whether he was born of his own father. They praised more and more.

Even those who were afraid to praise—since the king was completely naked—thought: “If so many are praising, the mistake must be mine.” When so many say, “Never have we seen such garments—wonderful, divine!” doubt arose about themselves: “It must mean my mother deceived me! I seem not to be my father’s son. What is the point in telling this?” And they, too, pressed forward to praise.

This was everyone’s condition. Then the swindler said, “When garments of the gods first come to earth, they must be taken out in a procession. Prepare the chariot; we shall take out a procession in the capital.”

Like the wind, the news spread through the capital: the emperor has received the garments of the gods. But there is one condition: they are visible only to one who is born of his own father.

Hundreds of thousands lined the streets. Everyone could see the garments. Only one small child, sitting on his father’s shoulders, whispered in his father’s ear, “But father, the king is naked!” The father said, “Be quiet, silly boy. You are not old enough. When you grow up, with experience you too will begin to see the garments.”

That child was spreading disorder. The entire city, everyone, could see the clothes. If a whole society is clinging to lies, truth brings disorder. But such disorder is worthy of welcome.

This is what “sannyasin” means: he refuses to accept society’s lies. The sannyasin is anarchic, asocial. He is saying, “I am not willing to accept your lies. I will live in the way that feels right to me—even if I have to endure any suffering for it.” That suffering is tapas, austerity.

Do not think that on the journey of truth there will be no hardship. If there were no hardship on the journey of truth, there would be no such abundance of falsehood in the world. The path of truth has hardship. That is exactly why people settle for lies. Lies are convenient; truth is inconvenient. Lies offer convenience, because lies are all around.

What was that father saying to his son? “Do not create trouble.” That is what is convenient. When everyone “sees” the garments, the convenient thing is to see them too. It is not wise to create a fuss.

This aphorism of Krishna—simplicity, straightforwardness of mind and speech—will indeed lead you into danger. It will lead you into danger because the people all around you are not simple in mind and speech; they are complex, pseudo, full of lies and cunning. They do not say what they mean to say. They do not express what they intend to express. And there are so many layers of untruth that they themselves no longer know what they want to say; they themselves do not know what they want to do; they themselves do not know what they are doing.

So certainly, when someone takes the decision and resolves to become simple, obstacles will arise, difficulties will stand up. It is out of fear of those difficulties that people consent to live with lies. A seeker means one who is willing to endure those difficulties.

This does not mean you deliberately spread disorder in society. Nor does it mean you deliberately put people into trouble. It means only this: whenever the question arises before you—shall I sell my soul and purchase convenience, or let convenience break and save my soul?—choose to save the soul and let convenience go.

It is not necessary that you create an uproar twenty‑four hours a day. But it is necessary to take care that the soul is not sold at any price. Do not sell yourself for the sake of convenience. If you keep only this much in view, you will gradually attain simplicity. And the difficulty will be only at the beginning. Once you come into tune with truth, there will be no difficulty.

In fact, then you will see how many difficulties you endured living with lies—and endured them uselessly, because nothing comes from them.

Difficulties endured for truth have a result, a fruit. Difficulties endured for lies have no result, no fruit. Speak one lie and you will have to speak ten more, because to protect one lie you must build a wall of ten lies. Then, for those ten, you will have to speak a thousand. And there is no end to this chain. From one lie we postpone to another; we never arrive anywhere.

For truth no arrangements are needed. For truth you do not need the support of other truths.

Wilde has written that lying is possible only for those whose memory is very good. Those with weak memory should not lie, lest they forget—because with lies you have to keep elaborate accounts. Speak one lie and you must keep its account forever; then you must speak everything according to that lie.

So Wilde wrote, “Since my memory is weak, I rely only on truth—because to speak truth, there is nothing to remember.”

For lies, a strong memory is needed. That is why it often happens that in uneducated societies lies are less prevalent—because to lie, one needs to be educated. Societies that are “uncivilized” are less dishonest, because they do not possess the skill dishonesty requires. As soon as people are educated, dishonesty increases in the same proportion. Educate people and, along with it, lying increases—because now they can lie skillfully. Falsehood needs art; truth can be lived even without art. Falsehood needs planning.

The society we live in is all organized. To slip out from amidst this organization will be difficult at first, but not in the end.

Understand it this way: with untruth, there is convenience first, inconvenience later. With truth, inconvenience first, convenience later. What we call worldly pleasures seem sweet at first and bitter later. What we call spiritual austerity seems painful at first and becomes bliss later.

Remember this as a formula: do not take the first event as everything; the final event is everything.

So even if there is initial inconvenience, do not worry about it; keep in view what will happen later, what the final fruit will be, what the ultimate outcome will be. Otherwise, people swallow a poison pill if it is sugar‑coated—because the first taste is sweet. It is necessary to beware of the first taste. Keep the final taste in mind.

The final question.
Another friend has asked: In the conduct and way of living of many so-called masters one sees the pride of superiority and a show of vanity. How can one recognize from the outside a so‑called knower and a truly religious person? Because recognizing from the inside is extremely difficult!
It’s something to be understood that whenever you are told to understand something, you immediately start thinking in reference to others. Krishna has not said that the sign of the wise is that he finds out who is parading vanity and who is not. Krishna has not said that the wise man goes about discovering which guru is vain and which is not. Krishna has said: be concerned whether you yourself are caught in vanity or not.

But us? We have no concern for ourselves at all. It’s very hard to find people as selfless as we are! We have absolutely no concern for ourselves. We worry about the whole world. “How do we detect which ‘true guru’ is vain?” A story comes to mind.

I have heard: a saint arrived in a village to speak against alcohol. The country was observing a prohibition week. The saint explained a lot, many things against liquor. To drive it home he said, “Do you know who owns the biggest mansion in this village? The liquor-seller. And who pays for it? You. Do you know whose wife wears the costliest jewelry? The liquor-seller’s. And you pay for it with your blood.”

When the meeting ended, a couple came, bowed at his feet, and said, “Great grace of yours. Your teaching has changed our lives.” The saint said, “Wonderful. Have you decided to stop drinking?” They said, “No, we’ve decided to open a liquor shop. You spoke so piercingly to the heart that now we think we should leave all other businesses and sell alcohol!”

I’ve heard another: in a village there was a very miserly rich man. No one had ever succeeded in getting a donation from him. A plague had spread, people were suffering, so in desperation the fund-raisers went to his home too. They extolled charity at length: “There is no religion greater than charity, and in this dire time you must certainly give.” The miser said, “Teach me a little more about charity.” The fund-raisers were delighted—an auspicious sign, for usually he didn’t even open the door; and if anyone did get in, he immediately threw them out. He said, “Sit with love. Explain charity to me a little more.”

They thought, “Now there’s no problem; we won’t have to go anywhere else—this one person has enough to meet the village’s needs.” When they had said everything, the miser said, “I am so moved by your words—beyond measure!” They asked, “So what do you intend?” He replied, “Intend? I will come with you to collect donations. If charity is such a great thing, I too will go and teach people.”

Krishna says vanity is not a mark of the wise. You ask how to detect the vain ones? Krishna has nothing to do with them. Krishna is speaking to you.

And how will you detect the other anyway? First, there is no need. Another will suffer for his own vanity; you will not. For his vanity he will go to hell; you need not. For his vanity his heaven’s door will close; not yours. Why be troubled? Whether another is vain or not is his concern. Have a little compassion—on yourself. It is essential to care for yourself.

Even if you want to detect, there is no way—until you have become completely free of vanity. Until then you cannot know whether another has vanity or not. Because your own vanity will interpret. The ego sitting within you will interpret. Through your ego you will see in others things that perhaps are not there at all.

Understand this: if you stand before Krishna filled with vanity, Krishna’s words will sound very vain to you. Krishna says to Arjuna, “Abandon all and come to my refuge.” What could be more egotistical! “Abandon all—sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja—leave all dharmas and come to my feet, surrender to me.”

If you speak honestly, standing before Krishna you would say, “This man is the ultimate egotist! Who else proclaims with his own mouth that people should come to his own feet!”

If you have vanity within, Krishna’s words will sound proud. If you have no vanity within, the same words will sound full of compassion. It is only Krishna’s compassion that he says to Arjuna: “Don’t wander here and there in vain.” The emphasis is not on his feet; the emphasis is on surrender. But the vain man hears, “Krishna is advertising his feet—come to my feet.” Krishna is only saying: learn to bow down. Coming to the feet is just a device. Learn the art of surrender; bend.

But to you it will sound proud. Your inner vanity will obstruct. Therefore, until your ego disappears, you will not know who is egoless and who is not.

And there is no need to be anxious about this. Take care of yourself—that is enough. Leave true masters to themselves. Their heaven and hell are theirs. Their pains they will bear. You cannot be a partner in their merit or their sin. You can only be a partner to yourself. You are alone. The responsibility upon you is yours. Do not waste time, do not waste opportunity, do not squander energy.

As for masters, they have their own ways, their own arrangements—which are very intricate to read.

There was a Muslim fakir, Bayazid. When new people came, he often behaved very curtly with them—so curt, as if they weren’t human. Bayazid was a very humble man; you’d hardly find anyone more humble. Yet he was harsh and rude with newcomers.

His disciples asked, “Why do you become so hard whenever new people come? We know you well: as soon as the newcomers leave, you melt like butter; you are tender as cream. Why turn to stone for them? They carry away a bad impression: that you are wicked, proud, angry.”

Bayazid said, “Precisely so—so that unnecessary crowds don’t gather around me. My time is little, my work is much. I want to work only on the chosen few. I’m not interested in polishing stones, only in finding diamonds. If someone doesn’t even have the sense to see through my feigned vanity, I’m not willing to labor with him.”

But some would stay even after seeing Bayazid’s supposed pride and anger. The intelligent would say, “The first impression is not enough. Let me come nearer, stay a little, not judge in haste.” Those who stayed a few days became Bayazid’s forever. If you had gone, you might have turned back.

Such fakirs have been—also in our land—who hurl outrageous abuses. Among them some were supremely enlightened. Go to them and they will shower the vilest words, ones you could never imagine a saint would utter.

Ramakrishna himself would sometimes abuse. The reason was simply this: those who judge so quickly—“This man is wrong because he uses foul language”—are not worth working with. The one who judges in haste is a shallow person; there is no need to labor over him.

The intelligent person thinks: “If Ramakrishna is abusing, even the abuse must have a purpose. Let me wait. No need to hurry. A man like Ramakrishna will not abuse without cause; if he does, there is a purpose, a meaning. I will stay a while and not rush to judgment.” The one who stayed, stayed forever. The one who ran, ran forever.

Masters have their own ways and arrangements. It is hard to say why they do what they do. Do not get into that tangle. If you want to find a master, cultivate the capacity to stay near with patience, without judging. And the greater the master, the more he will test your patience; because before giving a great treasure he will fully examine your worthiness. A small-time guru will not test you at all—he fears you may run away. He is there to ensnare you.

The small-time guru is like a fisherman with a hook baited with dough. He will say with great sweetness, “Please come, please sit.” He will carry you on his eyelashes. He will stroke your ego. You will be pleased: “Wonderful! How high this man is! How humble! No one invites me to sit, and such a great man says to me, please sit!”

You may not know: when Roosevelt won the US presidency, someone asked what special method he had used in his campaign. He said, “Giving respect to small men.” He wrote ten thousand personal letters—to people like a taxi driver whose cab had once taken him from the station home.

Roosevelt had a habit: he would ask a taxi driver his name, his wife’s name, his children’s names. The driver, focused on the road, couldn’t see him, but Roosevelt would note it all—how is your wife’s health, what class is your child in? The driver would be overjoyed—imagine Nehru asking you such things!

Then, two years later, a letter would arrive: “Your wife was unwell when I came to your town last time, I hope she is fine now? The children doing well in school? This time I’m running—do keep me in mind.” Whatever party he belonged to, the driver was won over. Now it was personal. He would proudly carry the card around.

Flattering the small man’s ego is the politician’s work, not the saint’s. The saint wants to break your ego, not to coax it.

So Ramakrishna abuses; Roosevelt says, “Please sit.” That’s the difference. But it’s hard to tell what a saint’s intent is. Do not be quick. Always make decisions about yourself; never about the other.

And saints are dangerous—about them, don’t decide at all. Leave them to their decision. If you want to benefit from them, do so patiently, without judging. Surely, if you keep patience, the true image of the guru you are with will reveal itself. If you hurry, it may happen that even if you come near a Buddha, you pass by the shore and remain deprived.