Geeta Darshan #5

Sutra (Original)

अहो बत महत्पापं कर्तुंव्यवसिता वयम्‌।
यद्राज्यसुखलोभेन हन्तुं स्वजनमुद्यताः।। 45।।
इसलिए राज्य के सुख के लोभ से हम लोग आत्मीयों का विनाशरूप महापाप करने के लिए जो प्रवृत्त हुए हैं, यह बड़ी आश्चर्य और खेदजनक घटना है।
यदि मामप्रतीकारमशस्त्रं शस्त्रपाणयः।
धार्तराष्ट्रा रणे हन्युस्तन्मे क्षेमतरं भवेत्‌।। 46।।
यदि किसी प्रकार की प्रतिक्रिया न करने वाले मुझको शस्त्रधारी धृतराष्ट्र के पुत्र आदि संबंधी रण में मार डालें, तो उनके द्वारा मेरा मरना मेरे लिए अधिक हितकर होगा।
संजय उवाच
एवमुक्त्वार्जुनः संख्ये रथोपस्थ उपाविशत्‌।
विसृज्य सशरं चापं शोकसंविग्नमानसः।। 47।।
संजय ने कहा: यह कह कर शोक-संतप्त अर्जुन रथ में अपने सब शस्त्रों को रख कर रथ के ऊपर चुपचाप बैठ गया।
अथ द्वितीयोऽध्यायः
संजय उवाच
तं तथा कृपयाविष्टमश्रुपूर्णाकुलेक्षणम्‌।
विषीदन्तमिदं वाक्यमुवाच मधुसूदनः।। 1।।
संजय ने कहा: उस प्रकार दया आदि गुणों से युक्त जिसके नेत्र आंसुओं से भर गए हैं तथा विषाद कर रहे अर्जुन से भगवान ने निम्न निर्दिष्ट वचन कहे।
श्रीभगवानुवाच
कुतस्त्वा कश्मलमिदं विषमे समुपस्थितम्‌।
अनार्यजुष्टमस्वर्ग्यमकीर्तिकरमर्जुन।। 2।।
क्लैब्यं मा स्म गमः पार्थ नैतत्त्वय्युपपद्यते।
क्षुद्रं हृदयदौर्बल्यं त्यक्त्वोत्तिष्ठ परंतप।। 3।।
Transliteration:
aho bata mahatpāpaṃ kartuṃvyavasitā vayam‌|
yadrājyasukhalobhena hantuṃ svajanamudyatāḥ|| 45||
isalie rājya ke sukha ke lobha se hama loga ātmīyoṃ kā vināśarūpa mahāpāpa karane ke lie jo pravṛtta hue haiṃ, yaha bar̤ī āścarya aura khedajanaka ghaṭanā hai|
yadi māmapratīkāramaśastraṃ śastrapāṇayaḥ|
dhārtarāṣṭrā raṇe hanyustanme kṣemataraṃ bhavet‌|| 46||
yadi kisī prakāra kī pratikriyā na karane vāle mujhako śastradhārī dhṛtarāṣṭra ke putra ādi saṃbaṃdhī raṇa meṃ māra ḍāleṃ, to unake dvārā merā maranā mere lie adhika hitakara hogā|
saṃjaya uvāca
evamuktvārjunaḥ saṃkhye rathopastha upāviśat‌|
visṛjya saśaraṃ cāpaṃ śokasaṃvignamānasaḥ|| 47||
saṃjaya ne kahā: yaha kaha kara śoka-saṃtapta arjuna ratha meṃ apane saba śastroṃ ko rakha kara ratha ke ūpara cupacāpa baiṭha gayā|
atha dvitīyo'dhyāyaḥ
saṃjaya uvāca
taṃ tathā kṛpayāviṣṭamaśrupūrṇākulekṣaṇam‌|
viṣīdantamidaṃ vākyamuvāca madhusūdanaḥ|| 1||
saṃjaya ne kahā: usa prakāra dayā ādi guṇoṃ se yukta jisake netra āṃsuoṃ se bhara gae haiṃ tathā viṣāda kara rahe arjuna se bhagavāna ne nimna nirdiṣṭa vacana kahe|
śrībhagavānuvāca
kutastvā kaśmalamidaṃ viṣame samupasthitam‌|
anāryajuṣṭamasvargyamakīrtikaramarjuna|| 2||
klaibyaṃ mā sma gamaḥ pārtha naitattvayyupapadyate|
kṣudraṃ hṛdayadaurbalyaṃ tyaktvottiṣṭha paraṃtapa|| 3||

Translation (Meaning)

Alas, indeed, a great sin we are resolved to commit.
That, out of greed for the pleasures of a kingdom, we are poised to slay our own kin।। 45।।

Therefore, that we, out of greed for the joys of a kingdom, have set out to commit the great sin of destroying our own dear ones—this is a most astonishing and grievous event.

If, unresisting and unarmed, I were slain in battle
by the weapon-bearing sons of Dhritarashtra, that would be better for me।। 46।।

If, I offering no retaliation, the weaponed sons of Dhritarashtra and my other kinsmen should kill me in the fight, then to die at their hands would be more beneficial for me.

Sanjaya said
Thus having spoken, Arjuna in the battle sat upon the chariot-seat.
Casting aside his bow and arrows, his mind overwhelmed with grief।। 47।।

Sanjaya said: Saying this, grief-stricken Arjuna laid all his weapons in the chariot and sat silently upon the car.

Now, the Second Chapter

Sanjaya said
To him thus overcome with compassion, with eyes brimming and clouded with tears,
and despairing, Madhusudana spoke these words।। 1।।

Sanjaya said: To him, endowed with such compassion, whose eyes were filled with tears and who was sunk in despondency, the Lord spoke the following words.

The Blessed Lord said
Whence has this dejection come upon you in this crisis?
Unworthy of the noble, it leads not to heaven and brings ill-fame, O Arjuna।। 2।।

Yield not to impotence, O Partha; this does not befit you.
Cast off this petty weakness of heart; arise, O scorcher of foes।। 3।।

Osho's Commentary

Sanjaya has described Arjuna as filled with daya, tears of pity standing in his eyes. It is necessary to understand a little about daya. Sanjaya did not say he was filled with karuna; he said daya.

Ordinarily, dictionaries treat daya and karuna as synonyms. Ordinarily, we too use both words interchangeably. That creates a great confusion. Daya is situational; karuna is a state of being. There is a fundamental difference.

Karuna means: the heart in which karuna abides. It has nothing to do with outer circumstances. A compassionate person, even sitting alone, will have compassion flowing from his heart—just as the fragrance of a flower will drift even in a deserted place. Whether a passerby happens along or not is irrelevant to the flower’s fragrance. If no one passes, still its fragrance spreads into the solitude; if someone does pass, he partakes of the fragrance—that is another matter. The flower is not fragrant for his sake.

Karuna is the spring of a person’s inner consciousness. From there, like fragrance, compassion rises. That is why it is wrong to call a Buddha or a Mahavira “dayavan”; they are “karunavan,” great beings of boundless compassion.

Sanjaya says of Arjuna: filled with daya. Daya arises only in those who lack karuna. Daya sprouts under the pressure of circumstances; karuna blossoms from the growth of the heart. What arises in you upon seeing a beggar on the road is pity—daya; it is not compassion—karuna.

And understand one thing more: pity nourishes the ego, while compassion dissolves it. Compassion can arise only in one who has no ego. Pity becomes a means to further the ego. It is a respectable means, a gentleman’s means—but a means to feed the ego all the same.

When you give alms, the taste you feel within—the savor of being the giver, of occupying the superior place—when pity arises upon seeing a beggar: in that very moment, if you look inside, the note of ego is also playing. The compassionate person will wish that no beggar remain upon the earth; the pitiful person will, secretly, wish that beggars remain—otherwise he will be in great difficulty. Societies founded on pity never eradicate beggary; they nourish it. A society founded on compassion will be unable to tolerate beggary. It should not be.

What has arisen in Arjuna is pity. Had it been compassion, there would have been revolution. It is crucial to grasp this, because Krishna’s immediate response is worth noting. What he says to Arjuna speaks directly to his ego. He says this is unworthy of the noble. This is Krishna’s second clue that he has caught the thread.

The ego’s tone is sounding in Arjuna’s words. He says, “I feel pity. How can I perform such an act? Not that the act is bad, but how can I do it? Am I that bad?” He even tells Krishna it would be better if Dhritarashtra’s sons were to kill him. Better that, than that he prepare himself for such a sinful deed.

The ego can even offer itself in sacrifice. The last act the ego can perform is martyrdom—it can become a martyr. And often the ego is martyred, but it only grows stronger through martyrdom.

Arjuna says, “Better that I die. I, Arjuna, cannot commit such a deed in such a situation. I feel pity: what is all this that people have gathered to do! I am astonished.”

From his words it sounds as if he had no part in the making of this war at all. As if he did not co‑opt it. As if the war has suddenly stood up before him. As if he had no inkling of it. In this situation he speaks as though he were not a participant, not a partner. Standing at a distance, he says, “I feel pity.” Tears fill his eyes. “No, I cannot do this. Better that I die; that would be preferable.”

Krishna has caught this tone. That is why I say Krishna is the first psychologist on this earth. For his second aphorism only fawns upon Arjuna’s ego to dissolve it.

In the second aphorism he says, “How is it you speak like the ignoble?” “Arya” means the noble; “anarya” means the ignoble. “Arya” means the superior, “anarya” the base. “Arya” means the egoically exalted, “anarya” the meek and lowly. “How do you speak like the ignoble!”

Now think: speaking of pity—does that sound ignoble? Tears filled with pity—are those ignoble? And yet Krishna says, “It will bring you infamy on this earth and be unwholesome for you hereafter.” Pity!

It may never have occurred to you that Sanjaya says, “Arjuna, filled with pity, with tears in his eyes,” while Krishna’s words do not seem to match. We have never understood pity correctly: pity too is an ornament of the ego. Pity too is an ego‑act—of a “good” man. Cruelty is the ego‑act of a “bad” man.

Remember, the ego stuffs itself with virtues as well as with vices. And often, when the ego finds no opportunity to feed on virtues, only then does it feed on vices.

That is why the basic difference between the “good” and the “bad” person is not very fundamental, not original. The good and the wicked stand on the same axis of ego. The only difference is this: the wicked man, to nourish his ego, can injure others; the good man, to nourish his ego, can injure himself. There is no real difference in the injuring.

Arjuna says, “Better than killing them is that I die.” The wicked man—in psychological language—is a sadist. And when the “good” man feeds the ego, he becomes a masochist. There was even a man named Masoch who tortured himself.

Those who torment themselves can quickly become respectable. If I starve you, I become wicked; the law and the courts will catch me. But if I fast myself, no law or court will catch me; you yourselves will carry me in procession.

But if starving you is bad, how is starving myself good? Only because this body happens to fall under my responsibility, and that body falls under yours? If I flog your body, strip you naked, and lay you on thorns, it is a crime; but if I strip myself and lie on thorns, it becomes austerity! By merely reversing the direction of the arrow—turn it from there to here—and it becomes religion!

Arjuna says, “Rather than kill them, I will die.” He is saying the same thing—about killing and dying. There is no great difference—only the arrow’s direction changes.

And remember: there is never as much gratification of the ego in killing another as in killing oneself. For the other, even as he dies, can spit in your face. But when a man kills himself, he dies utterly unarmed, with no reply. Killing another is never complete; the other, even in death, eludes you. His eyes say, “Yes, you killed me—but I did not lose!” But in killing oneself, there is no way out; the pleasure of conquest is total.

Arjuna talks of pity, and Krishna says to him, “Arjuna, such words do not befit you; they will spread infamy”—he is merely cajoling his ego, persuading it.

Krishna’s second aphorism shows he has found the nerve. He is touching exactly the right spot. For to explain to Arjuna now that pity is not right is futile. To tell him that dayā and karuṇā are far apart is also futile. For the thread vibrating in him at this moment is ego. His ego is moving from sadism to masochism—turning from readiness to hurt the other toward readiness to hurt himself.

In this state, Krishna says in his second aphorism, “What are you saying! Being an Arya—cultured, civilized, of noble lineage—why do you speak like the ignoble? Will you flee the battle? Has cowardice seized your mind?” He is striking his ego.

Very often, readers of the Gita make a fundamental mistake at such delicate, nuanced places. Are Krishna’s words telling Arjuna to be egotistical? No. Krishna merely sees that if this pity is arising out of ego, then by inflating the ego it will vanish at once.

Hence he says, “You speak of faintheartedness! Of cowardice!” He will use the strongest words.

Throughout, Krishna speaks to Arjuna in a way that provokes a reaction, because he wants to see what arises. Psychoanalysis begins. Krishna takes Arjuna onto the couch. Arjuna lies down, as it were, and Krishna begins. Whatever he asks, he will awaken and watch him completely—where is he, how deep is the water he is in?

From here onward, Krishna is a psychoanalyst. And Arjuna is merely the patient, the sick one. It is necessary to provoke him from every side, to awaken him. The first blow he lands on his ego.

And naturally, the deepest and the first disease in man is the ego. Where ego is, pity is false. Where ego is, nonviolence is false. Where ego is, peace is false. Where ego is, talk of welfare, blessedness, the good of all is false. For where ego is, all these things are nothing but ornaments for the ego.

Arjuna uvacha:
katham bhishmam aham sankhye dronam cha madhusudana
ishubhih pratiyotsyami pujarhav ari-sudana (2.4)

Arjuna said: O Madhusudana, how shall I fight with arrows in battle against Bhishma and Drona? O destroyer of foes, they are worthy of my worship.

But Arjuna does not catch on. He repeats the same thing from another angle. He says, “How can I fight Drona and Bhishma? They are my revered elders.” Again he speaks the language of humility.

But very often the ego speaks the language of humility. Often the most humble people are the most deeply egotistical. In truth, humility is defensive egoism—ego in armor. Aggressive ego can get into trouble; defensive ego is already insured.

So when someone says, “I am nothing, only the dust beneath your feet,” look into his eyes. They will seem to be saying something else. His words will seem to be saying something else.

Krishna has put his hand on Arjuna’s nerve, but Arjuna cannot see it. He starts again from another corner. He says, “How shall I attack Drona, who is my guru; Bhishma, who is supremely honorable and worthy of worship?”

Note this: even here, Bhishma and Drona are secondary. Arjuna is saying, “How shall I attack?” I am not so bad that I would draw a bow on Drona! That I would pierce Bhishma’s chest! No, that I cannot do. Outwardly he says, “They are worthy of worship; how can I do this?” But if you look deeper, you will find he is saying, “Given my self‑image, the statue of myself I carry in my own eyes, this is impossible. Better, O Madhusudana, that I die. Better the image be saved and the body be lost; better the ego be saved and I be lost.” That self‑image of his...

Every person has a personal statue, an image. When you get angry at someone and later repent and ask forgiveness, do not fall into the illusion that you are repenting and asking forgiveness. In truth, you are reconstructing your self‑image. You have always thought of yourself as a good person. In anger you shattered your own statue. After the anger you discover: “Am I not that good person I believed myself to be?” The ego says, “No, I am indeed good. That anger—well, that was a slip, an accident. In spite of me, it happened. I did not do it; it happened, circumstantial.” You repent, you ask forgiveness.

If you had truly repented of anger, anger would never return in your life. But tomorrow anger returns.

No, the problem was not with anger. The problem was something else: you had never imagined you could get angry. When you repent, your good statue—your ego—resumes the throne. It says, “Look, I have apologized, I have asked forgiveness. I am a humble man. It was the time, the situation, the occasion—I was not in the mood, I was hungry, I returned from the office annoyed, I had failed, something had gone wrong—it was all circumstantial. The anger did not come from within me. As soon as I regained awareness, as soon as I came back to myself, I asked forgiveness.” You have once again dressed and adorned your statue and seated it on the throne. Before the anger, that statue sat on the throne; in anger, it tumbled down; now you have seated it again. You are back in your old place. Tomorrow you will be angry again. The place is the same as before. Before the anger you were there; after the anger you are back there. Repentance is merely the restoration of the statue.

But it appears that the one who asks forgiveness is very humble. Appearances are not truths. Truths lie very deep—and often they are the opposite. That person is not asking forgiveness of you; he has become defiled in his own eyes. He is dusting off that defilement, wiping and sweeping it clean. He stands once again bathed and pure.

When Arjuna says, “They are worthy of worship—how can I kill them?” the emphasis is not truly on their being worthy of worship. The emphasis is on Arjuna’s “I”: “How can I kill them? No, no—better that my statue remain intact than that people, in this world and the next, say I attacked my own guru, I killed those worthy of worship. Better, O Madhusudana, that I die. Let people say, ‘Arjuna died, but he did not raise his hand against those he revered. He perished, but did not lift his hand against his guru.’”

His “I” needs to be seized. He has not yet seized it; no one does. One whose “I” falls within his own grasp steps beyond the “I.” We live protecting our “I.” He will keep talking about other things, finding substitutes. Now this, now that—anything but the one point that is. Krishna tried to touch it, and Arjuna slipped away. He does not take up the talk of noble and ignoble. He does not take up the talk of faintheartedness. He does not take up the talk of infamy in the world and misfortune hereafter. He raises another issue—as though he never heard Krishna at all. His words show that what Krishna said in between, Arjuna did not hear.

Not everything that is spoken is heard by us. We hear only what we want to hear. Not everything that appears is seen by us. We see only what we want to see. Not everything we read is actually read; we read only what we want to read. Our seeing, hearing, reading are all selective; they are acts of choosing. All the time we are screening out what we do not want to see.

There is a new psychology: Gestalt. Arjuna’s reply is a marvelous illustration of it. Gestalt psychologists say that when clouds mass in the sky, each person sees something different in them. A frightened man sees ghosts; a religious man sees the form of God; a movie‑minded man sees actors and actresses. It is the same cloud; the seeing is one’s own.

Every person lives in a world of his own making. Do not remain under the illusion that there is one world on this earth. There are as many worlds as there are people. If there are three and a half billion people, there are three and a half billion worlds. And do not imagine that even one person lives his whole life in the same world. His world changes every day.

Pearl Buck titled her autobiography “My Several Worlds.”

How can one person have several worlds? Because it changes daily. And each person sets fences, doors, sentries, guards around his world. He says: “Let these in; tell those, at the door itself, that I am not at home.” We do this not only with people; we do it with information.

Arjuna has simply not heard. He has not heard what Krishna said. His answer shows it is irrelevant; it has no connection.

We too do not listen. If two people are talking and you stand silently as a witness, you will be greatly surprised. But it is difficult to stand as a witness; before you know it, you too will become a third participant. If you can truly listen as a witness, you will be shocked to see whether they are talking to each other or each to himself. What one says often has no relation to what the other replies.

Jung has recorded a reminiscence: two insane professors were admitted to his asylum for treatment. Professors have a higher chance of going mad—or perhaps madmen are eager to become professors. They had gone mad—not ordinarily mad. Ordinary madmen are fearful, timid. These were professors: having gone mad, they became even more intellectual. Whenever they were awake, a profound discussion went on. Jung would listen from behind the window to hear what they talked about.

Their talk was astonishing, very deep. Both were informed; both had read and heard much. Their information was not small—perhaps that was the cause of their madness. If information is abundant and wisdom scant, a man can go mad. Wisdom we do not have; information accumulates—and then becomes a burden.

Jung was amazed at their knowledge. The subjects they discussed were delicate and deep. But what amazed him even more was that what one said had no relation to what the other said. But for madmen that is quite natural. What amazed him still more was that when one spoke, the other kept silent—and it seemed as if he was listening. Yet as soon as the first stopped, the second began—and listening to him, it was clear he had not heard a word. If one spoke of the sky, the other began with the netherworld. There was no connection.

Jung went in and asked, “Everything else I understand; you are discussing very deep matters. What I do not understand is: when one speaks, why does the other keep quiet?” The two burst out laughing and said, “Do you take us for madmen?”

In this world madmen never take themselves to be mad. One who thinks himself mad is already rising above madness.

“Do you think we are mad?” they asked. “No,” Jung said, “how could I make such a mistake! I do not consider you mad at all. But then why, when one speaks, does the other keep quiet?” They said, “Do you think we do not know the rules of conversation? We know that when one speaks, the other should remain silent.” Jung said, “If you know that much, then let me ask one thing more: what the second says has no relation to what the first said!” They laughed again. “Well,” they said, “we may be considered mad, but tell us—on this earth, when two people speak, is there ever any relation between their words?” Jung retreated in alarm. He wrote in his memoirs: From that day, when I spoke with anyone, I too began to wonder—Is there a relation?

We create a small relation. When you are speaking to me—if we are not mad, which is quite possible—then while you speak, I keep speaking within myself. As soon as you fall silent, I begin to speak. What I begin to say has relation to what I was saying within; it has no relation to you. At most there will be the relation of a hook and a coat: I will take some word of yours as a hook and hang on it what was going on within me. That is all.

This moment will recur again and again in Arjuna and Krishna’s dialogue; hence I wanted to say it clearly. Arjuna has not heard what Krishna said. It is as if Krishna had not spoken. Arjuna is only listening to what is going on within him. He is saying, “These revered ones—Drona, Bhishma…” This is what must be going on within him. Over here, what Krishna says remains outside the perimeter. Within him, this is what rolls on. He says to Krishna, “Madhusudana, these revered ones, these dear ones—can I kill them? I, Arjuna.” Take note. He has not heard Krishna.

Questions in this Discourse

Osho, you have said that professors tend to be mad. You were once a professor of philosophy; now you have become an acharya. It is our good fortune that we have you. You just spoke about the ego. So a question arises: without the ego there is no projection. And psychologists—as for you, you are a self-synthesist—but psychologists say that without ego-fulfillment the personality cannot fully develop. And you speak of egolessness; are you, then, advising the annihilation of the ego?
First, I said that the possibility of professors going mad is greater. I did not say they inevitably go mad. And I also did not say that all madmen are professors. I only said the possibility is greater. Wherever the burden of so-called knowledge is heavy, the mind can become deranged. Knowledge liberates the mind; the burden of knowledge deranges it. And the knowledge that liberates arises from oneself. The knowledge that deranges never arises from oneself; it always comes from without.

You ask: psychologists speak of developing the ego, while I speak of dissolving it. Of course psychologists will speak of developing the ego. Not all psychologists—Buddha will not, Krishna will not, Mahavira will not. Freud will, Erikson will. And there is a reason: for Freud or Erikson there is no truth beyond the ego. And whatever is the last truth must be developed. For Mahavira, Buddha, or Krishna, the ego is not the ultimate truth; it is only a rung on the ladder. Egolessness is the ultimate truth. Not the ego, but Brahman is the ultimate truth. The ego is only a step.

Therefore Buddha, Mahavira, or Krishna will say: develop the ego and also dissolve it. Climb the ladder—and leave it. Come onto it—and go beyond it. Rise up to it—and cross over. Because there is being even beyond the mind, the last truth of mind—the ego—will be the first thing to be relinquished for the beyond. If I want to come from my house to your house, leaving the last wall of my house is the first step into yours. The last boundary of mind is the ego. The mind cannot go beyond the ego.

Because Western psychology takes the mind as the ultimate truth, its talk of developing the ego is appropriate. I say appropriate, not true—within its own limits it is quite right. But the day Western psychology feels— and it has begun to feel with Jung—that there is something beyond the ego, things will change. A crack begins with Jung, and there is an inkling that there is something beyond the ego.

But even now, whatever “beyond-ego” experience Western psychology speaks of is still below the ego—below ego, not beyond ego. It accepts the unconscious beneath the conscious, not the superconscious beyond the conscious. Still, this is a very auspicious moment. At least there is something beyond the ego—even if below; and if there is below, the resistance to an above becomes less. If today we accept that there is something on the far side of ego below, then tomorrow it becomes easier to accept that there is also something above.

Psychology will say: the ego should be properly integrated, crystallized—pure, clear, synthesized. This is individuation, this is personality. Krishna would not stop there. Krishna would say: there is one step more. The synthesized, concentrated ego must someday be surrendered. That is the last step from the side of the ego; from the side of the divine, it is the first step.

Surely, if a drop loses itself in the ocean, it becomes the ocean. And if the ego loses itself in the oceanic, it becomes Brahman. But before it can be lost, it must be—there must be a drop. If there is no drop—only vapor—how will it dissolve in the ocean? If a puff of steam is drifting in the air, we will first say: become a drop. Then, once you are a drop, we will say: now jump into the ocean. For steam cannot jump straight into the ocean; however it tries, it will only fly upwards to the sky, not into the sea. A drop can leap.

So Western psychology goes as far as making a drop; Krishna’s psychology goes as far as making an ocean. But one has to pass through Western psychology. Those who are still vapor must pass by way of Freud and Jung; only then can they reach Krishna. Many particles of vapor want to reach Krishna directly; they get into trouble. Freud lies in the middle; he cannot be avoided. He is not the end, but he is certainly the beginning.

Krishna’s psychology is the ultimate psychology, the supreme—where mind ends, there it is. It stands at the last barrier. Freud and Adler discuss the mind’s first boundary. If this is kept in view, there will be no difficulty.

I too will say: integrate the ego, so that one day you can surrender it. Only the integrated can surrender. One whose ego is in twenty-five fragments, who is schizophrenic, who does not have even a single “I” within but many “I”s—how will he surrender? He will surrender with one “I,” and another will say, “Forget it. Come back.”

This is how we are. All the findings of psychology say we are poly-psychic. Within us there isn’t one “I,” there are many. At night one “I” says, “I will get up at five in the morning,” and swears to it. At five another “I” says, “It’s too cold. Let it be. Why get into such things? We’ll see tomorrow,” and turns over to sleep. At seven a third “I” says, “What a blunder! We had decided to get up at five—why didn’t we?” and is full of remorse. You were the same man who decided at five; then who told you to sleep at five? Someone within you spoke—no one from outside. And when you had slept through five, why are you repenting at seven? You yourself slept—no one made you. Who is repenting now?

Ordinarily we assume “I am one.” That very assumption creates great confusion. Within us there are many “I”s. One “I” says, “We will rise,” another says, “We won’t,” a third says, “We will repent,” a fourth forgets everything and remembers none of this. And life goes on like this.

Psychology says: first make the “I” one.

Only when there is one “I” can surrender happen. If there are twenty-five voices, how will surrender be possible! That is why before God one “I” bows at the feet, while another stands stiff—right there in the temple. One “I” prostrates at the feet, while another keeps peeking to see whether anyone in the temple is watching. The same man is standing there, but two “I”s. One has his head at the feet, and the other is looking around to see if people are watching or not. Now, if you are surrendering, what have you to do with people, with onlookers? One “I” lies at the feet, another says, “What are you doing? All this is futile. There is no God.” One “I” clutches at God’s feet, another sits at the shop busy with business.

The “I” must be synthesized; only then can surrender take place. Therefore I see no opposition here; I see growth. Freud is not the end, but he is important and useful in integrating the “I.” Krishna is the end. There, at a certain boundary, the “I” must be surrendered.

गुरूनहत्वा हि महानुभावान्
श्रेयो भोक्तुं भैक्ष्यमपीह लोके।
हत्वार्थकामांस्तु गुरूनिहैव
भुञ्जीय भोगान् रुधिरप्रदिग्धान्।। 5।।

Rather than slaying the great-souled gurus, it would be better even in this world to live by begging. If I kill the gurus who teach dharma and the like, then in this very world I shall have to enjoy pleasures smeared with blood.

न चैतद्विद्मः कतरन्नो गरीयो
यद्वा जयेम यदि वा नो जयेयुः।
यानेव हत्वा न जिजीविषामस्
तेऽवस्थिताः प्रमुखे धार्तराष्ट्राः।। 6।।

We do not know which is better for us, to beg or to fight. Even if we abandon doubt about victory or defeat and fight as our own dharma, it is still not right; for those dear kinsmen, by slaying whom we would not care to live, stand before us in battle, resolved to die.

कार्पण्यदोषोपहतस्वभावः
पृच्छामि त्वां धर्मसंमूढचेताः।
यच्छ्रेयः स्यान्निश्चितं ब्रूहि तन्मे
शिष्यस्तेऽहं शाधि मां त्वां प्रपन्नम्।। 7।।

O Lord, my nature is overcome by the fault of faint-heartedness; my mind is confused about duty. I ask you: tell me decisively what is surely good for me. I am your disciple; instruct me. I have taken refuge in you.

Arjuna goes on speaking only his own mind. It seems he is asking Krishna, but in fact he keeps telling Krishna what dharma is. He claims: “My mind is filled with ignorance. I have lost the sense of what is right and what is wrong.” Yet at the same time he declares, “If I kill my own, even my food will be drenched in blood. Better to become a beggar than a king.” He keeps giving verdicts, and yet says, “My mind is full of ignorance.” There is no harmony between the two. If the mind were truly filled with ignorance, Arjuna would have nothing to say. It would be enough to say, “My mind is clouded by ignorance; show me the way. I do not know what is right, what is wrong.” No—he keeps saying, “This is right and that is wrong.”

However much we admit that the mind is filled with ignorance, the ego refuses to accept it. The ego says, “I—filled with ignorance? I know what dharma is and what is adharma.”

Another point to see: wherever the ego is, it always chooses extremes. Extreme is the choice. It jumps from one extreme to the opposite extreme. The ego never stands in the middle; it cannot—because right in the middle the ego dies. So Arjuna says, “Better to be a beggar than an emperor.” He chooses the two furthest poles. Either a king or a beggar—he cannot be anywhere in between. Either number one on that end or number one on this end—but number one he must be.

This needs a little attention. Bernard Shaw once said, “If I were to go to heaven and had to be number two, I would refuse. I would prefer to remain in hell—but I must be number one. I must be number one; I will even accept hell.” So do not be surprised if all those obsessed with being number one gather in hell. The road from Delhi to hell is very near indeed. From Delhi straight into hell—there is no gap in between! One who is tormented by the urge to be number one—if being emperor is out of reach, his immediate second option is to be a beggar.

This option too must be understood; only the ego chooses it. This choice—the extreme—is always the ego’s. The ego does not care whether you are a king or a beggar; it only cares that you are number one.

Arjuna says, “Better that I become a beggar, that I beg on the streets.” On the surface it seems a statement of great humility, renouncing emperorship to choose begging. But inside, not much changes. Inside it is the same thing: the ego’s desire to stand at the extreme pole, on the farthest axis—here or there. The middle is not for it.

Buddha’s psychology is called the Middle Way. When someone asked Buddha why he calls his path Majjhima Nikaya—the middle path—Buddha said: Only one who stands exactly between the two extremes can be free of ego; otherwise, not.

A small incident from Buddha’s life. Buddha came to a town. A king arrived to be initiated. The bhikkhus whispered to Buddha, “Be careful with this one. What we have heard of him is quite the opposite of this. This man has never even walked barefoot on the ground from his chariot. In his palace he has been immersed in every possible indulgence. Even when he climbs stairs, instead of a railing he keeps nude women standing on either side, using their shoulders to climb. Be careful. Other than wine and women nothing has ever entered his life. And now suddenly he arrives to become a monk, to take vows of renunciation and austerity. He may betray you in the middle.”

Buddha said, “As far as I understand men, this man will not betray. He has tired of one extreme and is moving to the other. He is bored with one pole and is going to the opposite pole.” The monks said, “We doubt it, for until yesterday he was entirely different.” Buddha said, “I have no doubt. Such people always choose extremes. Do not fear.” They said, “We cannot imagine he will beg, walk barefoot, bear sun and shade—we do not see it.” Buddha said, “He will endure more than you.” They laughed. “In this at least,” they thought, “Buddha will be proven wrong.”

But Buddha was not wrong. From the very next day it was seen that if the monks walked in the road, that king walked off the road—where the thorns were. If the monks sat in the shade of a tree, he stood in the sun. If the monks ate once a day, he ate once in two days.

In six months he withered and turned dark. He had been extraordinarily handsome; now his bones protruded from hunger; sores formed on his feet. Buddha asked his bhikkhus, “Well? You said he was not trustworthy. I told you he would go farther in austerity than you.” The bhikkhus said, “We are amazed—how did you see it?”

Buddha said, “The ego always chooses one extreme or the other. It cannot stay in the middle. He was the emperor of emperors; now he is the monk of monks. He was number one among kings. He had gathered all the beautiful women of his realm; he had inlaid diamonds along his palace pathways. Now he is not an ordinary monk; he is an extraordinary monk. You walk on the straight path; he walks on the slanted one. You avoid thorns; he looks for them. You sit in the shade; he stands in the sun. He will remain number one wherever he is. He cannot abandon being number one; he will outdo you. He outdid the emperors; how will he not outdo you beggars? The ego chooses extremes.”

Arjuna says, “Let me renounce empire; it has no meaning. I will beg.” He can beg, very well he can. The ego can be gratified there too. It cannot stop in the middle. It can jump from one extreme to the other. But moving from extreme to extreme is not transformation.

One evening Buddha went to that king-turned-monk. Sick, wasted, he lay by the roadside. Buddha said, “I have come to ask one thing. I have heard that when you were king you played the vina exquisitely. Tell me: if the strings are too tight, does music arise?” He said, “How can it? The strings snap.” “And if the strings are too loose?” Buddha asked. “No,” he said, “if they are too loose there is not even a twang—how will there be music?” Buddha said, “I will go now. Let me leave you with one more thing: The rule for the strings of a vina—not too tight, not too loose; that is, neither tight nor slack, but somewhere exactly in the middle where you cannot say they are tight or loose—only then does music arise. The same is the law for the vina of life.”

If only Arjuna had spoken of the middle, Krishna would have said, “Go—finished. There is nothing more to say.” But he is not speaking of the middle. He is speaking of jumping from one extreme to the other. On the opposite extreme, the ego fills itself again.
Osho, a pointed question has come from the audience here. They ask: In court, why are people first made to place their hand on the Gita? Why isn’t the Ramayana or the Upanishads used in court? Is the reverence for the Gita genuine, or is it merely blind faith?
It has been asked: When taking an oath in court, why do they have you place your hand on the Gita? Why not on the Ramayana? Why not on the Upanishads? There is a substantial reason. I don’t know whether the court knows it or not, but there is a reason; and it is a significant one.
Ram, however great he may be, is not, in the psyche of this land, a complete incarnation; his incarnation is partial. The rishis of the Upanishads, however great their wisdom, are not incarnations. Krishna is a complete incarnation. If God were to descend fully upon the earth, he would be almost like Krishna. That is why Krishna has touched the mind of this land more than anyone else—for many reasons. First, a complete incarnation means multidimensional—one who touches the entire spectrum of the human personality. Ram is one-dimensional.

Herbert Marcuse wrote a book, One-Dimensional Man. Ram is one-dimensional, single-toned—there is a single note in him. Naturally, a single-note person can be pleasing only to single-note people; he cannot be pleasing to everyone. Mahavira and Buddha are also single-toned; there is one note in them. Therefore they cannot be pleasing to all human beings. Yes, there will be a class of people who become crazy about Buddha or mad about Mahavira—but it will be a class, not everyone.

Krishna, however, is multidimensional. It is hard to find a person on earth who will not find in Krishna something to love. A thief can love Krishna. A dancer can love him. A saint can love him; a sinner can love him. One who fights in the field of war can love him; one who dances with the gopis can love him. Krishna is an orchestra—many instruments, all playing. Whichever instrument one likes, at least that instrument one can love. And that is why people who love Krishna have not been able to love the whole of Krishna. Whoever has loved has made a selection within Krishna.

Surdas loves the child Krishna; he is very afraid of the gopis. So he loves the child Krishna, because the child fits him; it is all right—he is a child, so it will do. The youthful Krishna frightens Surdas, because the youth within Surdas frightened him. So he makes his own choice.

And if Keshavdas is to love Krishna, he will drop concern for the child Krishna. He will choose the youthful Krishna—dancing in the moonlight; with no rules or codes; with no boundaries; beyond propriety; whom no bond can hold; utterly anarchic. Keshavdas will choose that youthful Krishna and leave the child aside.

So far no one has emerged who has loved the whole Krishna. Because to love the whole Krishna is possible only if that person too is multidimensional. Ordinarily we are one-dimensional. Our personality runs on a single track, like a railway line; and we walk on that track.

But in Krishna we find something that suits our track. Therefore Krishna is appealing to every kind of person in this land; he can be appealing even to the worst of men.

Note this well: good people only sometimes have to go to court—meaning, when bad people drag them there. The court is generally a place for bad people. If a bad man loved Ram, he wouldn’t come to court at all. Once someone has reached the court, making him swear by Ram is unwise. One can administer an oath by Krishna. Even in court a man may still be someone who loves Krishna. Krishna is open even to the bad man. For these bad men too, there is a door in his house that stands open.

Temples of Ram and the like have narrow, single doors; Krishna’s temple has many doors. Even if a drunkard goes there, there is a door for him too. In truth, it is very hard to find a man more big-hearted than Krishna. Therefore I do not say the court knows this—I do not know—but knowingly or unknowingly, Krishna’s range for touching people is the widest. The greatest number can be touched by him. There is no person whom Krishna would refuse to embrace, saying, “You are not for us—away!” He is for all. And so, being for the most, it becomes likely.
And you have asked: Is it only superstition?
No, it is not mere superstition. In this world there is a truth greater than truth: love. And toward the one for whom there is love, it is difficult to be untrue. In fact, we are able to be true only toward the one we love. In life we are true only where our love is. And if even with the beloved you cannot be truthful, understand that love is a deception.

If a husband hides things even from his wife and cannot be truthful; if a wife hides things even from her husband and cannot be truthful—even small things; if she is angry and even hides her anger—then there is a lack of love; then it is not love. Love strips itself completely naked—every way, on every layer.

Blind belief is not the cause. One has to catch hold of the nerve of love; only then can truth be called forth. I don’t even know whether a court understands this—there is some doubt that a court would know anything of love. But at least psychology says that if we can touch the chord of love, there is the highest likelihood that a person will speak the truth. Whether he will in fact speak—this is another matter. But the maximum possibility is there, where we have touched the chord of love. And where there is no love, the maximum possibility is of untruth; because there remains no reason for truth.

न हि प्रपश्यामि ममापनुद्याद्
यच्छोकमुच्छोषणमिन्द्रियाणाम्।
अवाप्य भूमावसपत्नमृद्धं
राज्यं सुराणामपि चाधिपत्यम्।। 8।।

O Lord, even by obtaining on earth a prosperous, unrivaled kingdom—or even the sovereignty of the gods—I do not see anything that could remove this sorrow which scorches my senses.

संजय उवाच
एवमुक्त्वा हृषीकेशं गुडाकेशः परंतप।
न योत्स्य इति गोविन्दमुक्त्वा तूष्णीं बभूव ह।। 9।।
तमुवाच हृषीकेशः प्रहसन्निव भारत।
सेनयोरुभयोर्मध्ये विषीदन्तमिदं वचः।। 10।।

Sanjaya said: Having spoken thus to Hrishikesha, the scorcher of foes, Gudakesha (Arjuna) said to Govinda, “I will not fight,” and fell silent. Then Hrishikesha, as if smiling, O Bharata, spoke these words to the despondent Arjuna standing between the two armies.

Arjuna is in a state of extreme indecision. Sanjaya says that even then, after saying, “I will not fight,” Arjuna sits down in the chariot. Such a decisive tone—“I will not fight”—in a condition of such indecision is worth pondering. So decisive a statement—“I will not fight”—and yet so much uncertainty: What is right? What is wrong? So much haziness that he says, “My mind is full of ignorance; illumine me.” And yet even while asking to be illumined, he proceeds to take his own decision: he says, “I will not fight.”

We will have to enter this a little. Often, when you speak with great certainty, it is because your uncertainty is deeper within. When a man says, “I make a firm resolve,” know that within him uncertainty is very great; otherwise, there would be no need of a firm resolve. When someone says, “I have absolute faith in God,” understand that inwardly there is no faith at all; otherwise, there would be no need to paste on the label “absolute faith.” When a man keeps saying, “I always speak the truth,” then know that within there is a great possibility of untruth; otherwise, there would be no need to say such things.

We try to cover the wobbliness within by imposing decisive statements from above. All of us want to make even what is totally uncertain inside appear certain on the face.

Now Arjuna says something quite amusing. He says, “I will not fight.” He has made the final decision, the conclusion. What is left for Krishna now? If he will not fight, what remains to ask Krishna? What advice is to be sought?

That is why the next thing Sanjaya says is delightful: he says Krishna smiled.

Why the smile? What is the reason for laughing? Is Arjuna a fit object for laughter? He is sunk in such suffering and pain, in such crisis—and Krishna laughs! But until now Krishna had not laughed. For the first time he laughs, hearing this statement.

There is a reason for that smile. He sees an extremely uncertain man making such a decisive declaration: “I will not fight!” Whom is he deceiving? Krishna laughs at the deception—at his self-deception, at his self-betrayal. One who knows will laugh. He sees that beneath, there are only cracks in Arjuna’s mind—his mind is torn, broken. He sees that nothing is settled within, and yet on the surface he declares, “I will not fight.” He is deceiving himself.

We all do it. Whenever we speak the language of extreme certainty, we are hiding uncertainty within. When we speak the language of great love, we are hiding hatred within. When we speak the language of intense theism, we are hiding atheism within. Man lives inverted: what appears on the surface is the opposite of what is inside.

Therefore Krishna’s laughter is absolutely apt, perfectly timed. It may appear untimely; it may seem harsh—that Krishna should laugh while Arjuna, caught in such sorrow and crisis, stands before him! But there is a reason for the laughter. Krishna sees the double game Arjuna is playing—saying one thing on the one hand and, on the other, the exact opposite.

In the speech of a double-toned man, of a divided man, there is always inner contradiction. The contradiction here is very clear. It is as if he is doing this: with one hand he lays a brick and with the other he pulls it out; by day he raises the wall, by night he brings it down. This double work he is doing—that is why Krishna laughs. What else can one do but laugh at such doubleness, this schizophrenic, split state of being!

Yet Krishna’s laughter carries a potent hint. But I do not think Arjuna saw that laughter. Nor do I think Arjuna heard that laughter.

Let us read the next aphorism.

श्री भगवानुवाच
अशोच्यानन्वशोचस्त्वं प्रज्ञावादांश्च भाषसे।
गतासूनगतासूंश्च नानुशोचन्ति पण्डिताः।। 11।।

The Lord said: You grieve for those who should not be grieved for, yet you speak words of wisdom. The truly wise do not lament for the dead or for the living.

What Krishna says, laughing, is even harsher. He says to Arjuna: you speak the language of the scriptures, but you are no pundit—you are a fool. For while you mouth the scriptures—what is unrighteous, what is inauspicious, what evil will ensue—the conclusions you draw are your own. You are imposing yourself upon the scriptures. The conclusions you wish to reach are already taken within; from the scriptures you merely seek testimony and support.

This is the only difference between the fool and the wise. The fool can also speak the language of the scriptures—he often does; he can speak it skillfully. For there is no contradiction between being a fool and speaking scriptural words. But the fool extracts from the scriptures only the meanings he already wants. The scriptures have no real purpose for him; his purpose is himself. He lines up the scriptures behind him as witnesses.

Simone Weil has written somewhere: there are some who want even truth to stand on their side, and there are some who want to stand on the side of truth. There are only these two kinds of people. Some want religion at their back, scripture at their back; and some have the courage to stand with religion itself.

But to stand with dharma is a revolutionary step; dharma will erase you—it will not allow you to be saved. To make dharma stand on your side is very conformist, very easy, very orthodox; you are seeking convenience and security to preserve yourself.

Arjuna is speaking the language of a pundit, the talk that sounds scholarly. But Arjuna has nothing to do with knowledge or wisdom. He wants to array all the scriptures on his side.

And one who wants to make the scriptures stand on his side, by nature puts himself above the scriptures. And nothing can be more dangerous than placing yourself above the scriptures, because then you have already assumed that you are right; you allow yourself no possibility of being wrong. You have given the final verdict of your own rightness. Now you will search for yourself even in the scriptures.

Christian monks say that even the Devil quotes scripture—often. There is no difficulty in quoting scripture; it is easy. Arjuna too is quoting scripture in the same way.

And the amusing part is: in front of whom is he giving scriptural citations! When the scripture itself stands embodied before you, only an ignoramus would cite scripture. In front of whom is he speaking words of wisdom! When wisdom stands before you, only an ignoramus would speak borrowed wisdom. Krishna’s laughter is justified. And Krishna’s saying this is justified: Arjuna, you speak the language of a pundit, but you are doing the work of a complete rustic. In front of whom?

I have heard: A man once went to Bodhidharma with a book of Buddha’s teachings and asked him to explain it. Bodhidharma said, “If you think I can explain Buddha’s book, then throw the book away and learn directly from me. And if you think I cannot explain Buddha’s book, then throw me away and learn from the book itself.”

Krishna’s laughter is very fitting. To whom are you appealing! And the fun is, all the while he says, “Bhagavan! O Lord! O Madhusudana!”—and then he cites scripture.

Even before God, some ignoramuses arrive carrying scripture; there is no end to their foolishness. If one day they were to meet God himself, they would still quote the Gita to him: “It is written in the Gita…” Then God would have to laugh: “At least now, leave the Gita aside.” But they will not.

That Arjuna is doing exactly what the common pundit’s foolishness does. And Krishna speaks plainly and straight. Such straightforward speech is rare. Krishna can say it; he has a reason. But whether Arjuna will hear it or not is hard to say! For almost the entire Gita, for a long time, Arjuna behaves like the blind and the deaf. Otherwise perhaps the Gita would not have been needed. If just once he had opened his eyes and looked at Krishna, the matter would have ended. But he keeps saying “Bhagavan,” and still pays no attention!

When God himself is the charioteer—if indeed he knows Krishna is God—and he is seated on the chariot with the reins in his own hands, why does Arjuna unnecessarily carry the burden of thinking on his head? If he truly knows they are God, what is left to ask? The reins are in their hands—leave it! But he says “Bhagavan”; he does not yet know.

We too keep saying “God,” but we do not know. A man stands in a temple before God and says, “My son has no job; please get him a job, God.” If he knows God, he should at least know that God would already be aware that the boy has no job. Please do not offer this information. And if God does not even know that much, then folding your hands before such a god will achieve nothing. What the ordinary devotee does before God is exactly this: he says “God!”—and he doubts even so much as this: “Now, my boy doesn’t have a job…”

On the cross, in the last moment, when the nails had been driven through his hands, a cry burst from Jesus’ mouth: “O God, what are you making me go through! What are you making happen!” For a moment it escaped Jesus’ lips: “What are you making happen!”

What does it mean? A complaint. It means that Jesus wanted to see something else, and something else was happening. It means there was no surrender; it means the reins were not in God’s hands; it means that in that instant Jesus considered himself wiser than God!

Immediately Jesus became aware. Arjuna takes very long to become aware; Jesus realized at once. As soon as that cry escaped—“O God, what are you making happen!”—the next sentence he uttered was: “Forgive. Thy will be done.” What was it that I said—“What are you showing me!” A doubt had arisen.

In my understanding, at the moment of the first utterance Jesus was Mary’s son, and at the moment of the second he became the Christ. In between, a revolution took place. A moment earlier he was merely Mary’s son, who said, “What are you making me see!”—there was complaint. In the heart of a theist there can be no complaint. In the very next moment came, “Forgive; Thy will be done.” What you are doing is right; there is no question of anything else being right.

In that moment he became the Christ. In the next instant he was no longer merely Mary’s ordinary son; he became the Son of God.

Arjuna keeps saying “Bhagavan, Bhagavan!”—but it is only an address, just as all addresses are hollow and formal. God is not yet visible to him. What he sees is this: his friend Krishna, sitting as charioteer, holding the reins. He is there, so Arjuna asks. But if the experience of God were actually there, what would be left to ask! He should say, “The reins are in your hands; as you wish. Thy will be done—let your will be fulfilled.”

Therefore his addressing Krishna as “Bhagavan” is not yet meaningful, because even after the address he keeps making the decision himself. He says, “I will not fight.” He says, “Bhagavan!” and he says, “I will not fight.” That Krishna laughs, and says, “You speak contrary things,” is only appropriate.

We will continue the rest in the evening.