Chapter #17
Even Bein Gawd Ain T A Bed Of Roses #17
Date:
1979-10-17
(pm)
Place:
Chuang Tzu Auditorium
Osho's Commentary
DHYAN ELLEN : MEDITATION IS LIGHT AND THAT LIGHT IS GOD.
OSHO : Man without meditation is man without light. Man without meditation is in a dark night of the soul; not even a ray of light is possible without meditation. Meditation is the method to ignite your inner soul, your inner flame; and once you are full of light within the whole existence is full of light for you. That experience of light within and without is God. That merger of the light within and without is God. That merger of the light within and without, that meeting, that orgasmic togetherness, oneness -- that is God. Hence all the scriptures of the world say: God is light. It would be better to say: Light is Gods
DEVA ELLEN : DIVINE LIGHT.
OSHO : We are made of light. That is our true substance. The stuff the universe is made of is light.
Mystics have known it for centuries, now scientists also agree. From different paths they have arrived at the same conclusion: the mystics went in and at the innermost core of their being they found light, and the scientists have penetrated deeply into matter and at the deepest core of matter they have found light That is the first agreement between religion and science, and that is going to become the foundation of a great synthesis in the future.
If we can agree on one point totally we can agree on everything else too. And it is something fundamental. But science thinks light is material and religion thinks light is divine, that's where they are not yet in agreement. That too is bound to happen sooner of later; the most alert scientists have become aware of that too.
Eddington said in the last years of his life: "When I was young existence used to appear like things to me but the deeper I went into its mysteries, existence no longer appeared like things; it appeared more like thoughts."
Albert Einstein, just two days before he died said, "The more I have known, the more I have become aware of the mysteriousness of existence. It is unfathomable."
Matter simply means that which is measureable. The very word "matter" means measurable: it comes from measure. If Albert Einstein says that the mystery unfathomable he is just coming closer to the declaration of the mystics that existence is basically unknowable. We can merge with it, we can experience it, but we cannot know it. Knowledge means knowing something from the outside as a spectator; experience means entering into it, not being a spectator but a participant.
Those who have participated in the mystery of life have all said one thing: it is divine. By divine they mean it is conscious; it is not an unconscious jumble of matter, a jumble of unconscious atoms, but an ocean of consciousness.
For centuries science has been denying that existence is light, that it is made of light. Now that they have agreed upon the first point the second is inevitable. They will have to agree with it because light is no more matter. When something is not matter then what is it? It can only be energy.
Existence appears so harmonious, so rhythmic.... It is not a chaos, it is a cosmos. That means there is tremendous intelligence behind it. That intelligence is written all over the place, on every leaf of every tree, on each pebble on the seashore. To become aware of the intelligence is to become aware of God, but the best and the shortest way is of the mystic.
The scientist's way is the longest. He comes to the same conclusion but he lags centuries behind. Mystics have known these things for ten thousand years at least. Science is lagging ten thousand years behind. Science should learn more from the mystics: from Buddha, from Zarathustra, from Jesus. It should become more and more open to these really mysterious people. It should allow itself to go with them a little more, it should take a little more courage to go into the unknown. Then the second thing is bound to happen
But my work here is that of a mystic, not of a scientist: I help you to go in. Now the methods are absolutely known. How to go in is an open secret. All that is needed is your decision to go in; and sannyas is your decision to go inwards. Now devote your energies more and more to the decision you are committed to. This is the greatest moment of your life. If this decision is followed up it is going to transform you, it is going to give you an insight into the eternal.
OSHO (to ?????? Joekes) : Bliss is a happening, it is not something you can do. It is not within your capacity or anybody's capacity to create it. It can't be made by man; man has to learn how to receive it. Man has to be open and available to God. That's exactly the meaning of prayer: to be open and available, to allow God to do something to you. The moment you allow God to do something to you bliss happens. It needs great trust and surrender.
One has to put aside one's ego. The ego is a great doer; one has to put aside all doing. Then sitting silently doing nothing, suddenly it is there. And once you have known the knack of it, once you have known that sitting silently doing nothing it comes of its own accord, you have come across the greatest secret of your life. Then you know the key, the master key, which can unlock all the doors of existence.
OSHO (to Rosa) : Rose has two meanings. Both are beautiful and both are deeply related to each other. The first meaning is rose and the second meaning is giver of love.
Bliss is a flowering of your consciousness. But the flower blooms only when you become available to God. Just as in the morning the flower opens up because he is available to the sun, God functions almost like sunrise for our consciousness. People who are closed to God never bloom. Once the rose has opened up it releases great fragrance. That fragrance is love. Hence the second meaning is also of great importance: giver of love.
Become a rose of bliss and you will also become a giver of love. Remember, only a blissful person can love. The miserable person can try but he is doomed to fail because we can give only that which we already have.
OSHO (to Riet) : Anudasi means a slave -- a slave of love. But the miracle is that one who is a slave of love becomes a master of love. That's the only way to become a master. There has never been any other way and there will never be.
To surrender in love is to conquer. To disappear in love is to be. Love is the most paradoxical phenomenon in life. Try to conquer and you will be defeated, try to possess and you will lose it, try to dominate and you will not find it. And that's what millions of people go on doing; hence they live without love, without the taste of love. And not to taste love in your life is not to love at all.
The taste of love is the taste of God. but one has to understand its paradoxical nature: surrender and it is yours, die and you are resurrected by it.
TO JEANANNE -- NOW MA PREM SONO:
OSHO : Love is the real gold, in fact the only gold. Except love, all is dust. Those who live without love are living in mud. They will never know anything divine, they will know only dust and dust and dust. They will never see anything of the beyond. They will crawl on the earth, they will be living dead. They will never look upwards, the sky full of stars will not be for them. They will not see the sunrise, they will not see the beauty of existence, the ecstasy that is all over the place.
Trees are dancing and birds are singing and there is great joy. But only a person who knows love is capable of understanding all this, of becoming part of this celebration.
Love more and more, for no reason at all, for the sheer joy of it, for the insight that it brings. Love is the bridge between human and divine. If we can love, that is religion enough. More than that is not needed, more than that is superfluous, more than that is pure ritual; it is meant for stupid people.
The intelligent person will live a life of love because that is the only spiritual life. He will not be a Christian or a Mohammedan or a Hindu; he will be simply a lover, a lover of existence. But through his love he will come to know God, through his love he will BECOME God!
OSHO (to John) : Premgyan means wisdom that comes through love. Knowledge comes through logic, wisdom comes through love. Knowledge is available in books, in the college, in the universities, but wisdom is not available anywhere except within your own being. For knowledge you will have to go to others; for wisdom you will have to dig a well deep into your own consciousness. And the deeper you go, the fresher are the water you will find.
Meditation is only a technique to dig a well inside your being. Knowledge is borrowed, hence it burdens. Wisdom is yours, hence it liberates.
Osho's Commentary
OSHO : Man without meditation is man without light. Man without meditation is in a dark night of the soul; not even a ray of light is possible without meditation. Meditation is the method to ignite your inner soul, your inner flame; and once you are full of light within the whole existence is full of light for you. That experience of light within and without is God. That merger of the light within and without is God. That merger of the light within and without, that meeting, that orgasmic togetherness, oneness -- that is God. Hence all the scriptures of the world say: God is light.
It would be better to say: Light is Gods
DEVA ELLEN : DIVINE LIGHT.
OSHO : We are made of light. That is our true substance. The stuff the universe is made of is light.
Mystics have known it for centuries, now scientists also agree. From different paths they have arrived at the same conclusion: the mystics went in and at the innermost core of their being they found light, and the scientists have penetrated deeply into matter and at the deepest core of matter they have found light That is the first agreement between religion and science, and that is going to become the foundation of a great synthesis in the future.
If we can agree on one point totally we can agree on everything else too. And it is something fundamental. But science thinks light is material and religion thinks light is divine, that's where they are not yet in agreement. That too is bound to happen sooner of later; the most alert scientists have become aware of that too.
Eddington said in the last years of his life: "When I was young existence used to appear like things to me but the deeper I went into its mysteries, existence no longer appeared like things; it appeared more like thoughts."
Albert Einstein, just two days before he died said, "The more I have known, the more I have become aware of the mysteriousness of existence. It is unfathomable."
Matter simply means that which is measureable. The very word "matter" means measurable: it comes from measure. If Albert Einstein says that the mystery unfathomable he is just coming closer to the declaration of the mystics that existence is basically unknowable. We can merge with it, we can experience it, but we cannot know it. Knowledge means knowing something from the outside as a spectator; experience means entering into it, not being a spectator but a participant.
Those who have participated in the mystery of life have all said one thing: it is divine. By divine they mean it is conscious; it is not an unconscious jumble of matter, a jumble of unconscious atoms, but an ocean of consciousness.
For centuries science has been denying that existence is light, that it is made of light. Now that they have agreed upon the first point the second is inevitable. They will have to agree with it because light is no more matter. When something is not matter then what is it? It can only be energy.
Existence appears so harmonious, so rhythmic.... It is not a chaos, it is a cosmos. That means there is tremendous intelligence behind it. That intelligence is written all over the place, on every leaf of every tree, on each pebble on the seashore. To become aware of the intelligence is to become aware of God, but the best and the shortest way is of the mystic.
The scientist's way is the longest. He comes to the same conclusion but he lags centuries behind. Mystics have known these things for ten thousand years at least. Science is lagging ten thousand years behind. Science should learn more from the mystics: from Buddha, from Zarathustra, from Jesus. It should become more and more open to these really mysterious people. It should allow itself to go with them a little more, it should take a little more courage to go into the unknown. Then the second thing is bound to happen
But my work here is that of a mystic, not of a scientist: I help you to go in. Now the methods are absolutely known. How to go in is an open secret. All that is needed is your decision to go in; and sannyas is your decision to go inwards. Now devote your energies more and more to the decision you are committed to. This is the greatest moment of your life. If this decision is followed up it is going to transform you, it is going to give you an insight into the eternal.
OSHO (to ?????? Joekes) : Bliss is a happening, it is not something you can do. It is not within your capacity or anybody's capacity to create it. It can't be made by man; man has to learn how to receive it. Man has to be open and available to God. That's exactly the meaning of prayer: to be open and available, to allow God to do something to you. The moment you allow God to do something to you bliss happens. It needs great trust and surrender.
One has to put aside one's ego. The ego is a great doer; one has to put aside all doing. Then sitting silently doing nothing, suddenly it is there. And once you have known the knack of it, once you have known that sitting silently doing nothing it comes of its own accord, you have come across the greatest secret of your life. Then you know the key, the master key, which can unlock all the doors of existence.
OSHO (to Rosa) : Rose has two meanings. Both are beautiful and both are deeply related to each other. The first meaning is rose and the second meaning is giver of love.
Bliss is a flowering of your consciousness. But the flower blooms only when you become available to God. Just as in the morning the flower opens up because he is available to the sun, God functions almost like sunrise for our consciousness. People who are closed to God never bloom. Once the rose has opened up it releases great fragrance. That fragrance is love. Hence the second meaning is also of great importance: giver of love.
Become a rose of bliss and you will also become a giver of love. Remember, only a blissful person can love. The miserable person can try but he is doomed to fail because we can give only that which we already have.
OSHO (to Riet) : Anudasi means a slave -- a slave of love. But the miracle is that one who is a slave of love becomes a master of love. That's the only way to become a master. There has never been any other way and there will never be.
To surrender in love is to conquer. To disappear in love is to be. Love is the most paradoxical phenomenon in life. Try to conquer and you will be defeated, try to possess and you will lose it, try to dominate and you will not find it. And that's what millions of people go on doing; hence they live without love, without the taste of love. And not to taste love in your life is not to love at all.
The taste of love is the taste of God. but one has to understand its paradoxical nature: surrender and it is yours, die and you are resurrected by it.
TO JEANANNE -- NOW MA PREM SONO:
OSHO : Love is the real gold, in fact the only gold. Except love, all is dust. Those who live without love are living in mud. They will never know anything divine, they will know only dust and dust and dust. They will never see anything of the beyond. They will crawl on the earth, they will be living dead. They will never look upwards, the sky full of stars will not be for them. They will not see the sunrise, they will not see the beauty of existence, the ecstasy that is all over the place.
Trees are dancing and birds are singing and there is great joy. But only a person who knows love is capable of understanding all this, of becoming part of this celebration.
Love more and more, for no reason at all, for the sheer joy of it, for the insight that it brings. Love is the bridge between human and divine. If we can love, that is religion enough. More than that is not needed, more than that is superfluous, more than that is pure ritual; it is meant for stupid people.
The intelligent person will live a life of love because that is the only spiritual life. He will not be a Christian or a Mohammedan or a Hindu; he will be simply a lover, a lover of existence. But through his love he will come to know God, through his love he will BECOME God!
OSHO (to John) : Premgyan means wisdom that comes through love. Knowledge comes through logic, wisdom comes through love. Knowledge is available in books, in the college, in the universities, but wisdom is not available anywhere except within your own being. For knowledge you will have to go to others; for wisdom you will have to dig a well deep into your own consciousness. And the deeper you go, the fresher are the water you will find.
Meditation is only a technique to dig a well inside your being. Knowledge is borrowed, hence it burdens. Wisdom is yours, hence it liberates.