By whom the world is not disturbed, and who is not disturbed by the world.
Free from elation, vexation, fear, and agitation—he is dear to me।। 15।।
Unexpectant, pure, skillful, dispassionate, beyond distress.
Renouncing every undertaking—such a devotee of mine is dear to me।। 16।।
Geeta Darshan #8
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Read in Original Hindi (मूल हिन्दी)
Sutra (Original)
यस्मान्नोद्विजते लोको लोकान्नोद्विजते च यः।
हर्षामर्षभयोद्वेगैर्मुक्तो यः स च मे प्रियः।। 15।।
अनपेक्षः शुचिर्दक्ष उदासीनो गतव्यथः।
सर्वारम्भपरित्यागी यो मद्भक्तः स मे प्रियः।। 16।।
हर्षामर्षभयोद्वेगैर्मुक्तो यः स च मे प्रियः।। 15।।
अनपेक्षः शुचिर्दक्ष उदासीनो गतव्यथः।
सर्वारम्भपरित्यागी यो मद्भक्तः स मे प्रियः।। 16।।
Transliteration:
yasmānnodvijate loko lokānnodvijate ca yaḥ|
harṣāmarṣabhayodvegairmukto yaḥ sa ca me priyaḥ|| 15||
anapekṣaḥ śucirdakṣa udāsīno gatavyathaḥ|
sarvārambhaparityāgī yo madbhaktaḥ sa me priyaḥ|| 16||
yasmānnodvijate loko lokānnodvijate ca yaḥ|
harṣāmarṣabhayodvegairmukto yaḥ sa ca me priyaḥ|| 15||
anapekṣaḥ śucirdakṣa udāsīno gatavyathaḥ|
sarvārambhaparityāgī yo madbhaktaḥ sa me priyaḥ|| 16||
Translation (Meaning)
Questions in this Discourse
A friend has asked, Osho, why is the path to attaining God so hard, long, and full of suffering? Why isn’t there an easy, simple, and joyful way to attain Him?
The path is not the least bit painful. Nor is it difficult. The path is supremely easy, simple, and joy-filled. But the way we are creates the difficulty. The difficulty does not arise from the path; it arises from us. And if the way to the Divine seems full of hardships, it is not because the road is thorny, but because it hurts to drop the diseases we are full of.
The obstacle is ours. The complexity is ours. The way itself is utterly smooth. If you become simple, the path is simple. If you are complicated, the path is complicated—because you are the path. You have to pass through yourself, and because you have to arrive, you will have to change.
Take a thief, for example. Without dropping stealing he won’t be able to move even an inch on the path of prayer. But there is a taste in stealing, a habit, a visible profit—so giving it up feels difficult.
And God’s joy seems far away; the profit of stealing is “now” and “here.” Besides, whether God even is or not remains a doubt. What you will lose by dropping theft is obvious; what you will gain in God appears a far-off imagination, a dream.
So dropping theft becomes hard, dropping violence becomes hard, dropping anger becomes hard. These difficulties are not because of God; they are because of us.
If you become simple, even the idea of a path disappears. Not even the difficulty of traveling a path remains. If you become simple, you discover that God has always been present right by you; only your complication kept Him from being seen.
If there were truly a road to walk, then yes, there would be some exertion. But there is not such distance between man and God that walking would be needed. It is we who are so complex, so entangled.
I have heard: a man was running near a capital city. He asked a man sitting by the roadside, “I want to reach the capital—how far is it?” The man replied, “Before I answer, I must ask you two questions. First, in which direction do you intend to search? If you keep going the way you are going and want to reach the capital, then it is as far as the circumference of the earth—because you have left it behind. If you insist on searching this way, you’ll have to go all the way around and return to reach it. But if you are ready to turn back, the capital is right behind you.
“So first: in which direction will you search? Second: at what pace will you search? Because the distance will depend on your gait. If you move at an ant’s pace, even the city that is behind you will be very far. So the distance to the capital depends on your direction and your speed.”
How far God is will depend on which direction you are searching, and also on your speed. Search in the wrong direction, and it is very hard. And we are all searching in the wrong direction.
The irony is that even the atheist is searching for God. By “God” I mean the ultimate bliss, the ultimate meaning of life, its purpose, its significance—what the point of life is. The atheist is searching for that too. It is hard to find a person who is not seeking God.
Yes, one may be seeking on a wrong road, in a wrong direction—that is possible. But that one is not seeking God at all—this is not possible. He may not call his search “God,” but every search is for the same thing—the search for joy, for meaning, for significance. Your search is His search. The search for existence itself is His search. What name you give it depends on you.
But you can set out to find the sun with your back turned toward it. You can walk thousands of miles and never see the sun. And here is the amusing fact: even if you have walked a thousand miles with your back to the sun, the moment you turn around you will see it.
So do not think that because you have gone a thousand miles away from God, you will have to walk a thousand miles toward Him to see Him. Turn around now and you will see Him at once.
It does not matter how far you have wandered from God. If you are willing to turn around, God will be seen this very moment. The distance between you and Him is not real; it is only the distance of your turned back—merely a question of direction. He stands right with you. He is hidden within you.
Understand first that the difficulty is not of the road. Therefore do not seek an easier road; seek to be easy, to be simple.
Many people look for an easy road. They ask, “Any shortcut?” They fall into great delusions, because there is no shortcut to reach God. For turning around your back, what shortcut could there be? If all that is needed is to turn, and God will be in front, what could be more concise than that? It cannot be made any shorter.
But we go on looking for a shortcut. Why? Because we want a path that is easy—which secretly means: a path that does not change me.
When we ask for an easy path, we are really asking: “Tell me something by which, as I am, I can meet God; I should not have to do anything. ‘Easy’ means: let God be given to me for free. I should not have to drop, break, or change anything. Let me meet Him as I am.” This is the hidden desire within.
This will never happen. If it were going to happen, it would have happened long ago. You have been trying this for many lives. This is not your new quest; it is of hundreds of thousands of years. And the mistake has been the same: you seek an easy path, not an easy, simple being. Become simple and the path is simple. Put your concern into how you can become simple.
And no process of inner revolution has a shortcut. Whatever you did to twist yourself will at least have to be undone to become straight. So drop the whole obsession with an easy path; attend to your complexity.
Try to understand your complexity. Find how each knot can be untied, one by one. As you open within, you will find the Divine opening to you without. As you open inside, the Divine opens outside. The day you are utterly open within, the Divine stands before you.
Buddha said this—when he became enlightened and someone asked, “What did you gain?” Buddha replied, “I have gained nothing at all—only known that which was always given. Nothing new has come to me. But that which was always with me and yet unseen, that I have seen.”
He said, “Do not ask what I gained; better ask what I lost. For I did lose something; I gained nothing. I lost my ignorance. I lost my foolishness. I lost the wrong direction and wrong ways. I lost a wrong way of living. ‘I gained’ is not right, because what seems ‘gained’ was already there. Now, knowing, I can say it was always mine. Only I was wrong; hence I could not recognize it. Even that which was hidden within me I could not reach, because I was searching elsewhere.”
There was a Sufi mystic, a woman—Rabia. One evening people saw her searching for something on the road in the dusk. They asked, “What are you looking for?” She said, “I have lost my needle.” They all began to help her. Then one man thought, “The sun is setting, it is getting dark; her needle is tiny and the road is large. Where exactly did it fall? If we know the exact place, we might find it.” He asked, “Where precisely did you lose it? Tell us, or we will be searching aimlessly as the light fades.”
Rabia said, “Do not raise that question, because the needle fell inside my house.” Everyone stood still. “Madwoman!” they said. “If it fell inside, why are you looking out here?” She said, “There is no light in the house. There is light here. How can I search without light? So I search here.”
You too are searching, without even asking where what was lost was lost. Until you know this precisely—where God was lost; whether He was lost at all; and if lost, whether within or without—your search will be only wandering.
But you are like Rabia. She was teasing them. And when they laughed, saying, “Madwoman! Since the needle was lost inside, search there. And if there is no light within, take the light inside, rather than searching in the light outside. If the needle isn’t outside, light won’t produce it! Light can only reveal what is present. So take the light within.”
Rabia said, “You laugh at me, but I am only following the way of the world. I have seen everyone searching outside. And no one has lost it outside. I thought, then this must be the right way—follow the world’s custom.”
Where are you searching? Where are you searching for joy? One is searching in wealth; another in friends; another in love; another in fame; another in prestige. The whole search is outward. But are you certain you ever lost joy outside? And why are you searching for joy if you have no prior sense of it?
This needs a little reflection. You cannot search for something of which you have no prior taste. How would you search?
Everyone feels there is no joy. From this one thing is clear: somewhere deep within you do know what joy is. Otherwise how do you say there is no joy? How do you say there is suffering? One who has never seen darkness cannot know light; one who has never seen light cannot even identify darkness. To recognize darkness, a taste of light is needed.
If you feel, “This is suffering,” then you must have some inkling of bliss. Only then can you judge, “This is not as it should be; there is no joy, there is pain.”
Everyone experiences suffering. From this comes a fundamental insight of spirituality: everyone, knowingly or unknowingly, has the experience of bliss. Perhaps you yourself do not know it, but in the depths of your life there is still some intimation of bliss. With that you measure, and you find: No, this is not fitting—and that is what you are seeking.
What is hidden in your depths is what you are seeking. But you are seeking outside, not where it is hidden. And the reason for seeking outside is the same as Rabia’s: the eyes open outward, so the light seems outside. The hands reach outward; the ears hear outward; all the senses open outward. The light of the senses falls outside; hence we search outside.
We are within, and the senses open outward. Therefore any search through the senses will take you nowhere. The senses go outward; you are inward. You are hidden behind the senses; your treasure is hidden behind, and the senses go out. This is their function. The senses are bridges to the world; therefore they go out.
Within, eyes are not needed, because within seeing happens without eyes. Within, ears are not needed, because within hearing happens without ears. Within, hands are not needed, because within, touch happens without hands. Hence the senses have no use inwardly. All inner experience is supersensory; it happens without the senses.
The senses are needed for the world. They are instruments, means of connecting with the world. The more you want to connect with the world, the stronger your senses must be.
Scientists say that all of science is nothing but strengthening the senses. Your eye sees only a little distance; a telescope sees for miles, then greater telescopes see the stars. What are we doing? The star unseen by the naked eye becomes visible through the telescope, because it is a more powerful instrument. It builds a bridge farther out. The naked eye does not reach so far.
You hear with the ear. A radio “hears” too, but it picks up sounds from far away. You see with the eye. A television “sees” too, but it captures images from afar. All scientific inventions are refinements of the senses. The world of science is the world of the senses. The whole world is joined through the senses.
But this creates one mischief: you set out to find God by the same sensory routes. That mistake is like trying to hear music with the eyes. Eyes can see; they cannot hear. However powerful the eye, it will not hear. Hearing is not the eye’s work; it will be done by the ear. And if the ear tries to see, there will be trouble—madness.
The senses are roads to the outer; through them the inner cannot be found. The senses connect you with matter; they cannot connect you with God. That is their limitation—just as seeing is the eye’s limit; there is no fault in it.
The senses are instruments of outer knowing. And that which is hidden—that which you are—is within. To find it, the doors of the senses must be closed and one must dive within. The bridges of the senses must be left. You must turn back from the paths of the senses and stand within yourself.
This standing within is called spirituality. And one who stands within finds: I was searching for what I had never lost. I was troubled for union with that from which I had never been separated. What was always near I was seeking far away. And because I sought far away, I did not find; not finding, I became more anxious; becoming anxious, I searched even farther. Thus the search becomes a vicious circle.
It is very simple, because God is so near to you that even to call it “near” is improper—near still implies a little distance. God is in your every breath, in every pore. Properly seen, you are nothing but the Divine.
The obstacle is ours. The complexity is ours. The way itself is utterly smooth. If you become simple, the path is simple. If you are complicated, the path is complicated—because you are the path. You have to pass through yourself, and because you have to arrive, you will have to change.
Take a thief, for example. Without dropping stealing he won’t be able to move even an inch on the path of prayer. But there is a taste in stealing, a habit, a visible profit—so giving it up feels difficult.
And God’s joy seems far away; the profit of stealing is “now” and “here.” Besides, whether God even is or not remains a doubt. What you will lose by dropping theft is obvious; what you will gain in God appears a far-off imagination, a dream.
So dropping theft becomes hard, dropping violence becomes hard, dropping anger becomes hard. These difficulties are not because of God; they are because of us.
If you become simple, even the idea of a path disappears. Not even the difficulty of traveling a path remains. If you become simple, you discover that God has always been present right by you; only your complication kept Him from being seen.
If there were truly a road to walk, then yes, there would be some exertion. But there is not such distance between man and God that walking would be needed. It is we who are so complex, so entangled.
I have heard: a man was running near a capital city. He asked a man sitting by the roadside, “I want to reach the capital—how far is it?” The man replied, “Before I answer, I must ask you two questions. First, in which direction do you intend to search? If you keep going the way you are going and want to reach the capital, then it is as far as the circumference of the earth—because you have left it behind. If you insist on searching this way, you’ll have to go all the way around and return to reach it. But if you are ready to turn back, the capital is right behind you.
“So first: in which direction will you search? Second: at what pace will you search? Because the distance will depend on your gait. If you move at an ant’s pace, even the city that is behind you will be very far. So the distance to the capital depends on your direction and your speed.”
How far God is will depend on which direction you are searching, and also on your speed. Search in the wrong direction, and it is very hard. And we are all searching in the wrong direction.
The irony is that even the atheist is searching for God. By “God” I mean the ultimate bliss, the ultimate meaning of life, its purpose, its significance—what the point of life is. The atheist is searching for that too. It is hard to find a person who is not seeking God.
Yes, one may be seeking on a wrong road, in a wrong direction—that is possible. But that one is not seeking God at all—this is not possible. He may not call his search “God,” but every search is for the same thing—the search for joy, for meaning, for significance. Your search is His search. The search for existence itself is His search. What name you give it depends on you.
But you can set out to find the sun with your back turned toward it. You can walk thousands of miles and never see the sun. And here is the amusing fact: even if you have walked a thousand miles with your back to the sun, the moment you turn around you will see it.
So do not think that because you have gone a thousand miles away from God, you will have to walk a thousand miles toward Him to see Him. Turn around now and you will see Him at once.
It does not matter how far you have wandered from God. If you are willing to turn around, God will be seen this very moment. The distance between you and Him is not real; it is only the distance of your turned back—merely a question of direction. He stands right with you. He is hidden within you.
Understand first that the difficulty is not of the road. Therefore do not seek an easier road; seek to be easy, to be simple.
Many people look for an easy road. They ask, “Any shortcut?” They fall into great delusions, because there is no shortcut to reach God. For turning around your back, what shortcut could there be? If all that is needed is to turn, and God will be in front, what could be more concise than that? It cannot be made any shorter.
But we go on looking for a shortcut. Why? Because we want a path that is easy—which secretly means: a path that does not change me.
When we ask for an easy path, we are really asking: “Tell me something by which, as I am, I can meet God; I should not have to do anything. ‘Easy’ means: let God be given to me for free. I should not have to drop, break, or change anything. Let me meet Him as I am.” This is the hidden desire within.
This will never happen. If it were going to happen, it would have happened long ago. You have been trying this for many lives. This is not your new quest; it is of hundreds of thousands of years. And the mistake has been the same: you seek an easy path, not an easy, simple being. Become simple and the path is simple. Put your concern into how you can become simple.
And no process of inner revolution has a shortcut. Whatever you did to twist yourself will at least have to be undone to become straight. So drop the whole obsession with an easy path; attend to your complexity.
Try to understand your complexity. Find how each knot can be untied, one by one. As you open within, you will find the Divine opening to you without. As you open inside, the Divine opens outside. The day you are utterly open within, the Divine stands before you.
Buddha said this—when he became enlightened and someone asked, “What did you gain?” Buddha replied, “I have gained nothing at all—only known that which was always given. Nothing new has come to me. But that which was always with me and yet unseen, that I have seen.”
He said, “Do not ask what I gained; better ask what I lost. For I did lose something; I gained nothing. I lost my ignorance. I lost my foolishness. I lost the wrong direction and wrong ways. I lost a wrong way of living. ‘I gained’ is not right, because what seems ‘gained’ was already there. Now, knowing, I can say it was always mine. Only I was wrong; hence I could not recognize it. Even that which was hidden within me I could not reach, because I was searching elsewhere.”
There was a Sufi mystic, a woman—Rabia. One evening people saw her searching for something on the road in the dusk. They asked, “What are you looking for?” She said, “I have lost my needle.” They all began to help her. Then one man thought, “The sun is setting, it is getting dark; her needle is tiny and the road is large. Where exactly did it fall? If we know the exact place, we might find it.” He asked, “Where precisely did you lose it? Tell us, or we will be searching aimlessly as the light fades.”
Rabia said, “Do not raise that question, because the needle fell inside my house.” Everyone stood still. “Madwoman!” they said. “If it fell inside, why are you looking out here?” She said, “There is no light in the house. There is light here. How can I search without light? So I search here.”
You too are searching, without even asking where what was lost was lost. Until you know this precisely—where God was lost; whether He was lost at all; and if lost, whether within or without—your search will be only wandering.
But you are like Rabia. She was teasing them. And when they laughed, saying, “Madwoman! Since the needle was lost inside, search there. And if there is no light within, take the light inside, rather than searching in the light outside. If the needle isn’t outside, light won’t produce it! Light can only reveal what is present. So take the light within.”
Rabia said, “You laugh at me, but I am only following the way of the world. I have seen everyone searching outside. And no one has lost it outside. I thought, then this must be the right way—follow the world’s custom.”
Where are you searching? Where are you searching for joy? One is searching in wealth; another in friends; another in love; another in fame; another in prestige. The whole search is outward. But are you certain you ever lost joy outside? And why are you searching for joy if you have no prior sense of it?
This needs a little reflection. You cannot search for something of which you have no prior taste. How would you search?
Everyone feels there is no joy. From this one thing is clear: somewhere deep within you do know what joy is. Otherwise how do you say there is no joy? How do you say there is suffering? One who has never seen darkness cannot know light; one who has never seen light cannot even identify darkness. To recognize darkness, a taste of light is needed.
If you feel, “This is suffering,” then you must have some inkling of bliss. Only then can you judge, “This is not as it should be; there is no joy, there is pain.”
Everyone experiences suffering. From this comes a fundamental insight of spirituality: everyone, knowingly or unknowingly, has the experience of bliss. Perhaps you yourself do not know it, but in the depths of your life there is still some intimation of bliss. With that you measure, and you find: No, this is not fitting—and that is what you are seeking.
What is hidden in your depths is what you are seeking. But you are seeking outside, not where it is hidden. And the reason for seeking outside is the same as Rabia’s: the eyes open outward, so the light seems outside. The hands reach outward; the ears hear outward; all the senses open outward. The light of the senses falls outside; hence we search outside.
We are within, and the senses open outward. Therefore any search through the senses will take you nowhere. The senses go outward; you are inward. You are hidden behind the senses; your treasure is hidden behind, and the senses go out. This is their function. The senses are bridges to the world; therefore they go out.
Within, eyes are not needed, because within seeing happens without eyes. Within, ears are not needed, because within hearing happens without ears. Within, hands are not needed, because within, touch happens without hands. Hence the senses have no use inwardly. All inner experience is supersensory; it happens without the senses.
The senses are needed for the world. They are instruments, means of connecting with the world. The more you want to connect with the world, the stronger your senses must be.
Scientists say that all of science is nothing but strengthening the senses. Your eye sees only a little distance; a telescope sees for miles, then greater telescopes see the stars. What are we doing? The star unseen by the naked eye becomes visible through the telescope, because it is a more powerful instrument. It builds a bridge farther out. The naked eye does not reach so far.
You hear with the ear. A radio “hears” too, but it picks up sounds from far away. You see with the eye. A television “sees” too, but it captures images from afar. All scientific inventions are refinements of the senses. The world of science is the world of the senses. The whole world is joined through the senses.
But this creates one mischief: you set out to find God by the same sensory routes. That mistake is like trying to hear music with the eyes. Eyes can see; they cannot hear. However powerful the eye, it will not hear. Hearing is not the eye’s work; it will be done by the ear. And if the ear tries to see, there will be trouble—madness.
The senses are roads to the outer; through them the inner cannot be found. The senses connect you with matter; they cannot connect you with God. That is their limitation—just as seeing is the eye’s limit; there is no fault in it.
The senses are instruments of outer knowing. And that which is hidden—that which you are—is within. To find it, the doors of the senses must be closed and one must dive within. The bridges of the senses must be left. You must turn back from the paths of the senses and stand within yourself.
This standing within is called spirituality. And one who stands within finds: I was searching for what I had never lost. I was troubled for union with that from which I had never been separated. What was always near I was seeking far away. And because I sought far away, I did not find; not finding, I became more anxious; becoming anxious, I searched even farther. Thus the search becomes a vicious circle.
It is very simple, because God is so near to you that even to call it “near” is improper—near still implies a little distance. God is in your every breath, in every pore. Properly seen, you are nothing but the Divine.
A friend has asked another question. He asked: If we are the Divine, then what need is there to know?
If it has truly been realized that you are the Divine, then there is no need to know. But the “if” is dangerous. You ask, “If we are the Divine...” It is precisely to dissolve that “if” that the search is needed. That very “if,” that conditionality, is the mischief.
That friend also asked: What will happen by attaining God, when He is already there?
Nothing at all will happen; only the search will disappear. And the moment the search disappears, suffering disappears, the chase ends. And until He is found, the search will continue.
Another friend has asked: If man himself is God—if He is hidden within—then why doesn’t one meet Him? What is the obstruction?
The obstruction is this: it is also the power of consciousness that, if it wishes, it can forget itself; and it is also the power of consciousness that, if it wishes, it can remember itself. It’s a bit subtle. Consciousness, by its very nature, holds both remembrance and forgetfulness. The two come together.
If someone says, “I only have the power to remember, not to forget,” don’t believe it. One who cannot forget cannot remember either. Forgetting and remembering go hand in hand. Only one who can forget can remember; and one who can remember can forget.
You think the power of memory within you stands on its own, but it stands upon forgetfulness. Psychologists say that if a person were to stop forgetting, then from that very day he would also stop remembering.
Think a little: in the span of a day, if everything that happens were to remain with you, if you forgot nothing—do you know how much happens? Psychologists estimate that at least a million impressions strike a person’s senses in twenty-four hours—at least—and that’s for someone not doing very much. For one who does more, there are even more.
A million impressions. If all of them remained, the next day you wouldn’t know where you were. You would go mad. If a million remained, you wouldn’t even remember who you are, who your wife is, where your home is—everything would be in chaos.
Out of that million, not even ten remain. You forget almost all. That is why your memory can function. That is why you know who you are, where your home is, and in the evening you reach your own house from the office without trouble. You wouldn’t reach home if everything that happened through the day stayed with you.
It is because of forgetfulness that memory works. Understand this polarity of existence.
Existence moves by polarity. If positive electricity is needed here, it cannot be without negative electricity. If man is needed here, it cannot be without woman. If woman is needed, it cannot be without man. If day is needed, there will be night. If birth is needed, there will be death. The opposite will always be present—and from the opposite the whole order arises.
Consciousness can remember because it can forget. This is the very quality of consciousness. If your consciousness wishes, it can remember who it is; the day it remembers, it becomes divine. And if it wishes, it can forget; when it forgets, it becomes an ordinary part of the world. The only question is: how can this re‑membrance arise again in you?
If someone says, “I only have the power to remember, not to forget,” don’t believe it. One who cannot forget cannot remember either. Forgetting and remembering go hand in hand. Only one who can forget can remember; and one who can remember can forget.
You think the power of memory within you stands on its own, but it stands upon forgetfulness. Psychologists say that if a person were to stop forgetting, then from that very day he would also stop remembering.
Think a little: in the span of a day, if everything that happens were to remain with you, if you forgot nothing—do you know how much happens? Psychologists estimate that at least a million impressions strike a person’s senses in twenty-four hours—at least—and that’s for someone not doing very much. For one who does more, there are even more.
A million impressions. If all of them remained, the next day you wouldn’t know where you were. You would go mad. If a million remained, you wouldn’t even remember who you are, who your wife is, where your home is—everything would be in chaos.
Out of that million, not even ten remain. You forget almost all. That is why your memory can function. That is why you know who you are, where your home is, and in the evening you reach your own house from the office without trouble. You wouldn’t reach home if everything that happened through the day stayed with you.
It is because of forgetfulness that memory works. Understand this polarity of existence.
Existence moves by polarity. If positive electricity is needed here, it cannot be without negative electricity. If man is needed here, it cannot be without woman. If woman is needed, it cannot be without man. If day is needed, there will be night. If birth is needed, there will be death. The opposite will always be present—and from the opposite the whole order arises.
Consciousness can remember because it can forget. This is the very quality of consciousness. If your consciousness wishes, it can remember who it is; the day it remembers, it becomes divine. And if it wishes, it can forget; when it forgets, it becomes an ordinary part of the world. The only question is: how can this re‑membrance arise again in you?
But another friend has asked: after all, what need does God have for this game?
It is not that some God is making you play. You are the one playing. We have this notion fixed in our minds that some God is sitting up there, making you play. If there were such a God, making you play this game, he would be worse than the devil—needlessly tormenting you!
It would be like little children tormenting a frog, throwing stones. They are playing their game and the frog’s life is at stake. You are suffering for no reason, imagining some God above is playing a game with you! He would have been bored by now—so much play has happened and nothing essential seems to come out of it.
No: the very notion is wrong that a God is sitting above making you play. You—the divine—are playing the play. This is your own fun, your own delight. Understand this rightly and let it sink deep. It is your own decision that you want to remain ignorant. I say this carefully—I say it emphatically—because it has consequences.
If it is someone else’s decision that you are ignorant, then by your own decision you will never become wise. If some God is keeping you ignorant, then only by his will would you become wise. If some net is trapping you from outside, then you are helpless—what could you do?
It is your own decision that you are playing this game.
Have you seen small children play? They play hide-and-seek. The child closes his own eyes and stands, so that others may hide and then he can search for them.
You yourself are hiding from yourself and searching. This is your delight. And the day you are bored with it, ending the game is in your hands. As long as you say, “I do want to end it, but it doesn’t end,” know that you are being dishonest.
It has never happened that someone truly wanted to end it and the game continued. For the one who wants to finish, it ends that very moment—because your decision is the very basis of the game.
But your trick is that you want to keep playing and also enjoy the thrill of ending. The joy of playing and the joy of finishing. The pleasures of the world and the bliss of the divine. The wealth of the world and the happiness of nirvana—you want everything together. That is why you are in confusion.
If you truly understand that this life is suffering, pain, affliction, a hell, you will inevitably begin to turn within. No one will be able to stop you.
Buddha left home. His charioteer went to see him off. The charioteer was very sad: “How foolish even Buddha is! What a foolish son King Shuddhodana has! People strive for lifetimes before they get a life in such an emperor’s house. Such beautiful palaces, such a beautiful wife, all that luxury and splendor—and this foolish boy is running away!”
Finally, when Buddha was about to dismount and said, “Now take the chariot back,” that old charioteer said, “Granted you are the master and I the servant, but this moment is such that, even if it be a little impolite, I must say something. What are you doing? Leaving the palaces? The whole world is moving toward palaces. Everyone’s aspiration is to reach the palace—and you are leaving it? What folly is this? Pay heed to an old man’s words!”
Buddha said, “Where you see palaces, I see nothing but flames. Those to whom palaces are visible are moving in that direction. Living in the palaces I see the flames, so I am stepping aside from that direction. If they were truly palaces, I too would have stayed—but there are no palaces there.”
The old charioteer, Channa, began to weep; tears streamed from his eyes. He said, “What are you saying? I cannot understand. Have you fallen into some mistake? Are you in some delusion?”
Buddha said, “Those who are moving toward the palaces are in delusion. I have set out to seek that life in which there are no flames. I am going in search of that cool life where there is no blaze.”
But we too want such a cool life. People come to me and say, “Let the mind be quiet!” Yet all their desires are of restlessness. The very desires they wish to fulfill are of unrest—and they also want peace! And the desires they nurture are precisely those that create unrest. Their mindset is such that they want, if they could get peace, to use that peace to fulfill all their mental cravings.
This is a contradiction. It cannot be.
A young man came to me, preparing for a major university examination. He said, “My mind is very disturbed; that is why I have come to you. I have no need of religion or knowledge. Right now there is an exam; my life is at stake. I must come first—first in the first division. Please give me some trick so that my mind becomes peaceful.”
I asked, “Why do you want peace?” He said, “For this very reason. If I become calm, I can manage to come first. In unrest it won’t be possible.”
His argument is logical: with such an agitated mind, how can he work hard enough to come first? The agitation itself is eating up his energy, so he seeks peace. But he does not see why he is restless. He is restless precisely because he wants to come first. That ambition is what is bringing the unrest.
Here is the mischief: he wants peace so that ambition can be fulfilled, and it is that very ambition which produces unrest. Otherwise there is no cause for unrest.
What is to be done for such a youth? No method for peace will work, because the seeds of unrest lie deep within; from them the unrest is arising.
I said to him, “Forget about peace. First tell me why there is unrest. If the cause of unrest is removed, you will be peaceful.”
He said, “I can see that too. I understand that the cause of unrest is precisely that I want to come first. The disturbance in my mind is: what if I don’t come first? That is what torments me. If I drop this craving to be first, there will be no other cause for unrest.”
Then I said, “Decide clearly. If you want ambition, you must have the courage to be restless. I am not telling you to drop ambition—then accept unrest; it is part of it. And if you want peace, drop ambition; have that courage. That is the unavoidable part of peace.”
Our dilemma is that we want what is available in both the world and the divine—we want both. The advantages of ignorance we want, and the advantages of knowledge we also want. But those two gains are opposite. If one happens, the other will drown; if the other happens, the first will drown. They cannot be together.
We are trying to walk east and west at the same time; therefore we go nowhere. We are stuck in the middle. One leg has gone east, the other west. We are caught in between and suffering. And we neither pull one leg back from the east nor the other from the west. And our intention is that, by riding in both boats, we will reach both shores.
We will drown badly. A man riding two boats will drown—and his drowning will be very hellish. Yet you do not see how you are astride two boats: on the one hand the race for wealth, on the other the search for peace.
It would be like little children tormenting a frog, throwing stones. They are playing their game and the frog’s life is at stake. You are suffering for no reason, imagining some God above is playing a game with you! He would have been bored by now—so much play has happened and nothing essential seems to come out of it.
No: the very notion is wrong that a God is sitting above making you play. You—the divine—are playing the play. This is your own fun, your own delight. Understand this rightly and let it sink deep. It is your own decision that you want to remain ignorant. I say this carefully—I say it emphatically—because it has consequences.
If it is someone else’s decision that you are ignorant, then by your own decision you will never become wise. If some God is keeping you ignorant, then only by his will would you become wise. If some net is trapping you from outside, then you are helpless—what could you do?
It is your own decision that you are playing this game.
Have you seen small children play? They play hide-and-seek. The child closes his own eyes and stands, so that others may hide and then he can search for them.
You yourself are hiding from yourself and searching. This is your delight. And the day you are bored with it, ending the game is in your hands. As long as you say, “I do want to end it, but it doesn’t end,” know that you are being dishonest.
It has never happened that someone truly wanted to end it and the game continued. For the one who wants to finish, it ends that very moment—because your decision is the very basis of the game.
But your trick is that you want to keep playing and also enjoy the thrill of ending. The joy of playing and the joy of finishing. The pleasures of the world and the bliss of the divine. The wealth of the world and the happiness of nirvana—you want everything together. That is why you are in confusion.
If you truly understand that this life is suffering, pain, affliction, a hell, you will inevitably begin to turn within. No one will be able to stop you.
Buddha left home. His charioteer went to see him off. The charioteer was very sad: “How foolish even Buddha is! What a foolish son King Shuddhodana has! People strive for lifetimes before they get a life in such an emperor’s house. Such beautiful palaces, such a beautiful wife, all that luxury and splendor—and this foolish boy is running away!”
Finally, when Buddha was about to dismount and said, “Now take the chariot back,” that old charioteer said, “Granted you are the master and I the servant, but this moment is such that, even if it be a little impolite, I must say something. What are you doing? Leaving the palaces? The whole world is moving toward palaces. Everyone’s aspiration is to reach the palace—and you are leaving it? What folly is this? Pay heed to an old man’s words!”
Buddha said, “Where you see palaces, I see nothing but flames. Those to whom palaces are visible are moving in that direction. Living in the palaces I see the flames, so I am stepping aside from that direction. If they were truly palaces, I too would have stayed—but there are no palaces there.”
The old charioteer, Channa, began to weep; tears streamed from his eyes. He said, “What are you saying? I cannot understand. Have you fallen into some mistake? Are you in some delusion?”
Buddha said, “Those who are moving toward the palaces are in delusion. I have set out to seek that life in which there are no flames. I am going in search of that cool life where there is no blaze.”
But we too want such a cool life. People come to me and say, “Let the mind be quiet!” Yet all their desires are of restlessness. The very desires they wish to fulfill are of unrest—and they also want peace! And the desires they nurture are precisely those that create unrest. Their mindset is such that they want, if they could get peace, to use that peace to fulfill all their mental cravings.
This is a contradiction. It cannot be.
A young man came to me, preparing for a major university examination. He said, “My mind is very disturbed; that is why I have come to you. I have no need of religion or knowledge. Right now there is an exam; my life is at stake. I must come first—first in the first division. Please give me some trick so that my mind becomes peaceful.”
I asked, “Why do you want peace?” He said, “For this very reason. If I become calm, I can manage to come first. In unrest it won’t be possible.”
His argument is logical: with such an agitated mind, how can he work hard enough to come first? The agitation itself is eating up his energy, so he seeks peace. But he does not see why he is restless. He is restless precisely because he wants to come first. That ambition is what is bringing the unrest.
Here is the mischief: he wants peace so that ambition can be fulfilled, and it is that very ambition which produces unrest. Otherwise there is no cause for unrest.
What is to be done for such a youth? No method for peace will work, because the seeds of unrest lie deep within; from them the unrest is arising.
I said to him, “Forget about peace. First tell me why there is unrest. If the cause of unrest is removed, you will be peaceful.”
He said, “I can see that too. I understand that the cause of unrest is precisely that I want to come first. The disturbance in my mind is: what if I don’t come first? That is what torments me. If I drop this craving to be first, there will be no other cause for unrest.”
Then I said, “Decide clearly. If you want ambition, you must have the courage to be restless. I am not telling you to drop ambition—then accept unrest; it is part of it. And if you want peace, drop ambition; have that courage. That is the unavoidable part of peace.”
Our dilemma is that we want what is available in both the world and the divine—we want both. The advantages of ignorance we want, and the advantages of knowledge we also want. But those two gains are opposite. If one happens, the other will drown; if the other happens, the first will drown. They cannot be together.
We are trying to walk east and west at the same time; therefore we go nowhere. We are stuck in the middle. One leg has gone east, the other west. We are caught in between and suffering. And we neither pull one leg back from the east nor the other from the west. And our intention is that, by riding in both boats, we will reach both shores.
We will drown badly. A man riding two boats will drown—and his drowning will be very hellish. Yet you do not see how you are astride two boats: on the one hand the race for wealth, on the other the search for peace.
A friend has asked: Osho, you say, “drop your grip on money.” If we loosen our grip on money, then what will happen? If we let go of our hold on money, how will one manage in the world?
I said: drop your grip on money. They say, “How will we manage without money?” I never said, “Manage without money.”
The need for money is one thing; the grip on money is another. Needs can be fulfilled; the grip is never fulfilled. The more you clutch at money, the stronger the clutch becomes. Needs can be met. Every need can be fulfilled; no madness can ever be fulfilled.
America’s billionaire Andrew Carnegie died with ten billion rupees. Even at the time of death he said, “I am dying dissatisfied, because I had intended to leave a hundred billion.” Only ten billion! As if ten new paise—so only ten billion!
Even with ten billion rupees, the grip is not satisfied. What will Andrew Carnegie do with ten billion rupees? There is no use for it. The time for use ended long ago. Whatever money could give has already been had. Now nothing more can be gotten from ten billion. Yet the race has not ended; the grip has not ended.
The need for money is one thing; the grip on money is another. The grip on money is madness.
And I don’t say to everyone, “Drop your grip on money.” I say it only when you say, “We want peace, bliss, God.” Only then I say it. Otherwise I don’t. Then I say: hold it tight—enjoy it. Who is snatching it from you! And if you want suffering, who am I to say, “Don’t want suffering”? Want it merrily. Do what you prefer. But then don’t ask the other thing as well.
We are very upside down. This confusion is our complexity; hence the path gets all mixed up.
If you find bliss in money, then by all means keep clutching it. If you find sorrow, then drop the grip. And don’t try to do both together—holding money in one hand and God in the other. You won’t be able to do both, because no one ever has.
This does not mean you should abandon home and run away. Money is needed. But there is a delightful fact: even needs are best met by the person who has no grip on money. Otherwise, look at hundreds of rich men—you will struggle to find anyone poorer than them. Their grip is such that they cannot even spend. They cannot even make use of money. Don’t you see misers?
I know a miser. He was ill; he lived opposite my house; a retired doctor. He was alone—no wife, no child. He had never married. A miser should not marry! It’s an expensive affair. Women are spendthrifts. He told me he never married for that very reason.
He had rental income; two large bungalows. He had retired from the military as a doctor, so he had saved quite a lot.
One day his neighbor came to me and said, “Doctor is very ill, please come.” I went; his jaw was locked. He was unconscious. I asked, “What’s wrong? Shall I call a doctor?”
Do you know what that dying doctor signaled to me? With his hand he indicated, “Money? I don’t have money. Who will pay?” His mouth was shut, eyes open, and with his hand he gestured, “Who will pay?” I said, “We’ll arrange the money. Don’t worry.”
I called a doctor. The doctor said he must be taken to the hospital immediately; this won’t be managed at home. Then that dying doctor said to me, “First lock the house and give me the key.” Only after the key was given did he get into the ambulance.
We took him to the hospital. Two hours later he died. After his death, five thousand rupees were found inside his kurta. He had kept them on his person. And to pay even the doctor’s five-rupee fee he…
This is what I call a grip. Often rich men die poor. To be truly rich is a little difficult. It concerns money less. When there is no grip on money, a person is rich.
There are two kinds of poor in the world: those who don’t have money, and those who have a grip on money. These are the two kinds of poor. A truly rich person is very rare.
You can use money only when there is no grip.
So I do not say: do not use money. I say: do not keep a grip. Let money be a means; do not let it become the end. And do not become the servant of money—guarding it, standing watch over it, hoarding it, and dying. And you are dying—what else are you doing?
But keep one thing in mind: whichever direction you choose, accept that direction’s hardships along with its joys. Every direction has its pains; every direction has its delights. You will have to accept both. If you want to save one and discard the other, you have not understood the science of life.
The need for money is one thing; the grip on money is another. Needs can be fulfilled; the grip is never fulfilled. The more you clutch at money, the stronger the clutch becomes. Needs can be met. Every need can be fulfilled; no madness can ever be fulfilled.
America’s billionaire Andrew Carnegie died with ten billion rupees. Even at the time of death he said, “I am dying dissatisfied, because I had intended to leave a hundred billion.” Only ten billion! As if ten new paise—so only ten billion!
Even with ten billion rupees, the grip is not satisfied. What will Andrew Carnegie do with ten billion rupees? There is no use for it. The time for use ended long ago. Whatever money could give has already been had. Now nothing more can be gotten from ten billion. Yet the race has not ended; the grip has not ended.
The need for money is one thing; the grip on money is another. The grip on money is madness.
And I don’t say to everyone, “Drop your grip on money.” I say it only when you say, “We want peace, bliss, God.” Only then I say it. Otherwise I don’t. Then I say: hold it tight—enjoy it. Who is snatching it from you! And if you want suffering, who am I to say, “Don’t want suffering”? Want it merrily. Do what you prefer. But then don’t ask the other thing as well.
We are very upside down. This confusion is our complexity; hence the path gets all mixed up.
If you find bliss in money, then by all means keep clutching it. If you find sorrow, then drop the grip. And don’t try to do both together—holding money in one hand and God in the other. You won’t be able to do both, because no one ever has.
This does not mean you should abandon home and run away. Money is needed. But there is a delightful fact: even needs are best met by the person who has no grip on money. Otherwise, look at hundreds of rich men—you will struggle to find anyone poorer than them. Their grip is such that they cannot even spend. They cannot even make use of money. Don’t you see misers?
I know a miser. He was ill; he lived opposite my house; a retired doctor. He was alone—no wife, no child. He had never married. A miser should not marry! It’s an expensive affair. Women are spendthrifts. He told me he never married for that very reason.
He had rental income; two large bungalows. He had retired from the military as a doctor, so he had saved quite a lot.
One day his neighbor came to me and said, “Doctor is very ill, please come.” I went; his jaw was locked. He was unconscious. I asked, “What’s wrong? Shall I call a doctor?”
Do you know what that dying doctor signaled to me? With his hand he indicated, “Money? I don’t have money. Who will pay?” His mouth was shut, eyes open, and with his hand he gestured, “Who will pay?” I said, “We’ll arrange the money. Don’t worry.”
I called a doctor. The doctor said he must be taken to the hospital immediately; this won’t be managed at home. Then that dying doctor said to me, “First lock the house and give me the key.” Only after the key was given did he get into the ambulance.
We took him to the hospital. Two hours later he died. After his death, five thousand rupees were found inside his kurta. He had kept them on his person. And to pay even the doctor’s five-rupee fee he…
This is what I call a grip. Often rich men die poor. To be truly rich is a little difficult. It concerns money less. When there is no grip on money, a person is rich.
There are two kinds of poor in the world: those who don’t have money, and those who have a grip on money. These are the two kinds of poor. A truly rich person is very rare.
You can use money only when there is no grip.
So I do not say: do not use money. I say: do not keep a grip. Let money be a means; do not let it become the end. And do not become the servant of money—guarding it, standing watch over it, hoarding it, and dying. And you are dying—what else are you doing?
But keep one thing in mind: whichever direction you choose, accept that direction’s hardships along with its joys. Every direction has its pains; every direction has its delights. You will have to accept both. If you want to save one and discard the other, you have not understood the science of life.
Another friend has asked: If one has to drop all desires, then what is the goal of life?
Perhaps he thinks that fulfilling desires is the goal of life! Desires are never fulfilled. No desire is ever fulfilled. One desire seems to be fulfilled, and it gives birth to ten more. No one has ever been able to say that a desire was fulfilled. Even before one is fulfilled, a new progeny appears and the chain starts again.
The goal of life is not the fulfillment of desires. The goal of life is to attain desirelessness from amidst desires. The goal of life is to pass through desires and rise beyond them. For the moment one rises beyond all desires, one comes to know that life’s supreme blessedness was not in desires. Desires created tension, a pull and strain. Because of desires the mind would run, tire, fall, become distressed.
With desirelessness, your very life-energy meets existence. There is no race left, no running about. As when a lake becomes still and there are no waves; then, in that tranquil lake, the reflection of the moon appears. In the same way, when there is no ripple of desire and the heart becomes a still lake, the ultimate mystery of life begins to be reflected. You become a mirror, and the mystery of life opens before you.
To attain desirelessness through the medium of desires—that is the goal of life.
But since I am saying “through desires,” do not be in a hurry. Maturity is essential. Let desires ripen. Pass through them wholeheartedly, so that their secret becomes clear to you; so that their futility becomes clear; so that their stupidity becomes clear.
A great difficulty has arisen: we have all become half-baked. The reason is that before we have our own experience of anything, other people’s experiences and words have already been memorized by us.
We have heard that we must be free of desires. We have even accepted that we must be free of desires. Yet we have not experienced the pain of desires.
So we cannot enter desires fully, because this teaching tugs from behind: Where are you going—into sin! One must avoid desires. And this teaching is not effective either, because the experience of avoiding desires has not yet arisen in us. Buddha may have had it. Mahavira may have had it. We have not. What use are their experiences to us?
I must experience that fire burns. You say, fire burns. I have no experience. So my hand is drawn toward the fire, because it looks to me as if lovely flowers are blooming in it: let me pluck them, lock them in my chest. They look so appealing. I have only seen them from afar.
But as I begin to reach out my hand, your teaching is remembered: don’t put out your hand; you will be burnt. Fire burns. This teaching doesn’t even let my hand reach the point where I would actually be burnt. And it does not become my experience either. Therefore the hand keeps stretching out and yet never reaches the fire. It stretches out, and yet it does not reach. Thus we hang in the middle. All your borrowed experiences become false.
People come to me and say, “We know anger is bad, yet anger happens.”
This cannot be. If you truly knew anger is bad, anger could not happen. You do not know. You have only heard. People say, “Anger is bad.” You have heard their saying. Their saying is not your knowing.
You yourself will have to know.
So I say: be angry properly, so that you get burnt. And once you have truly burnt yourself, your hand will not go that way again.
But you don’t even get angry properly. And the one who has not been properly angry cannot be properly peaceful. In his peace, too, the craving for anger will remain hidden.
People preach celibacy, and your mind is drawn toward sexuality. And when you start to move toward sexuality, all the teachings of the celibates come to mind. Then you feel, “What sin am I committing?” Because of this feeling you cannot even sin properly. The experience of sin does not happen. Everything remains half-baked.
You go into sin, yet you cannot do it; something keeps pulling you back. Nor can you pull back completely, because until there is a mature experience of sin, you cannot retreat. Apart from self-experience there is no revolution in life.
Those who have known celibacy must have spoken rightly. And the day you know, you too will say that celibacy is nectar. And you too will tell people, “What are you getting entangled in!”
Naturally, when a father sees his son going toward the fire, he says, “Stop! Don’t touch the fire; you’ll be burnt.” He speaks rightly. He is not wrong. But let the son have the experience. If the father is wise, he will take the boy near the fire and say, “Extend your hand a little; put it into the flame.” Then the son will need no scripture. He himself will jump back and say, “What are you doing? You burned my hand!” Now this boy will never go near fire.
A clever father does not hand over his knowledge; on the basis of his knowledge he gives the son the chance to experience. Understand this well. There is a difference.
A true master does not give you borrowed knowledge. He arranges the opportunity for experience—only arranges the facility. The knowing will have to be your own. He simply creates the situation in which you can experience.
People used to go to Gurdjieff—the West’s very precious master—and he would say, “For now, stop worrying about peace; first, be properly angry. Half-done anger will never let you be peaceful.” He would say, “For three months, practice anger. In this period, whatever chance you get, don’t miss it. Be on the lookout for chances. Kindle as much anger as you can, throw out as much fire as you can, spit out as much poison as you can.”
Even three months would be too much. In three weeks the seeker would come and say, “I am utterly exhausted. What foolishness are you making me do!”
Because if you get angry consciously, you will very quickly begin to see that it is stupidity. But Gurdjieff would say, “Not yet; you are still unripe. It has only been three weeks. People have been angry for lifetimes and have still not ripened. Wait a little. Let it run for three months.” And he would keep pushing. Gradually the seeker would find he no longer even gets the opportunity.
If you actively look for chances for a month, opportunities will become hard to find—where now to get angry? And when you are doing it deliberately, you yourself feel, “Again I am going to perform this stupidity! There is nothing in it except sorrow, pain, trouble. Poison spreads. I am harmed; no one else gains anything.”
Then Gurdjieff would make arrangements. He would tell someone, “Thoroughly insult this man—at such a moment, in such a way, that he forgets himself and falls into anger.” He would devise such devices, such contrivances, to get people provoked.
If even then the man would not be disturbed—two months have passed and the devices no longer work—Gurdjieff would give him alcohol: perhaps under intoxication something repressed might come out. He would pour wine, keep pouring till midnight, and then stir up a commotion.
Until by every means he had made him experience anger completely, he would not give the method of peace. And then the method of peace is very simple. For the one whose frenzy of anger has fallen away, nothing needs to be done to be peaceful—he simply becomes peaceful.
Do not avoid the experiences of life; enter them. And do not hurry either; there is no hurry at all. Life has plenty of time.
There is only one danger with time: half-baked experiences will take you nowhere. If liberation is desired, a mature experience of the world is necessary. And the Divine does not like haste at all. Half-ripe fruits are not accepted in His kingdom. There, the fruit must be fully ripe.
The last question.
The goal of life is not the fulfillment of desires. The goal of life is to attain desirelessness from amidst desires. The goal of life is to pass through desires and rise beyond them. For the moment one rises beyond all desires, one comes to know that life’s supreme blessedness was not in desires. Desires created tension, a pull and strain. Because of desires the mind would run, tire, fall, become distressed.
With desirelessness, your very life-energy meets existence. There is no race left, no running about. As when a lake becomes still and there are no waves; then, in that tranquil lake, the reflection of the moon appears. In the same way, when there is no ripple of desire and the heart becomes a still lake, the ultimate mystery of life begins to be reflected. You become a mirror, and the mystery of life opens before you.
To attain desirelessness through the medium of desires—that is the goal of life.
But since I am saying “through desires,” do not be in a hurry. Maturity is essential. Let desires ripen. Pass through them wholeheartedly, so that their secret becomes clear to you; so that their futility becomes clear; so that their stupidity becomes clear.
A great difficulty has arisen: we have all become half-baked. The reason is that before we have our own experience of anything, other people’s experiences and words have already been memorized by us.
We have heard that we must be free of desires. We have even accepted that we must be free of desires. Yet we have not experienced the pain of desires.
So we cannot enter desires fully, because this teaching tugs from behind: Where are you going—into sin! One must avoid desires. And this teaching is not effective either, because the experience of avoiding desires has not yet arisen in us. Buddha may have had it. Mahavira may have had it. We have not. What use are their experiences to us?
I must experience that fire burns. You say, fire burns. I have no experience. So my hand is drawn toward the fire, because it looks to me as if lovely flowers are blooming in it: let me pluck them, lock them in my chest. They look so appealing. I have only seen them from afar.
But as I begin to reach out my hand, your teaching is remembered: don’t put out your hand; you will be burnt. Fire burns. This teaching doesn’t even let my hand reach the point where I would actually be burnt. And it does not become my experience either. Therefore the hand keeps stretching out and yet never reaches the fire. It stretches out, and yet it does not reach. Thus we hang in the middle. All your borrowed experiences become false.
People come to me and say, “We know anger is bad, yet anger happens.”
This cannot be. If you truly knew anger is bad, anger could not happen. You do not know. You have only heard. People say, “Anger is bad.” You have heard their saying. Their saying is not your knowing.
You yourself will have to know.
So I say: be angry properly, so that you get burnt. And once you have truly burnt yourself, your hand will not go that way again.
But you don’t even get angry properly. And the one who has not been properly angry cannot be properly peaceful. In his peace, too, the craving for anger will remain hidden.
People preach celibacy, and your mind is drawn toward sexuality. And when you start to move toward sexuality, all the teachings of the celibates come to mind. Then you feel, “What sin am I committing?” Because of this feeling you cannot even sin properly. The experience of sin does not happen. Everything remains half-baked.
You go into sin, yet you cannot do it; something keeps pulling you back. Nor can you pull back completely, because until there is a mature experience of sin, you cannot retreat. Apart from self-experience there is no revolution in life.
Those who have known celibacy must have spoken rightly. And the day you know, you too will say that celibacy is nectar. And you too will tell people, “What are you getting entangled in!”
Naturally, when a father sees his son going toward the fire, he says, “Stop! Don’t touch the fire; you’ll be burnt.” He speaks rightly. He is not wrong. But let the son have the experience. If the father is wise, he will take the boy near the fire and say, “Extend your hand a little; put it into the flame.” Then the son will need no scripture. He himself will jump back and say, “What are you doing? You burned my hand!” Now this boy will never go near fire.
A clever father does not hand over his knowledge; on the basis of his knowledge he gives the son the chance to experience. Understand this well. There is a difference.
A true master does not give you borrowed knowledge. He arranges the opportunity for experience—only arranges the facility. The knowing will have to be your own. He simply creates the situation in which you can experience.
People used to go to Gurdjieff—the West’s very precious master—and he would say, “For now, stop worrying about peace; first, be properly angry. Half-done anger will never let you be peaceful.” He would say, “For three months, practice anger. In this period, whatever chance you get, don’t miss it. Be on the lookout for chances. Kindle as much anger as you can, throw out as much fire as you can, spit out as much poison as you can.”
Even three months would be too much. In three weeks the seeker would come and say, “I am utterly exhausted. What foolishness are you making me do!”
Because if you get angry consciously, you will very quickly begin to see that it is stupidity. But Gurdjieff would say, “Not yet; you are still unripe. It has only been three weeks. People have been angry for lifetimes and have still not ripened. Wait a little. Let it run for three months.” And he would keep pushing. Gradually the seeker would find he no longer even gets the opportunity.
If you actively look for chances for a month, opportunities will become hard to find—where now to get angry? And when you are doing it deliberately, you yourself feel, “Again I am going to perform this stupidity! There is nothing in it except sorrow, pain, trouble. Poison spreads. I am harmed; no one else gains anything.”
Then Gurdjieff would make arrangements. He would tell someone, “Thoroughly insult this man—at such a moment, in such a way, that he forgets himself and falls into anger.” He would devise such devices, such contrivances, to get people provoked.
If even then the man would not be disturbed—two months have passed and the devices no longer work—Gurdjieff would give him alcohol: perhaps under intoxication something repressed might come out. He would pour wine, keep pouring till midnight, and then stir up a commotion.
Until by every means he had made him experience anger completely, he would not give the method of peace. And then the method of peace is very simple. For the one whose frenzy of anger has fallen away, nothing needs to be done to be peaceful—he simply becomes peaceful.
Do not avoid the experiences of life; enter them. And do not hurry either; there is no hurry at all. Life has plenty of time.
There is only one danger with time: half-baked experiences will take you nowhere. If liberation is desired, a mature experience of the world is necessary. And the Divine does not like haste at all. Half-ripe fruits are not accepted in His kingdom. There, the fruit must be fully ripe.
The last question.
A friend has asked, Osho, you say that if someone surrenders himself in every way to the divine—lets himself be absorbed, accepts it—then he attains the divine. Can worldly things also be obtained in the same way?
Don’t try that; you’ll get nothing!
To get worldly things you have to employ means, you have to labor, you have to strive, you have to be restless, you have to be mad. The more mad a person is, the more successful he is in the world.
A very eminent psychologist has just made a statement. He said that if the minds of the world’s great politicians were tested, they would be found deranged, because their success would be impossible if they were not utterly mad.
That psychologist said that the reason for England’s great politician Winston Churchill’s success was that, in childhood, an astrologer told him—and then he got fixated on the notion—that he would not live beyond forty-five. From the day this idea took hold—“I will die at forty-five”—he plunged into competition like a madman. Others, who assumed they would live at least to seventy or eighty, were moving along slowly. Churchill was short by thirty years; he had to move fast. He began to run like a complete madman.
The psychologist said that the sole reason for Churchill’s success was this idea: “I have thirty years less.” Therefore he must throw in his total energy and go mad.
Now the studies being published on the minds of Hitler, Churchill, Stalin show that they were all deranged. But it’s not only that they were deranged; for any politician to succeed in the world, it is necessary to be deranged. Deranged means: they must be insanely driven by what they are doing. There is no need for understanding there. What is needed is a blind race.
Those who accumulate a great deal of wealth also need to be mad. There, relaxation won’t do.
To get worldly things you have to employ means, you have to labor, you have to strive, you have to be restless, you have to be mad. The more mad a person is, the more successful he is in the world.
A very eminent psychologist has just made a statement. He said that if the minds of the world’s great politicians were tested, they would be found deranged, because their success would be impossible if they were not utterly mad.
That psychologist said that the reason for England’s great politician Winston Churchill’s success was that, in childhood, an astrologer told him—and then he got fixated on the notion—that he would not live beyond forty-five. From the day this idea took hold—“I will die at forty-five”—he plunged into competition like a madman. Others, who assumed they would live at least to seventy or eighty, were moving along slowly. Churchill was short by thirty years; he had to move fast. He began to run like a complete madman.
The psychologist said that the sole reason for Churchill’s success was this idea: “I have thirty years less.” Therefore he must throw in his total energy and go mad.
Now the studies being published on the minds of Hitler, Churchill, Stalin show that they were all deranged. But it’s not only that they were deranged; for any politician to succeed in the world, it is necessary to be deranged. Deranged means: they must be insanely driven by what they are doing. There is no need for understanding there. What is needed is a blind race.
Those who accumulate a great deal of wealth also need to be mad. There, relaxation won’t do.
A friend has asked: Will attainment be possible through peace?
If the world could be attained through peace, then no one would ever be restless. This whole world is restless precisely because every worldly attainment comes through restlessness. Restlessness is the price—if you want to attain the world.
That’s why I call a man “wise” who, if he wants the world, prepares himself to be restless. Then he won’t say, “I want peace.”
I have a friend. Sometimes he becomes a minister; sometimes he loses the post. When he’s out, he comes to me. Saints only get to meet ex-ministers; those in office have no time. And in this country there’s no shortage of ex-ministers.
Whenever he’s out, he comes and asks, “Is there some way to find peace?” I tell him, “But why do you need peace? If you become peaceful, you won’t be able to become a minister again!”
He says, “No, tell me something so that I become peaceful—and right now I’m trying to become the chief minister. I don’t want restlessness; I want the chief ministership.”
So I tell him, “Please go to someone who can deceive you. I cannot. If you want to be chief minister, then be skillfully restless, and accept restlessness—it’s part of the bargain. When you walk the road, dust will rise; it’s necessary dust. If you’re aiming to be chief minister, be a bit more restless—so far you’ve only been a minister.”
In the world, whatever you want to get, you’ll have to pay the price. You’ll have to sell yourself—dissolve yourself. Not a single coin comes free. You lose just that much of your soul to get it. Not a single success comes free—an equal portion of your being is destroyed in the gaining.
That’s why those who become very successful in the outer world become utterly empty within. Inside, nothing remains. Someone like Hitler has nothing left that can be called a soul—it cannot remain. If you want to save your soul, you can’t do what Hitler did.
Pile up a mountain of wealth, and inner poverty becomes necessary. Inner impoverishment is the cost.
In the world there is toil, not rest. In the world there is turbulence, not peace. In the world there is human effort, not luck.
But the way to attain the divine is exactly the opposite—and it must be, because the divine is in the opposite direction. In the world you move outward; toward the divine you move inward. Everything reverses.
So the very things that bring success in the world bring failure with the divine—take this as exact mathematics. And the very things that help with the divine bring failure in the world. You cannot be successful in both at once. You can’t; and you shouldn’t.
If you are becoming restless to attain God, you will not find God. You are treating God as another worldly object. Hence the wise say: if you want to find him, even effort has to be dropped. If you want to find him, even the desire to find him must be dropped. If you want to find him, you must even forget him—otherwise the nagging itch “not yet, not yet” will keep you uneasy.
A young man came to Buddha—Sariputta, who later became a great knower. The day he came he said to Buddha, “I want to become like you.” Buddha said, “Drop that idea—then it may be possible. If you cling to it, you’re in trouble. When I became what I am, I had no such idea—that’s why it happened. You drop the idea that you must become like me.”
Sariputta labored for years, but the idea wouldn’t leave him. One day Buddha called him and said, “Sariputta, you’re doing everything, but one thing is blocking you—the craving to be like me. That very craving won’t let you be like me. Drop it.”
And the day Sariputta dropped even that craving, that very day he became like Buddha.
So to attain the divine, the wise say, even effort must go. In the beginning one has to make effort—our habits are poor; without effort we understand nothing. But even that must be dropped. The goal too must be dropped. If he is not found, be exactly as content as if he were found. One has to drop even the ambition: “I will discover God.”
And the day there is no ambition, no effort, and the mind is utterly quiet and relaxed—when there is no ambition, how can there be restlessness? There’s no tension, no race. Nowhere to reach—such acceptance is rest. In such acceptance, he becomes available.
To attain the world—run, run hard, run like a madman, run intoxicated. To attain the divine—don’t run at all. Drop every intoxication, every ambition.
If you want the world, then swim like someone going against the current. You’ll need great force. Even then there’s no guarantee you’ll reach, because you’re not swimming alone. Others are swimming too. And they’re not just swimming; they’re also blocking you so you don’t reach—and working so they themselves do.
You are not alone in the world. There’s a vast uproar around you. If there are three-and-a-half or four billion people, then each person has four billion working against him. Reaching here is not easy. Perhaps only the utterly mad, the obstinate, the headstrong—who neither hear nor see and dash on like the blind—perhaps they might reach.
But if you want to go to the divine, it’s not like swimming, it’s like floating. You let yourself go in the stream. You don’t even paddle; the river carries you. Breath by breath you become quiet—because you have nothing to do. The river does everything; you’ve surrendered yourself.
The divine is attained by floating. The world is attained by swimming.
That’s why I call a man “wise” who, if he wants the world, prepares himself to be restless. Then he won’t say, “I want peace.”
I have a friend. Sometimes he becomes a minister; sometimes he loses the post. When he’s out, he comes to me. Saints only get to meet ex-ministers; those in office have no time. And in this country there’s no shortage of ex-ministers.
Whenever he’s out, he comes and asks, “Is there some way to find peace?” I tell him, “But why do you need peace? If you become peaceful, you won’t be able to become a minister again!”
He says, “No, tell me something so that I become peaceful—and right now I’m trying to become the chief minister. I don’t want restlessness; I want the chief ministership.”
So I tell him, “Please go to someone who can deceive you. I cannot. If you want to be chief minister, then be skillfully restless, and accept restlessness—it’s part of the bargain. When you walk the road, dust will rise; it’s necessary dust. If you’re aiming to be chief minister, be a bit more restless—so far you’ve only been a minister.”
In the world, whatever you want to get, you’ll have to pay the price. You’ll have to sell yourself—dissolve yourself. Not a single coin comes free. You lose just that much of your soul to get it. Not a single success comes free—an equal portion of your being is destroyed in the gaining.
That’s why those who become very successful in the outer world become utterly empty within. Inside, nothing remains. Someone like Hitler has nothing left that can be called a soul—it cannot remain. If you want to save your soul, you can’t do what Hitler did.
Pile up a mountain of wealth, and inner poverty becomes necessary. Inner impoverishment is the cost.
In the world there is toil, not rest. In the world there is turbulence, not peace. In the world there is human effort, not luck.
But the way to attain the divine is exactly the opposite—and it must be, because the divine is in the opposite direction. In the world you move outward; toward the divine you move inward. Everything reverses.
So the very things that bring success in the world bring failure with the divine—take this as exact mathematics. And the very things that help with the divine bring failure in the world. You cannot be successful in both at once. You can’t; and you shouldn’t.
If you are becoming restless to attain God, you will not find God. You are treating God as another worldly object. Hence the wise say: if you want to find him, even effort has to be dropped. If you want to find him, even the desire to find him must be dropped. If you want to find him, you must even forget him—otherwise the nagging itch “not yet, not yet” will keep you uneasy.
A young man came to Buddha—Sariputta, who later became a great knower. The day he came he said to Buddha, “I want to become like you.” Buddha said, “Drop that idea—then it may be possible. If you cling to it, you’re in trouble. When I became what I am, I had no such idea—that’s why it happened. You drop the idea that you must become like me.”
Sariputta labored for years, but the idea wouldn’t leave him. One day Buddha called him and said, “Sariputta, you’re doing everything, but one thing is blocking you—the craving to be like me. That very craving won’t let you be like me. Drop it.”
And the day Sariputta dropped even that craving, that very day he became like Buddha.
So to attain the divine, the wise say, even effort must go. In the beginning one has to make effort—our habits are poor; without effort we understand nothing. But even that must be dropped. The goal too must be dropped. If he is not found, be exactly as content as if he were found. One has to drop even the ambition: “I will discover God.”
And the day there is no ambition, no effort, and the mind is utterly quiet and relaxed—when there is no ambition, how can there be restlessness? There’s no tension, no race. Nowhere to reach—such acceptance is rest. In such acceptance, he becomes available.
To attain the world—run, run hard, run like a madman, run intoxicated. To attain the divine—don’t run at all. Drop every intoxication, every ambition.
If you want the world, then swim like someone going against the current. You’ll need great force. Even then there’s no guarantee you’ll reach, because you’re not swimming alone. Others are swimming too. And they’re not just swimming; they’re also blocking you so you don’t reach—and working so they themselves do.
You are not alone in the world. There’s a vast uproar around you. If there are three-and-a-half or four billion people, then each person has four billion working against him. Reaching here is not easy. Perhaps only the utterly mad, the obstinate, the headstrong—who neither hear nor see and dash on like the blind—perhaps they might reach.
But if you want to go to the divine, it’s not like swimming, it’s like floating. You let yourself go in the stream. You don’t even paddle; the river carries you. Breath by breath you become quiet—because you have nothing to do. The river does everything; you’ve surrendered yourself.
The divine is attained by floating. The world is attained by swimming.
Osho's Commentary
“He by whom no being is agitated, and who himself is not agitated by any being, who is free from delight and resentment, fear and agitation—such a devotee is dear to me. And the man who is free of craving, pure within and without, skillful—who has fulfilled what he came for—impartial, released from sorrow, and a renouncer of all undertakings—such a devotee is dear to me.”
Krishna gives further marks of the one who is dear to the divine—meaning, one who is drawing near, becoming intimate. These qualities bring you close; they orient you toward the divine.
“He by whom no being is agitated...”
This is a bit subtle. One by whom no disturbance is created in anyone. But it needs understanding—because you’ll find people saying, “We are disturbed by Krishna.” Others will say, “We feel disturbed by Buddha.”
And there were such people. They wanted to kill Buddha. Whoever wants to kill Buddha is certainly disturbed. Those who crucified Jesus were disturbed. Then what—was Jesus not dear to God? Even Krishna would be in trouble, because people were disturbed by him too; they tried their best to destroy him.
But the sutra says, “He by whom no being is agitated.” Understand its meaning.
It’s not necessary that you won’t be agitated around Buddha. It need not be because of Buddha; it can be because of you. The only condition is: Buddha, from his side, does not agitate you. But you may still be agitated. If you are agitated from your side, Buddha bears no responsibility. Buddha neither tries to agitate you nor has any taste for it—he does not become the cause from his side.
You must be careful not to become the cause of anyone’s agitation. Still, someone may be agitated—because in agitation you are not the only participant; the one who gets agitated participates equally.
An acquaintance of mine was always troubled by his son. I told the son, “Do as your father wishes. He doesn’t want anything special—do it; you won’t lose anything. He’ll find some peace.”
The boy said, “You don’t know. It makes no difference what I do. If I do exactly what he says, he still gets agitated.
“For example, if I wear very clean clothes, which I like, he will say in front of people, ‘Look at him! I broke my bones to earn money; he’s a prince—living off it. Enjoy, enjoy! The day I die, you’ll starve.’
“And if I don’t wear clean clothes, he still stands up before people and says, ‘Oh! So am I already dead? Dress like this after I’m gone. For now, enjoy—this state will come soon enough. But don’t go around with that face in front of me.’
“The trouble,” the boy said, “is that even if I obey, it doesn’t reduce his agitation.”
Meaning, if someone wants to be agitated, he will find any excuse. Notice this in yourself: when you get upset, it is not necessary that the other has provided the cause; you may be doing it to yourself.
I’ve heard: A friend told Mulla Nasruddin, “I’m in real trouble—I’ve got such a wife that if I utter a single word, I’m trapped; she spins out endless talk from that one word!”
Nasruddin said, “That’s nothing. Mine is a self-starter. You at least have to speak a word. My wife—no need to say anything; she starts on her own. Keeping quiet is dangerous too: ‘Why are you silent? There must be some meaning!’”
Understand—it’s not necessary the other is providing the cause. Ninety-nine out of a hundred times you are searching for a cause. There are reasons.
You’re at the office; the boss says something. You can’t show it there—it’s costly; your job could be at stake. You swallow it. But what you swallow—where will it go? It must come out somewhere.
You come home and unconsciously look for an opening: let the wife bring a burned chapati, or slightly cold tea. You don’t even know you’re looking; it’s not deliberate thinking; it’s unconscious. But a certain quota of anger is standing up within you, seeking a channel. It couldn’t flow toward the boss—that was uphill; it can flow toward the wife—that’s downhill.
You’re looking for someone to flow toward. You’ll find some pretext. Then the wife is startled—she served the same kind of roti yesterday and you weren’t angry. And she’s been serving that very tea all her life. Today! It’s beyond her understanding.
That’s why no one ever understands anyone’s anger—because anger is beyond understanding. It’s not necessary that the apparent cause is the cause. The causes may be elsewhere—God knows where. Thousands of other causes have been accumulating, and all erupt together.
She cannot understand. But husbands have taught wives for thousands of years that the husband is God. This is the husband’s self-protection. Having been beaten by the world, if he is not God at home, life is going to waste. He needs someplace to swagger and say, “I am God.” Many people strut on that.
So the wife becomes a release—a convenience. But women are raising a storm around the world now. They say, “We won’t accept this.” In this country it still goes on.
Then the wife too accumulates. She cannot show it to the husband; she looks for the son to return from school. He comes happy, playing—unaware of the eruption waiting at home.
The moment he enters, the mother pounces. Any excuse will do—unconscious excuses. “How did this cloth tear? How did your slate break? How did your book rip?”
The child cannot understand—these things break and tear daily. He feels injustice—yet where will he declare it? Where can he revolt? The only way: if the mother scolds or beats him, he tears the book more, breaks the slate further, or goes to his room and rips his doll apart.
What was born in the office—the doll gets caught in it. What did the doll have to do with what the boss said to you? But this is happening twenty-four hours a day.
So the sutra doesn’t mean that if you become peaceful, no one will be disturbed because of you. It means: don’t be the cause. Be aware that “I shall not become the cause.”
And something delightful happens: if you are not the cause, then when someone forcibly tries to make you the cause, you don’t get angry—because you know he’s just releasing. Understand the difference.
When you are not the cause of anyone’s agitation—consciously not the cause—and yet someone becomes agitated, you can laugh. And if you still feel anger, know that somewhere you were a cause. This is the only test.
If you come home and your wife lashes out, and truly you are not the cause even a little, you will be able to laugh. You won’t react; you won’t counter with a bigger eruption and start breaking things. If you do, then no matter how much you say, “I’m not the cause,” you are the cause.
If you are not the cause, you will remain outside and laugh: “How mad she is—out of her senses!” Compassion will arise, not anger. “Poor thing—some difficulty, someone troubled her, or the day’s silly chores—washing utensils, cooking—daily boredom has worn her out.” But you won’t get angry.
When the causes to agitate others are finished within you, you become free of reaction. That is the sign.
“He by whom no being is agitated, and who himself is not agitated by any being...”
The second happens only when the first has happened. If you don’t become a cause for anyone, then even if the other wants to make you a cause, he cannot. And if someone can still become a cause for you, know the first hasn’t happened yet. The second is its natural result.
When you are not the cause of anyone’s suffering, then even if someone wants to hurt you, he cannot.
When Jesus was hanging on the cross, he prayed to God, “Forgive them, for they know not what they do.” They are not in their senses; they are unconscious. Don’t consider them sinners—forgive them.
Only a man for whom even a crucifixion cannot produce anger can pray like this. When such a thing happens, you begin to draw close to the divine.
Krishna says, such a one is dear to me. “And who is free from delight and resentment, fear and agitation—such a devotee is dear to me.”
Free from delight and resentment, fear and agitation...
Let’s understand. It’s subtle.
When someone is unhappy, you become unhappy. Someone dies; you shed tears. Someone’s house burns; you go to console them. But have you ever asked whether this sorrow is true or false?
If it’s true, there is one test: when someone’s house expands, you should feel happy. Only then can you truly feel sorrow when it burns. When someone wins, you should feel delighted; only then can their loss cause you pain.
When a poor man becomes rich—do you feel joy? Or pain? If you feel pain, then the second thing is doubtful—that you feel sorrow when a rich man becomes poor. It cannot be. Life has its mathematics—clear, straight lines without error.
That’s why psychologists say: when you say you share in another’s sorrow, deep down you feel a little pleasure. It’s complex and seems paradoxical. We feel, “No, when someone’s house burns, we truly feel sad.”
But the psychologists say, deep down there’s a little joy: “My house didn’t burn—that’s one. His did. It had to—ill-gotten gains!” All this is inside. “He was strutting—now he’s on the ground. Justice may be delayed, but it isn’t denied.” This is running within. And on the surface you display sympathy. Even in that sympathy there’s a kind of pleasure: “Today he’s in a state where I can show sympathy.” God forbid that I’m ever in a state where someone has to show sympathy to me.
You know when someone comes to console you, you don’t like it. It pricks: “Well, it’s fate. Someday I’ll get a chance to come console you. This won’t always be our lot—everyone’s turn comes.”
If you don’t like being consoled, then surely the one consoling you is liking it. Because he’s liking it, you don’t like it. And because you don’t like it, he likes it more. It’s all connected.
You don’t rejoice in another’s joy. Your sorrow at another’s sorrow is also false—unless you can truly rejoice in another’s joy. And you can rejoice in another’s joy only when you have so dissolved that the “other” no longer feels other. Otherwise you cannot. As long as “I” am, how can I rejoice in another’s joy? He got it, I didn’t!
Even in politics, two candidates contest an election; the loser goes to congratulate the winner. How much meaning is there in that congratulations! How much pain behind the smile! But the rules of the game must be observed. On the surface order is maintained; underneath, poison flows; on the surface, smiles; underneath, knives.
As long as the other is other, you cannot sorrow in his sorrow, nor rejoice in his joy. And the other is no longer other only when—when you are no longer within; when that inner I-ness, ego, is gone.
But there’s a further subtlety. When the ego is gone, there is no happiness even in one’s own happiness, and no sorrow in one’s own sorrow. The egoless person goes beyond elation and depression—neither his own nor another’s.
You might ask, “But then why does someone like Buddha try to remove others’ suffering?”
In Japan there was a mendicant, Nan-in. Someone asked him, “Buddha has gone beyond all suffering—but is he still touched by others’ suffering?” It’s worth pondering. He is engaged in relieving others’ suffering, after all.
Nan-in said, “Another’s suffering doesn’t touch him. Another’s suffering appears as a dream—a nightmare.”
Like this: I wake up at night; my own dream is over. I am awake. I see you nearby, froth at your mouth, chest heaving, body trembling, tears flowing, as if someone is sitting on your chest tormenting you. I don’t suffer over it. I could even smile—because it’s a dream. But this is my knowing; for you, it’s reality—you are in real pain. I may try to wake you.
My trying to wake you doesn’t mean I’m suffering from your suffering. It only means I know you’re troubled unnecessarily—and your trouble is false. But it is true for you now—because you’re asleep. Once you wake, it will be false for you too.
So Buddha’s or Krishna’s effort is not to remove your suffering—you are not truly suffering. Their effort is to remove your dream of suffering.
You are dreaming a great misery—tossing, turning. Your condition does not make Buddha suffer. He only feels that you are needlessly in pain, and that you can come out of it. And he tells you the way he came out—so you too can.
“Free from delight and resentment, fear and agitation...”
One who now feels neither elation nor resentment; whom nothing frightens—not even death. For death too is a dream. No one ever dies; it only appears that we die. One whose inner state becomes such that death does not happen to me; death comes near and passes, and I remain untouched—that person is dear to me.
Mahavira called fearlessness the first mark—only the fearless can attain the soul.
Krishna says, “He who has no fear is dear to me.”
But what is fear? At the root of all fear is one: that I might be annihilated; that death may end me. That’s the fear behind every fear—whether of illness or of sorrow; death is at the base.
As long as one doesn’t peek beyond the ego and the senses, death will appear—because in the world known by the senses, death is. In the world you see with the eyes, death is real there—more real than life; life is fleeting. A flower no sooner blooms than it begins to wither. A child no sooner is born than he begins to die. Everything is changing—change means death is happening every moment. In the sensory world, death is moment to moment. There, death is fact; life is the surprise. Life is suspicious there.
That’s why materialists say there is no life—everything is matter. Death is so pervasive—what life are you talking about? Life is only your dream; here everything is death.
In a way, they are right. In the outer world, life doesn’t show; even a glimpse, when it appears, seems only to reveal death—that life’s line flashes merely to make death known. All around is death.
Matter means mortality. And through the senses, nothing but matter can be known. Hence fear grips. The inner nectar—which never dies—also feels fear seeing death everywhere. Surrounded by death, a delusion arises that I too will die.
But the one who goes beyond the senses and looks within sees: the one sitting here never dies. He has never died; he cannot die. When the sense of the deathless arises, only then does fear cease. Understand the distinctions.
Those you call fearless are not the point here. We know two kinds of people: timid, cowardly; and fearless, brave. Abhaya—fearlessness—is a third thing. The one you call “brave” also feels fear but doesn’t run; the coward also feels fear and runs. The difference is: both feel fear; the coward flees, the brave stands firm.
Fearlessness means one who does not feel fear at all. You cannot call him brave—bravery doesn’t apply. When there is no fear, what is bravery? If someone never feels fear, what is the value of his “courage”? You cannot call Mahavira brave.
Abhaya—fearlessness—means both bravery and cowardice have disappeared. This person knows that death does not happen.
So Krishna says, that devotee is dear to me who has had some glimpse of the deathless—who is moving beyond fear.
“And the man who is without desire, who is pure within and without, skillful—meaning, who has completed what he came for—unbiased, freed from sorrows; a renouncer of all undertakings—such a devotee is dear to me.”
Without desire...
One who has understood the futility of cravings, who no longer asks, “I want this.” Whatever comes, he says, “This is precisely my wish.” What doesn’t come—no worry, no desire.
As for us, our attention remains on what we don’t have. What we have—we forget. Remember? What you have, you forget; what you don’t have, you remember. And only until you don’t have it do you remember it.
The car you want—until you buy it, it’s with you. The day you buy it and sit in it, it’s no longer with you—you forget. Now other cars catch your eye—the ones others have.
The house you live in—you don’t see it. Others see it—the ones sitting on the footpath. They think, “What a house! If only we were inside—what bliss we’d feel!” And they never see the state of the one inside—he’s not enjoying either. He is troubled in his own way. He doesn’t want to live in that house—he’s searching for another.
We think about what isn’t. What is—we forget. What isn’t—gives us sorrow. What is—gives no joy.
I’ve heard: a man was buying bananas at a vegetable shop. He asked the price. “One rupee a dozen,” said the seller. The man said, “What a robbery! The shop across sells the same bananas for eight annas a dozen.” The seller said, “Then please buy there.” The man replied, “But today his bananas are finished.” The seller said, “When mine are finished, I sell for four annas a dozen! When I have none, I sell at four annas. He’s robbing you—eight annas a dozen!”
In this world we haggle over what isn’t as well. We calculate over what isn’t. People stake their lives on what isn’t—while what is gets forgotten.
Desire means: seeking what isn’t. Desirelessness means: contentment with what is.
Pure within and without...
Who is pure within and without? The one who is the same inside and out. If inside is one thing and outside another, that is impurity.
What does “pure” mean? When do you call water pure? When there is nothing in it but water. When is milk pure? When there is only milk—nothing else. Even if you mix pure water with pure milk, both become impure.
It’s delightful: both were pure—shouldn’t they become doubly pure? But mix pure water with pure milk—both are impure now. Neither water is pure nor milk. Why? A foreign element—heterogeneous admixture—creates impurity. When milk was milk—just milk, one-flavored—only milk within and without, it was pure. When water was the same, it was pure. Now neither remains what it was; twoness has arisen—conflict is born.
When you are the same within and without—water-water, milk-milk—whatever you are, however you are—good or bad is not the issue—if you are the same inside and out, you are pure. When you are double—two persons within—both become impure. Harmony of inner and outer is purity.
Krishna says, one who is pure within and without—who is one—such a one is dear to me.
Because when the inner conflict ends, you are ready to receive the nondual. As you are, so will you unite. If you are in duality, you cannot unite with the nondual. Like unites with like. Hence inner-outer sameness!
If you are a thief, don’t worry—even a thief can realize the divine—but be the same within and without! That’s the difficulty—a thief cannot be the same inside and out, else theft won’t work. If he declares, “I am a thief,” theft ends immediately.
I’ve heard: A king visited his prison on his birthday to distribute sweets. Every prisoner said, “I’m innocent, Your Majesty! I was framed. The charge was false, witnesses were false. Great injustice—free me.” Everyone said the same.
The last prisoner—the king asked, “What about you? Are you also pure? Innocent?”
He said, “No, Majesty, I am a thief; I committed theft. My trial was fair. The witnesses testified correctly. The court’s verdict was just. The punishment fits my crime.”
The king told his men, “Throw this crook out of the jail immediately.”
All the prisoners cried, “What injustice! He himself says he’s a thief and deserving of punishment; and we shout we’re innocent, and you free the guilty one!”
The king said, “There’s a reason. If we don’t remove this devil, he’ll corrupt you innocent souls.”
When even a thief becomes this open and simply says it—inner equals outer—then to save you “innocent” souls, God immediately removes him from this world—otherwise he’ll corrupt you. Such a devil is not allowed to linger here.
What you are is not the question. If you become single-flavored and express yourself as you are, then there is no place for you in this world—your place is in God’s heart.
“Skillful—who has completed the work he came for...”
This is what I’ve been saying: each person has come to descend into desires and learn their futility; to crave and know it’s poison; to enter the world and see it is fire. If you cannot arrive at this understanding, you are not skillful. Whoever becomes skillful in this way is dear to the divine.
“Impartial, free from all sorrows, a renouncer of all undertakings—my devotee is dear to me.”
Undertaking means the very point where desire begins. If desire is to be dropped, it cannot be dropped in the middle or at the end; it must be dropped at the start.
You pass a house and it looks very beautiful. You are not yet aware that a desire is being born; you may think you’re an aesthete, appreciating beauty—this is the beginning. When a house appears beautiful, in a little while another line will arise: “When will it become mine?”
Beginnings are always hidden; you don’t notice. You say, “A woman is passing—how beautiful!” You think it’s because you are an artist, a connoisseur. But as soon as you say “How beautiful,” look closely—another desire is concealed: “How can she become available to me?”
This is the beginning. If you are not alert at the beginning, desire will grab you. Hence, “renouncer of all beginnings.” One who recognizes wherever the mischief starts and lets it go right there. If it’s not dropped there, it cannot be dropped in the middle. You cannot turn back midcourse.
Some things, once released, cannot be recalled—like an arrow. As long as the arrow is on the string, you can recall it.
Beginning means where the arrow leaves the bow.
He who renounces all beginnings is dear to the divine.
Let us pause for five minutes. Don’t get up midway. We’ll do kirtan and then disperse.